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From: Matt Breton <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: AmerInd Exp. Comments Obj.
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:45:37 -0600
On 10/25/98 21:23:14 you wrote:

>>>>>>>KIVA OF LIGHTNING / Objective
>---------------------------------------------------------
> Maybe you don't want to say anytime during a run challenges may be played.
>Otherwise you might have some wiseguy dropping a challenge while your facing
>one.

To which the answer would be ... so? The newly-played Challenge goes face-down
on top of the Challenge stack; it's not like it pops up in combat.

>How bout during a run challenges may be played before a challenge is revealed.

Equally murky: Could I add a Challenge after the first Challenge was revealed and
defeated? (That Challenge, after, was revealed; it's now "after a Challenge has been
revealed...")

Now, there *is* a (possibly) clearer wording -- between Challenges, you may add Runners
or Challenges; however, it was my intention with this card that it would help alleviate
some
of the (many) discard effects in AEX. So, if I had a handful of Challenges, and slammed
into
a Quetzlcouatl, I could do something with those cards besides trash them.

>And to clarify the max 6 runners you could say " turn runners to add to the
>shadowruning team (max. 6 runners may participate in the run) My first
>impression was that you could keep adding runners after your runners were
>trashed. So you could send 6 runners and when 1 crooked send in a re-
>enforcement. Thats to powerful and i don't think thats what was intended.

That, actually, was the original intention behind Red Widow and the Rapier. And it
*is* a powerful effect -- but the Objective's only worth 15 Rep, and may not be there for
the taking when you're finally ready for it. And since you may be running through seven
or eight Challenges in a row, you may end up needing all those Runners, too.

The maximum number of Runners may vary from time to time (one of my many net.cards is a
special
that limits the number of Runners you can send on a run; Gabe has a similar card). So
listing a
specific number of Runners may be misleading.

>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>Land of the long Sun
>Reputation Award: 15.
>BONUS: When this Objective is scored, all other Objectives are revealed (if a
>player does not have a ready Objective, turn over the top card of his Objective pile).
Each
>player may then search his draw pile for one Challenge to play on each revealed
>Objective.<<<<<<
>------------------------------
> Maybe add "up to the max. Challenges allowed" at the end there.

Already hit on this, believe it or not.

>------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SUMMER OF THE WOLVES / Objective
>Reputation Award: 40. Owner must choose a type of Challenge (Awakened,
>Electrical, etc.) when Summer of the Wolves is revealed. This type of Challenge may
not be
>sleazed.
> REQUIREMENT: Face down Howling Wolf Pack: 6/8 (2¥: +1/+1 until the end of
>shadowrun).
><<<<<<<<<<<<
>----------------------------
> Clarify the requirment. Instead of "Face down" say defeat and who can
pump
>the 2¥ ? Anyone or just the owner?

Same as any Challenge: just the owner. (You can't pump my Security Mage; why should you
be able to pump my Wolves?)

>------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>THE PASSING OF WINTER / Objective
>Reputation Award: 30.
>Treat all Runners on shadowrunning team as if they only had the basic level in
>each of their Skills..........<<<<<<<<<
>----------------
> Say 1 skill level in each of there skills instead of basic. Tiz a little
>easier to understand.

The RBT lists 'basic level' as being equal to Skill-1; and 'enhanced' for anything over
one (but generally meaning 2). No, the terms aren't used often; part of the joys of
expansions is to bring the underused facets of the game back into the light, let them
shine.

>
> Just a few recomondations i had. I like what i have seen on the set so
>far. Although i have only seen the obj.

I mentioned it in another post: I should have an alphabetized list on my site by tomorrow
morning. I'll post the URL when it's ready.


- Matt

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