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From: Donald Arganbright <jayden63@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: New Thread - What is broken/what needs revising?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:19:47 PST
Hoi,

>With the potential of new net expansions on the horizons, if you >were
able to change something about the game, what would it be? I >am not
looking for such things as 'make <fill-in a name here> >stronger', but
more along the lines of game mechanics. What have >you seen in other
card games that you would like to see in this >game? Or what aspect of
the game do you feel needs expanding? For >me, I would like to (have)
see(n) two attack values for runners : >one based on hand-to-hand
weapons and the other based on weaponry. >How different decks would
appear if Stomper could only specialize in >pistols while someone like
Lord Torgo, being a ganger, specialized >in knives.
>
>I have some others, but I'll wait and see what others have to say
>first.
>>>>>>>Axlrose - ...<<<<<

Some of the stuff that I would really like to see changed go as follows.

- Limit the use of Media Chick. Right now it has been stated that she
was originally going to be limited to 3¥ when 2 run comes around. I can
live with that.
- Rework Torgo's special ability. Its entirly too tough as it is right
now. I like the idea of 1AP damage per nuyen spent, spread out any way
you choose.
- Alternitive methods of winning other than rep gathering. It just
doesn't make sence for the Lone Star to go around gathering rep. I like
the AEX idea of the Kivas for winning, but I think some other methods
should be available... it allows for completely new stradiges.
- Indirect Fire. Needs lots of work to make it a functioning part of
the game. I'm not sure how to go about doing this, but more weapons
with its trait would be nice.
- Clarification on what it sleazing vs. trashing a challenge on gear
cards and special abilities. It has been proposed that in second run
that all text on gear and special abilities will read trash challenge
and not sleaze. This will clear up lots of confusion and I think that
they should go with it.
- Silenced damage. This needs alot of work. As it is right now the
only way you can do this is with putting silencers on guns. Thats it.
The way to fix this is to give runners the ability of silenced melee
damage or allow more than just 4 silencers in a deck. There may be
other methods and they will be happily entertained.
- Melee damge and ranged damage. I don't like the fact that a gun adds
to the runners current attack value. That attack value is ROUGHLY based
on the muscle of the runner... something that firing a gun has nothing
to do with. I think that a solution would be to double the attack value
of all guns and just say that if you are using a gun that is the value
that you would use. some examples would be.

Ares Preditor - 6
Defiance Shotgun - 8
Vindacatior minigun - 8 + 6 burst
HK227 - 6 + 4 burst
Panther assault - 12 + 18 trashed

These sort of values would replace the users attack value, after all it
is the gun doing the work. I would leave melee weapons the same...
after all they do use the users muscle for their effectiveness. I can
see how stomper would do more damage with a katana than Foxy Roxy with a
katana... but if they both have Ares Preditors and are shooting across
the room, the damage should be the same.

- fame. I really like fame, I think it is a cool thing... I just think
it sucks that all of the runners have weak bodyies, and are easy to kill
off... where are the Troll thrash rock bands and the like. Also I would
like to see that if you refresh your hand you still get the bonus fame
nuyen added to your cred stick. What happens here... your rockers take
the night off because you refresh your hand... I don't think so. On the
"I'm being real picky here and don't give a damn" wave length is it fair
that 1 guy with no rockers only has to sacrafice 4¥ to refresh his hand
while the guy who has spent 9¥ on three thrashes sacrafices 7¥ to
refresh his hand... whats fair about that... Rockers actually cost you
more money... from a certain point of view.

Anyway... these are just a few things that bug me about the game... some
are pointless and nit-picky... but I think others have real merrit.

*** Knife Sharpens on Stone... Man Sharpens on Man ***
*** - Tao ***

Jayden Stormwalker
Donald Arganbright


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