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Message no. 1
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
threads again. Strago's option will become his short story in all
likelihood and we haven't had any more suggestions, so here are the two
options:

Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.

Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.

So basically, the overall concept of the second option is an expansion
of the first, although the details would likely be quite different.

Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
you'd prefer to do.

If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
concept.

Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
==Doc'
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Message no. 2
From: noone youknow masquerades@****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:31:46 -0700
|Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS
military
|team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in
to rescue
|Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to
rescue a
|friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail
and they
|chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.


ok, back after some really bad email screw-ups so i have missed
a lot and the archives are sometimes quite hard to follow so
with not really much info and just reading the posts from this
evening i vote for the 3-thread option.



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Message no. 3
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:01:09 -0400
Rand Ratinac wrote:

> <SNIP>
> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
> you'd prefer to do.
>
> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>

OK, I volunteer to collect the votes and let Doc know when the weekend is
over. I'd LOVE to get all the votes in by Sunday. By my calendar, that
gives two (2) days (approximately) to do it. If it's Friday night, well, if
it's in by Monday I won't beat you. OK? ;^)

> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
> ==> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
>
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Message no. 4
From: Mockingbird mockingbird@*********.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:05:52 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com>
To: <srfanfic@*********.org>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 2:10 AM
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


> Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
> team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
> Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
> chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.
>

I vote for three.

Mockingbird
Message no. 5
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:20:02 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
] Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
] to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
] friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
] members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.

Two! That's my preference.

-Murder of One
Message no. 6
From: Ayla Renee ReneeKrena@********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:44:58 -0500
I vote for 3 as well...

Noone here really knows me, but my name is Renee, and my freinds call me
Ayla. I'v finished one novel, and am currently working on one to propose for
TSR (AD&D) But love Shadowrun and have played it for several years. I'm
slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll have
to excuse me, I just subscribed yesterday and have missed alot. Archives are
VERY Hard to follow.



-----Original Message-----
From: Strago <strago@***.com>
To: srfanfic@*********.org <srfanfic@*********.org>
Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


>Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
>> <SNIP>
>> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
>> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
>> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
>> you'd prefer to do.
>>
>> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
>> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
>> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
>> concept.
>>
>
>OK, I volunteer to collect the votes and let Doc know when the weekend is
>over. I'd LOVE to get all the votes in by Sunday. By my calendar, that
>gives two (2) days (approximately) to do it. If it's Friday night, well, if
>it's in by Monday I won't beat you. OK? ;^)
>
>> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
>> ==>> Doc'
>> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
>>
>> .sig Sauer
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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Message no. 7
From: Mockingbird mockingbird@*********.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:10:43 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Ayla Renee <ReneeKrena@********.net>
To: <srfanfic@*********.org>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


> I vote for 3 as well...
>
> Noone here really knows me, but my name is Renee, and my freinds call me
> Ayla. I'v finished one novel, and am currently working on one to propose
for
> TSR (AD&D) But love Shadowrun and have played it for several years. I'm
> slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
> Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
> run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll
have
> to excuse me, I just subscribed yesterday and have missed alot. Archives
are
> VERY Hard to follow.
>
>

Hi,
I know this isn't pointed at me, but I've got a second, so here goes.
The current plan is to have an anthology where all the short stories are
tied together by between 2 and 3 threads. For example, let's say I am
writing about a group that gets dropped into the Labrynth. While in there
my characters hear a gun fight between two groups. They hear one of the
members of the fight call out to a buddy, using the name of one of the
shadowrunners. I have written nothing above a one sentence description
about the core threads, yet it still runs through my story. Does this make
more sense?

Mockingbird
Message no. 8
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:06:30 CST
>From: "Ayla Renee" <ReneeKrena@********.net>
<SNIPPAGE>
>slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
>Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
>run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll have

I believe that this will actually be a "braided novel" - basically, an
anthology with an underlying plot/theme. According to Michael Stackpole (a
damn fine author - read his stuff if you get the chance) in the afterword
for "Wolf and Raven", a "braided novel" sell better than an anthology.
To
me, it's a matter of semantics, but what the hey?

Geoff Haacke
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Message no. 9
From: Snake Eyes snake.eyes@********.att.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:04:34 -0700
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
>Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
>to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
>friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
>members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.
>
>Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
>team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
>Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
>friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
>chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.

I understand the concern regarding additional complications that a third
(actually 2.5) thread would add to the basic storyline(s). So, speaking
solely as a latecomer who brought a monkeywrench to the project, I'll be
perfectly satisfied with whatever the group eventually concludes --
subject to the opinions of the final deciding authority. Anyway, put me
down for three.

~ Snake Eyes
Message no. 10
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 12:46:29 -0700
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
> Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
> threads again. Strago's option will become his short story in all
> likelihood and we haven't had any more suggestions, so here are the two
> options:
>
> Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
> to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
> members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.
>
> Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
> team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
> Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
> chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.
>
> So basically, the overall concept of the second option is an expansion
> of the first, although the details would likely be quite different.
>
> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
> you'd prefer to do.
>
> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>
> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.


