From:	Matb <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:	Re: Vampire Cards and Evil things
Date:	Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:54:38 -0800

Donald Arganbright wrote (after Shai'ichi did the same thing):

> >The Great Hunt
> >Objective
> >Worthy of 25 points
> >May only be played once each game. Vampires may not try to run this
> >objective. Once a player tries to run this objective, all Vampires =

> >are untapped and fully healed.
> >Requirement - defeating two vampires, 6/9 each. Any player may turn
> >any vampire he controls to attack with it any runner present. If The
> >Great Hunt is successful, all vampires are fragged, and vampires may
> >no longer enter the game.

> I like the concept, but the wording needs a little work. IT is a =

> little confusing.

> Howzabout -
> Name - The Great Hunt
> Type - Objective - Unique
> Rep - 10
> Restrictions - No vampire runners may run against The Great Hunt
> Text - If The Great Hunt has appeared once before. Frag this card.

> When a shadowrun is declared against The Great Hunt all vampires in =

> play are instantly fully healed and unturned.

This part is insanely abusive if you're running a Vampire deck: Just
send along Ye Minion Static (or, from AEX, Cobarde) to begin the run. =

Doesn't matter if he dies or not; you're not really trying to score the
run. While (in a sense) it does provide its own drawback, most of the
Vampire Runners are stronger than other Runners in the game - so all you
need to survive is more Vampires.

> Requirments - Any player may turn any number of vampires to engage
> shadowrunning team in runner vs. runner combat.
> Bonus - Frag all vampires in play. Vampires can no longer enter play.

And this bonus is a little - pardon the pun - stiff. Kinda like making
a lockdown-against-deckers run: Wow. Can't play a single card in my
deck anymore. Doesn't matter if the Objective is worth only ten Rep, or
negative twenty, or whatever; you don't have a game anymore.

*Sigh*. It's "unturn", not "untap"; "be deployed", not
"enter play". =

But that's what they pay me the big money for...

> >Bloodlust
> >Stinger
> >Cost 2¥
> >Playable on a runner. Runner gains +4/+0 until end of turn, and his
> >defence is considered 2 or his current defence, whichever the lower.
=

> Needs a different name... AEX has something by the same name. I like
> the bonus and disadvantage... well thought out.

This strikes me as being a lot too close to the Magic (the Gathering)
Blood Lust card. All it needs is the red mana.


- Matt