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Message no. 1
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:16:41 +1000
Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
the arcology?

How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
adepts?

How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

Thanks

GreyWolf
Message no. 2
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:28:17 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/99 1:16:05 AM, sparrow@***.net.au writes:

>How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
>the arcology?

Unknown...but there are a few...they are all blues as far as I can
tell.

>
>How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

The original magical defense errected by Renraku should still be up.
So some elementals and such. But if I recall, there is no ward around the
Arc. There is a high background count in some areas...due to the killings,
the experimentations, etc..

>Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
>adepts?

Lord yes. Awakened critters were let loose from the zoos and labs
and roam the lower levels. There's a couple floors with some kind of fog
that is a form of Astral bacteria that eats any living tissue.

>How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
>magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

Who knows. depends on where you are. I'd say there's a lower chance
over all...but still a good chance. Sides, I'd be more worried about the
constructs at this point.

Tay-Dor
Message no. 3
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
> Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

Statistics break down as far as megacorps, militaries and shadowrunners
are concerned. Such people go looking for magickers, so they tend to
find them. IMO, that'd make the occurrence of magickers between 5 and
10 times higher in those kinds of groups.

Even if you go for the base 1% magically active people, that's still
over 1,000 magickers in the arc. Using my figures, make it between 5
and 10k. And most of them will be security people or involved in
research.

On the other hand, Deus' knocked off a lot of the mages when he took
over.

> How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
the arcology?

Stats not given. 1 to 10 or 20 is probably a good magical/non-magical
ratio to use for the blues. Make it 1 in 50 or 100 for the greens.

> How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

Not common. Not really rare either, though. Deus has enough magickers
working for him to have heaps of wards, hermetic circles and the like.
What kind of thing are you thinking of?

> Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
adepts?

Yes, although again, details aren't given. Renraku had a zoo, I
believe, with certain paranormals in it, and more dangerous ones were
held in experimental labs (probably - they're turning up in the arc, so
they must have been SOMEWHERE).

> How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)
> Thanks
>
> GreyWolf

You can't really quantify it. There would be lots of wards and the like
around the exterior of the arc, as these are part of the defences that
went into place upon the lockdown. There were probably a lot of wards
around before that, too, what with all the research and experimentation
going on in there.

You can almost guarantee Deus has been having his pet mages keep the
wards active. Plus I'm sure he's had them place new ones in any
sensitive areas (the physical location/s of the computer hardware he
"lives" in, the reactor levels, possibly the zombie and experimentation
rooms etc.).

Basically, anything reasonable and somethings that are unreasonable you
can expect to bump into in there.

*Doc' talks to his employers about having the toilets warded to prevent
unwanted astral spectators...*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 4
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 11:55:51 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Aaron Binns."
] Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
] very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
] Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
] things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

READ IT NOW!!! :) Seriously, though, it's thin. Give it the
afternoon it deserves.

] How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
] the arcology?

I'd say no greens are mages. Even if there were non-combatic shamans
or mages, Deus' conditioning would easily turn them into servants, and
why would Deus waste magical talent? All magicians would be Blues,
IMO, except the undetected ones, or the ones in the Resistance.

] How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

As common as it is outside, except for the ever-present background
count making it a bit harder...I dunno...

] Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
] adepts?

Yep. Paranormals, and Renraku and Deus were experimenting with
HMHVV. So there's vampires and ghouls in there as well (and any
vampire variants too, natch).

] How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
] magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

As others have said, I'd say mostly drones, but the leeches are
everywhere sensitive, and they can be considered magical obstructions,
even if they aren't magical per se. I'd say that if they brought Deus'
fire down upon them, the forces they'd face would include magicians.

] Thanks

I could be waaaay off-base here, so get yer salt-shaker out, and
decide for yourself when you read the book.

-Murder of One
Message no. 5
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:14:39 CST
>In a message dated 7/9/99 1:16:05 AM, sparrow@***.net.au writes:
>
> >How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
> >the arcology?
>
> Unknown...but there are a few...they are all blues as far as I can
>tell.

There is at least one shaman among the Resistance. Alia Black Fox I believe
(or is she a mage..)


> >Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
> >adepts?
>
> Lord yes. Awakened critters were let loose from the zoos and labs
>and roam the lower levels. There's a couple floors with some kind of fog
>that is a form of Astral bacteria that eats any living tissue.
>

Actually, the fog is an acid/DMSO cocktail.

> >How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
> >magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)
>
> Who knows. depends on where you are. I'd say there's a lower chance
>over all...but still a good chance. Sides, I'd be more worried about the
>constructs at this point.

Yep, the constructs should be enough.

>
>Tay-Dor

Geoff Haacke
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Message no. 6
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 18:16:41 +1000
Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
the arcology?

How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
adepts?

How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

Thanks

GreyWolf
Message no. 7
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:28:17 EDT
In a message dated 7/9/99 1:16:05 AM, sparrow@***.net.au writes:

>How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
>the arcology?

