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Message no. 1
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:36:03 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to CEvans9159@***.com."
]
] In a message dated 6/22/99 1:28:45 AM, docwagon101@*****.com writes:
]
] >Agreeable? Problematic?
]
] Ah well...betaware and cultured bioware makes more sence. I can't
] see any Mage really being forced to undergo the knife...at least I
don't see
] the military forcing mages...a rare and valuable commodity...to screw with
] their ability to do magic.
]
] Tay-Dor

You join the military, you do what they want. Besides, the military
wouldn't have any problem with pressuring the mage in different ways
until they did it voluntarily.

-Murder of One
Message no. 2
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, Cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:43:04 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
] >I see it as a military thing. You join up, you get the 'ware, whether
] >you like it or not. They've both only got the bare essentials
] >(cybereyes with sensory toys, internal airtanks for when you're caught
] >short, smartlinks for obvious reasons and trauma dampers to keep them
] >going). Oops - forgot to mention all cyber is betaware, all bio is
] >cultured. So for those two, it's less that a point of essence loss in
] >total.
] >
] >Agreeable? Problematic?
]
] Problematic. Refer to the novel (Hunter scratches his head as he tries
] to remember) Just Compensation. In there it refers to a mage with
] glasses. A SF mage with glasses as I recall.

There's your answer there...just don't refer to that novel!
Seriously though, flavour elements like that are something that vary
from author to author. If it ain't written in a Shadowrun book, the
authors have to make it up, and sometimes the results contradict.
If all else fails, why couldn't the choice have been voluntary? That
solves the problem.

-Murder of One
Message no. 3
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:31:43 EDT
In a message dated 6/22/99 7:47:39 AM, iscottw@*****.nb.ca writes:

> You join the military, you do what they want. Besides, the military
>wouldn't have any problem with pressuring the mage in different ways
>until they did it voluntarily.

Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages seem so
eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of lattitude due to
their valuable talents.

Tay-Dor
Message no. 4
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:07:59 CST
> Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
>either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages seem so
>eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of lattitude due to
>their valuable talents.

They do if they are in the military. Ares at least has a few combat mages
with cyber and a high initiate rating. A mage may just consider some cyber
too useful to be without.

>
>Tay-Dor
>
>


Geoff Haacke
"if you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."


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Message no. 5
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages
seem so eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of
lattitude due to their valuable talents.
>
> They do if they are in the military. Ares at least has a few combat
mages with cyber and a high initiate rating. A mage may just consider
some cyber too useful to be without.

That's point one. Point two is that covert ops and other special forces
work is voluntary (I believe). If you want in, you do what they tell
you to. The military doesn't make mages get cyber normally - but I'm
sure they'd have enough volunteers for special forces that they can
say, "Right, standard equipment includes cyber and bio, even for magickers."
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 6
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:36:03 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to CEvans9159@***.com."
]
] In a message dated 6/22/99 1:28:45 AM, docwagon101@*****.com writes:
]
] >Agreeable? Problematic?
]
] Ah well...betaware and cultured bioware makes more sence. I can't
] see any Mage really being forced to undergo the knife...at least I
don't see
] the military forcing mages...a rare and valuable commodity...to screw with
] their ability to do magic.
]
] Tay-Dor

You join the military, you do what they want. Besides, the military
wouldn't have any problem with pressuring the mage in different ways
until they did it voluntarily.

-Murder of One
Message no. 7
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, Cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:43:04 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
] >I see it as a military thing. You join up, you get the 'ware, whether
] >you like it or not. They've both only got the bare essentials
] >(cybereyes with sensory toys, internal airtanks for when you're caught
] >short, smartlinks for obvious reasons and trauma dampers to keep them
] >going). Oops - forgot to mention all cyber is betaware, all bio is
] >cultured. So for those two, it's less that a point of essence loss in
] >total.
] >
] >Agreeable? Problematic?
]
] Problematic. Refer to the novel (Hunter scratches his head as he tries
] to remember) Just Compensation. In there it refers to a mage with
] glasses. A SF mage with glasses as I recall.

There's your answer there...just don't refer to that novel!
Seriously though, flavour elements like that are something that vary
from author to author. If it ain't written in a Shadowrun book, the
authors have to make it up, and sometimes the results contradict.
If all else fails, why couldn't the choice have been voluntary? That
solves the problem.

-Murder of One
Message no. 8
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:31:43 EDT
In a message dated 6/22/99 7:47:39 AM, iscottw@*****.nb.ca writes:

> You join the military, you do what they want. Besides, the military
>wouldn't have any problem with pressuring the mage in different ways
>until they did it voluntarily.

Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages seem so
eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of lattitude due to
their valuable talents.

Tay-Dor
Message no. 9
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:07:59 CST
> Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
>either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages seem so
>eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of lattitude due to
>their valuable talents.

They do if they are in the military. Ares at least has a few combat mages
with cyber and a high initiate rating. A mage may just consider some cyber
too useful to be without.

>
>Tay-Dor
>
>


Geoff Haacke
"if you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."


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Message no. 10
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Mages, cyberware (was: Characters)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > Hell...CORPS don't tell mages what to do, no way the military is
either. Mages are a RARE and VALUABLE commodity. The reason mages
seem so eccentric in SR is because they are given a fair bit of
lattitude due to their valuable talents.
>
> They do if they are in the military. Ares at least has a few combat
mages with cyber and a high initiate rating. A mage may just consider
some cyber too useful to be without.

That's point one. Point two is that covert ops and other special forces
work is voluntary (I believe). If you want in, you do what they tell
you to. The military doesn't make mages get cyber normally - but I'm
sure they'd have enough volunteers for special forces that they can
say, "Right, standard equipment includes cyber and bio, even for magickers."
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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