I vote for three threads.

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Message no. 11
From: Ahuizotl cuellare@***.telmex.net.mx
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 05:26:26 -0500
Rand Ratinac escribió:
>
> Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>
> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
> ==Two is my vote
Message no. 12
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:42:40 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Ahuizotl."
] >
] > Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
] > and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
] > concept.
] >
] > Okay, people, let's get things rolling.

Anybody keeping track of the votes? I assume Doc is...be interesting
to know how many people involved with the project have and haven't
voted yet.

-Murder of One
Message no. 13
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
> Anybody keeping track of the votes? I assume Doc is...be
interesting to know how many people involved with the project have and
haven't voted yet.
>
> -Murder of One

Not yet, but I was away when voting started. I'm GOING to be keeping
track.

Btw, someone (Strago?) mentioned that there are 10 people involved.
There are actually a few more than that and once I've been through all
my mail and collated all the votes, I'll let people who haven't voted,
but I expect to vote, know.
==Doc'
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Message no. 14
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:44:35 +1000
> > Okay, people, let's get things rolling.

Do I have to vote, or can people assume what I will vote instead?

GreyWolf

***
The vote is:
<grin> Three threads :)
***
Message no. 15
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
> I believe that this will actually be a "braided novel" - basically,
an anthology with an underlying plot/theme. According to Michael
Stackpole (a damn fine author - read his stuff if you get the chance)
in the afterword for "Wolf and Raven", a "braided novel" sell better
than an anthology. To me, it's a matter of semantics, but what the
hey?
> Geoff Haacke

I've been calling it a 'linked anthology', but as you said, Geoff, it's
a matter of semantics. :)
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Message no. 16
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
threads again. Strago's option will become his short story in all
likelihood and we haven't had any more suggestions, so here are the two
options:

Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.

Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.

So basically, the overall concept of the second option is an expansion
of the first, although the details would likely be quite different.

Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
you'd prefer to do.

If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
concept.

Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 17
From: noone youknow masquerades@****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:31:46 -0700
|Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS
military
|team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in
to rescue
|Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to
rescue a
|friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail
and they
|chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.


ok, back after some really bad email screw-ups so i have missed
a lot and the archives are sometimes quite hard to follow so
with not really much info and just reading the posts from this
evening i vote for the 3-thread option.



-----------------------------------------------
k. david hayes
masquerades@****.com
-----------------------------------------------
managing editor
ouc phoenix, kelowna b.c.
phoenix@******.bc.ca
-----------------------------------------------
campus plus board rep
western region
-----------------------------------------------
Message no. 18
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:01:09 -0400
Rand Ratinac wrote:

> <SNIP>
> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
> you'd prefer to do.
>
> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>

OK, I volunteer to collect the votes and let Doc know when the weekend is
over. I'd LOVE to get all the votes in by Sunday. By my calendar, that
gives two (2) days (approximately) to do it. If it's Friday night, well, if
it's in by Monday I won't beat you. OK? ;^)

> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
> ==> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
>
> .sig Sauer
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Message no. 19
From: Mockingbird mockingbird@*********.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:05:52 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com>
To: <srfanfic@*********.org>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 2:10 AM
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


> Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
> team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
> Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
> chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.
>

I vote for three.

Mockingbird
Message no. 20
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:20:02 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
] Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
] to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
] friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
] members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.

Two! That's my preference.

-Murder of One
Message no. 21
From: Ayla Renee ReneeKrena@********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:44:58 -0500
I vote for 3 as well...

Noone here really knows me, but my name is Renee, and my freinds call me
Ayla. I'v finished one novel, and am currently working on one to propose for
TSR (AD&D) But love Shadowrun and have played it for several years. I'm
slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll have
to excuse me, I just subscribed yesterday and have missed alot. Archives are
VERY Hard to follow.



-----Original Message-----
From: Strago <strago@***.com>
To: srfanfic@*********.org <srfanfic@*********.org>
Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


>Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
>> <SNIP>
>> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
>> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
>> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
>> you'd prefer to do.
>>
>> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
>> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
>> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
>> concept.
>>
>
>OK, I volunteer to collect the votes and let Doc know when the weekend is
>over. I'd LOVE to get all the votes in by Sunday. By my calendar, that
>gives two (2) days (approximately) to do it. If it's Friday night, well, if
>it's in by Monday I won't beat you. OK? ;^)
>
>> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
>> ==>> Doc'
>> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
>>
>> .sig Sauer
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Get your free @*****.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>--
>--Strago
>
>The gene pool in the 21st century needs a deep cleaning. I am the chlorine.
>
>
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>gm+ M-
>
>
>
>
>
Message no. 22
From: Mockingbird mockingbird@*********.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:10:43 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Ayla Renee <ReneeKrena@********.net>
To: <srfanfic@*********.org>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [RA:S Project] Two or three?