Unknown...but there are a few...they are all blues as far as I can
tell.

>
>How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

The original magical defense errected by Renraku should still be up.
So some elementals and such. But if I recall, there is no ward around the
Arc. There is a high background count in some areas...due to the killings,
the experimentations, etc..

>Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
>adepts?

Lord yes. Awakened critters were let loose from the zoos and labs
and roam the lower levels. There's a couple floors with some kind of fog
that is a form of Astral bacteria that eats any living tissue.

>How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
>magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

Who knows. depends on where you are. I'd say there's a lower chance
over all...but still a good chance. Sides, I'd be more worried about the
constructs at this point.

Tay-Dor
Message no. 8
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
> Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

Statistics break down as far as megacorps, militaries and shadowrunners
are concerned. Such people go looking for magickers, so they tend to
find them. IMO, that'd make the occurrence of magickers between 5 and
10 times higher in those kinds of groups.

Even if you go for the base 1% magically active people, that's still
over 1,000 magickers in the arc. Using my figures, make it between 5
and 10k. And most of them will be security people or involved in
research.

On the other hand, Deus' knocked off a lot of the mages when he took
over.

> How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
the arcology?

Stats not given. 1 to 10 or 20 is probably a good magical/non-magical
ratio to use for the blues. Make it 1 in 50 or 100 for the greens.

> How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

Not common. Not really rare either, though. Deus has enough magickers
working for him to have heaps of wards, hermetic circles and the like.
What kind of thing are you thinking of?

> Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
adepts?

Yes, although again, details aren't given. Renraku had a zoo, I
believe, with certain paranormals in it, and more dangerous ones were
held in experimental labs (probably - they're turning up in the arc, so
they must have been SOMEWHERE).

> How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)
> Thanks
>
> GreyWolf

You can't really quantify it. There would be lots of wards and the like
around the exterior of the arc, as these are part of the defences that
went into place upon the lockdown. There were probably a lot of wards
around before that, too, what with all the research and experimentation
going on in there.

You can almost guarantee Deus has been having his pet mages keep the
wards active. Plus I'm sure he's had them place new ones in any
sensitive areas (the physical location/s of the computer hardware he
"lives" in, the reactor levels, possibly the zombie and experimentation
rooms etc.).

Basically, anything reasonable and somethings that are unreasonable you
can expect to bump into in there.

*Doc' talks to his employers about having the toilets warded to prevent
unwanted astral spectators...*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 9
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 11:55:51 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Aaron Binns."
] Using the generalists view.. statistically speaking there should be
] very few mages among the trapped inhabitants of the Renraku Seattle
] Arcology. Ive only just gotten the RA:S sourcebook, but there are
] things i need to know before I get time to read it back to back.

READ IT NOW!!! :) Seriously, though, it's thin. Give it the
afternoon it deserves.

] How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
] the arcology?

I'd say no greens are mages. Even if there were non-combatic shamans
or mages, Deus' conditioning would easily turn them into servants, and
why would Deus waste magical talent? All magicians would be Blues,
IMO, except the undetected ones, or the ones in the Resistance.

] How common is magical phenomenon in the arcology?

As common as it is outside, except for the ever-present background
count making it a bit harder...I dunno...

] Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
] adepts?

Yep. Paranormals, and Renraku and Deus were experimenting with
HMHVV. So there's vampires and ghouls in there as well (and any
vampire variants too, natch).

] How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
] magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)

As others have said, I'd say mostly drones, but the leeches are
everywhere sensitive, and they can be considered magical obstructions,
even if they aren't magical per se. I'd say that if they brought Deus'
fire down upon them, the forces they'd face would include magicians.

] Thanks

I could be waaaay off-base here, so get yer salt-shaker out, and
decide for yourself when you read the book.

-Murder of One
Message no. 10
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: magical activity inside the arc.
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 14:14:39 CST
>In a message dated 7/9/99 1:16:05 AM, sparrow@***.net.au writes:
>
> >How many mages, shamans and adepts are among the blues and greens in
> >the arcology?
>
> Unknown...but there are a few...they are all blues as far as I can
>tell.

There is at least one shaman among the Resistance. Alia Black Fox I believe
(or is she a mage..)


> >Are there any awakened beings other than the above mages, shamans and
> >adepts?
>
> Lord yes. Awakened critters were let loose from the zoos and labs
>and roam the lower levels. There's a couple floors with some kind of fog
>that is a form of Astral bacteria that eats any living tissue.
>

Actually, the fog is an acid/DMSO cocktail.

> >How often would a shadowrunning group penetrating the arc run into
> >magical obstructions (or whatever kind?)
>
> Who knows. depends on where you are. I'd say there's a lower chance
>over all...but still a good chance. Sides, I'd be more worried about the
>constructs at this point.

Yep, the constructs should be enough.

>
>Tay-Dor

Geoff Haacke
"if you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."


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