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From: Donald Arganbright <jayden63@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Vampire Cards and Evil things
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:50:19 PST
Hoi,

>Here are some ideas regarding Vampires etc:

>The Great Hunt
>Objective
>Worthy of 25 points
>May only be played once each game. Vampires may not try to run this
>objective. Once a player tries to run this objective, all Vampires >are
untapped and fully healed.
>Requirement - defeating two vampires, 6/9 each. Any player may turn
>any vampire he controls to attack with it any runner present. If The
>Great Hunt is successful, all vampires are fragged, and vampires may
>no longer enter the game.

I like the concept, but the wording needs a little work. IT is a little
confusing.

Howzabout -
Name - The Great Hunt
Type - Objective - Unique
Rep - 10
Restrictions - No vampire runners may run against The Great Hunt
Text - If The Great Hunt has appeared once before. Frag this card.
When a shadowrun is declared against The Great Hunt all vampires in play
are instantly fully healed and unturned.
Requirments - Any player may turn any number of vampires to engage
shadowrunning team in runner vs. runner combat.
Bonus - Frag all vampires in play. Vampires can no longer enter play.

Ok... So maybe thats not much better. I lowered the rep becuase the
bonus of the objective more than makes up for it. I took out the fight
two vampire requirements because I think it would be better if the blood
suckers had to fight for their own lives.

>A strike at heart
>Special
>Cost 4¥
>Turn an unturned runner and target a vampire. If runner has 2 >stealth
OR runner's threat rating is higher then the vampire's, the >vampire is
fragged.

I like this one :)

>Wooden Stick
>Gear/Weapon
>Cost 1¥
>User gains +2/+0 when fighting vampires.

Its a good card as well :)

>Bloodlust
>Stinger
>Cost 2¥
>Playable on a runner. Runner gains +4/+0 until end of turn, and his
>defence is considered 2 or his current defence, whichever the lower.

Needs a different name... AEX has something by the same name. I like
the bonus and disadvantage... well thought out.

>Lychentrophy
>Gear/Spell
>Cost 3¥
>Targets a mage with at least 2 sorcery. Trash gear, turn the mage and
>target another runner. Choose wolf, bear, tiger or ant. Spell >becomes
a Gear/Misc. on target runner that reads apply the following >(all
triggered once each turn and "for the duration of one combat"):
>wolf - +1/+2 and stamina, bear - +3/+0 and biotech, tiger - +2/+1 and
>guard, ant - +0/-3 and anti-social.

A little confusing on this one as well. Trash whos gear? The mages or
the runner being targeted. Does the spell get trashed as well? It
needs a little clarification.

>Refusal
>Stinger
>Cost X¥
>Apply 2 plus x equal to the cost of a stinger just played. Ignore the
>effect of the stinger; its owner still loses neoyen from his pool
>equal to the stinger's cost. Refusal may target another refusal.

Perhaps rewording of...

Name - Refusal
Type - Stinger
Cost - X+2¥
Text - Cancel stinger just played where X is the deployment cost of the
stinger.

All nuyens spent on stingers get payed for anyway... even if the card
gets LOTI'd and doesn't happen... So I felt that part wasn't nessicary.
Over all good counter card. :)

>Refreshments
>Stinger
>Cost 2¥
>Unturn a turned non-vampire runner you control.

Ok :)

>K'rob
>Human Agent
>Cost 9/2¥
>8/11
>Stealth 2, Athlecs 2, Technical 1, Social 1, Piloting 1
>Prime Runner. Anti-Social. K'rob may only go on shadowruns with no
>other runners.

I like the concept of the card and while he does have a good assortment
of skills and a respectable attack ratio, he would have a hard time
getting through alot of challenges. With no streetwise, firearms,
sorcery, and demolitions... its going to be very rough sleazing... With
no built-in armor or stamina, he will get hurt and then not be able to
fight though another challenge. Becuase he can only go shadowrunning
alone I would drop his upkeep a little. However I can't really come up
with a "fix" at the moment.

I like your card suggestions and don't recognize your name off the top
of my head, so if your new welcome aboard. :)


*** Knife Sharpens on Stone... Man Sharpens on Man ***
*** - Tao ***

Jayden Stormwalker
Donald Arganbright


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