> I vote for 3 as well...
>
> Noone here really knows me, but my name is Renee, and my freinds call me
> Ayla. I'v finished one novel, and am currently working on one to propose
for
> TSR (AD&D) But love Shadowrun and have played it for several years. I'm
> slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
> Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
> run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll
have
> to excuse me, I just subscribed yesterday and have missed alot. Archives
are
> VERY Hard to follow.
>
>

Hi,
I know this isn't pointed at me, but I've got a second, so here goes.
The current plan is to have an anthology where all the short stories are
tied together by between 2 and 3 threads. For example, let's say I am
writing about a group that gets dropped into the Labrynth. While in there
my characters hear a gun fight between two groups. They hear one of the
members of the fight call out to a buddy, using the name of one of the
shadowrunners. I have written nothing above a one sentence description
about the core threads, yet it still runs through my story. Does this make
more sense?

Mockingbird
Message no. 23
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:06:30 CST
>From: "Ayla Renee" <ReneeKrena@********.net>
<SNIPPAGE>
>slightly confused on one point though.. Doc said this was going to be an
>Anthology... a collection of Short Stories. Your wanting these threads to
>run through all the stories? Am I understanding this correctly? You'll have

I believe that this will actually be a "braided novel" - basically, an
anthology with an underlying plot/theme. According to Michael Stackpole (a
damn fine author - read his stuff if you get the chance) in the afterword
for "Wolf and Raven", a "braided novel" sell better than an anthology.
To
me, it's a matter of semantics, but what the hey?

Geoff Haacke
"if you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."


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Message no. 24
From: Snake Eyes snake.eyes@********.att.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:04:34 -0700
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
>Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
>to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
>friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
>members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.
>
>Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
>team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
>Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
>friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
>chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.

I understand the concern regarding additional complications that a third
(actually 2.5) thread would add to the basic storyline(s). So, speaking
solely as a latecomer who brought a monkeywrench to the project, I'll be
perfectly satisfied with whatever the group eventually concludes --
subject to the opinions of the final deciding authority. Anyway, put me
down for three.

~ Snake Eyes
Message no. 25
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 12:46:29 -0700
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
> Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
> threads again. Strago's option will become his short story in all
> likelihood and we haven't had any more suggestions, so here are the two
> options:
>
> Two threads - as detailed by myself. A Renraku black ops team goes in
> to rescue Cliber. Meanwhile, a shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/whoever. Renraku team fails and loses most
> members. Shadow team succeeds - more or less.
>
> Three threads - as detailed by Snake Eyes and GreyWolf. UCAS military
> team goes in to rescue Cliber. Renraku black ops team goes in to rescue
> Cliber and stop UCAS from getting her. Shadow team goes in to rescue a
> friend/family member/etc. Both the UCAS and Renraku team fail and they
> chew each other up quite a bit. Shadow team succeeds.
>
> So basically, the overall concept of the second option is an expansion
> of the first, although the details would likely be quite different.
>
> Could everyone involved in the project (writers, planners, editors)
> start voting again? No more new ideas for the core threads unless
> you've got a REAL corker - just vote for which of the above options
> you'd prefer to do.
>
> If you have any questions about the details of the two options, I'm
> sure Kismet and Strago can answer them while I'm away over the weekend,
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>
> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.


I vote for three threads.

--Rat

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Message no. 26
From: Ahuizotl cuellare@***.telmex.net.mx
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 05:26:26 -0500
Rand Ratinac escribió:
>
> Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
> and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
> concept.
>
> Okay, people, let's get things rolling.
> ==Two is my vote
Message no. 27
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:42:40 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Ahuizotl."
] >
] > Okay, people, it looks like we're down to two options for the core
] > and Snake Eyes can also help answer anything about the 'three thread'
] > concept.
] >
] > Okay, people, let's get things rolling.

Anybody keeping track of the votes? I assume Doc is...be interesting
to know how many people involved with the project have and haven't
voted yet.

-Murder of One
Message no. 28
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:57:38 -0700 (PDT)
> Anybody keeping track of the votes? I assume Doc is...be
interesting to know how many people involved with the project have and
haven't voted yet.
>
> -Murder of One

Not yet, but I was away when voting started. I'm GOING to be keeping
track.

Btw, someone (Strago?) mentioned that there are 10 people involved.
There are actually a few more than that and once I've been through all
my mail and collated all the votes, I'll let people who haven't voted,
but I expect to vote, know.
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 29
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:44:35 +1000
> > Okay, people, let's get things rolling.

Do I have to vote, or can people assume what I will vote instead?

GreyWolf

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The vote is:
<grin> Three threads :)
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Message no. 30
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Two or three?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
> I believe that this will actually be a "braided novel" - basically,
an anthology with an underlying plot/theme. According to Michael
Stackpole (a damn fine author - read his stuff if you get the chance)
in the afterword for "Wolf and Raven", a "braided novel" sell better
than an anthology. To me, it's a matter of semantics, but what the
hey?
> Geoff Haacke

I've been calling it a 'linked anthology', but as you said, Geoff, it's
a matter of semantics. :)
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