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Message no. 1
From: Logan Graves logan1@*****.intercom.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:37:50 -0400
Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
Threads/Three Threads" -thread:

Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
-- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts
-- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
-- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it impacts one)

What the submission format's gonna be?
-- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala. SRFictionCircle?
-- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
-- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?

Have there been any submission deadlines set?
-- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?

Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.

--Logan
______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
(>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
(>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth
Message no. 2
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:11:47 -0400
Logan Graves wrote:

> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
> Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>

Actually, I've been wondering these questions myself. I'm going to try to answer
them to the best of my ability, and from what I've been thinking are the points we
should work from. That said, on with the discussion!

> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts
> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
> -- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it impacts
one)
>

I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea (as a 1
sentence "blurb", not the full description ie. mine (as we are all aware) is:
Resistance meets with Renraku and Shadowrunners, heavy interaction and a ferocious
gun battle at the end) then we might know. I'm not too sure about who's writing any
of the "Key" parts. Any volunteers? Remember, you kinda need to let go of your
characters after your story is written. I'm not a good candidate for that; I'm
kinda possessive about letting people play with my stuff...

> What the submission format's gonna be?
> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala. SRFictionCircle?
> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?
>

I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of their
characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when the rest of us
are writing our stories we can use the right names (right now, I'm just using
"shadowrunner 1," "Renraku 3," etc. Of course, I haven't started
writing yet. It's
all just in-head planning atm. As an editor, I'm planning on A) reading all of
the stories first, B) correcting spelling and grammar, C) talking extensively with
the writer(s) involved in any continuity crises, and D) letting each writer fix
what needs to be fixed. Then I'll re-read all the stories and the process will
repeat until all problems are solved to my satisfaction.

> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?
>

Like I said, I'd like to see copy from the "Key" writers ASAP so I can write
my
story. As for a deadline for everyone else, I'm kinda hoping July 1 will see the
beginnings of stories. I know this Thursday I'm gonna start actually writing.

> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.
>

You don't sound bitchy. These are all legitamate questions which MUST be answered
if this project is gonna reach more than the planning stage.

> --Logan
> ______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
> (>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
> little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
> I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
> Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
> (>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth



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Message no. 3
From: Ayla Renee ReneeKrena@********.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:55:00 -0500
My strong points are characterization, discription, and plot. The problem
I'm having with this entire thing is that I'm not at all good as far as
combat goes. My novels tend to be more in the political and spiritual arena.
As for a story IDEA, I think I'm going to hold off and see what some of you
produce and draw my ideas from that, or maybe tie them together at the end.
I'm not sure. Wherever I'll fit in best is where I'll rest...

-----Original Message-----
From: Strago <strago@***.com>
To: srfanfic@*********.org <srfanfic@*********.org>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Submission questions


>Logan Graves wrote:
>
>> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
>> Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>>
>
>Actually, I've been wondering these questions myself. I'm going to try to
answer
>them to the best of my ability, and from what I've been thinking are the
points we
>should work from. That said, on with the discussion!
>
>> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
>> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key"
parts
>> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
>> -- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it
impacts one)
>>
>
>I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea
(as a 1
>sentence "blurb", not the full description ie. mine (as we are all aware)
is:
>Resistance meets with Renraku and Shadowrunners, heavy interaction and a
ferocious
>gun battle at the end) then we might know. I'm not too sure about who's
writing any
>of the "Key" parts. Any volunteers? Remember, you kinda need to let go of
your
>characters after your story is written. I'm not a good candidate for that;
I'm
>kinda possessive about letting people play with my stuff...
>
>> What the submission format's gonna be?
>> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala.
SRFictionCircle?
>> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
>> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?
>>
>
> I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of their
>characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when the rest
of us
>are writing our stories we can use the right names (right now, I'm just
using
>"shadowrunner 1," "Renraku 3," etc. Of course, I haven't started
writing
yet. It's
>all just in-head planning atm. As an editor, I'm planning on A) reading
all of
>the stories first, B) correcting spelling and grammar, C) talking
extensively with
>the writer(s) involved in any continuity crises, and D) letting each writer
fix
>what needs to be fixed. Then I'll re-read all the stories and the process
will
>repeat until all problems are solved to my satisfaction.
>
>> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
>> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?
>>
>
> Like I said, I'd like to see copy from the "Key" writers ASAP so I can
write my
>story. As for a deadline for everyone else, I'm kinda hoping July 1 will
see the
>beginnings of stories. I know this Thursday I'm gonna start actually
writing.
>
>> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.
>>
>
>You don't sound bitchy. These are all legitamate questions which MUST be
answered
>if this project is gonna reach more than the planning stage.
>
>> --Logan
>>
______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.
net
>> (>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
>> little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
>> I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
>> Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
>> (>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth
>
>
>
>--
>--Strago
>
>The gene pool in the 21st century needs a deep cleaning. I am the chlorine.
>
>SRGC v0.2 !SR1 SR2++ !SR3 h b++ B- UB- IE+ RN++ sa++ ma++ ad+ m+ (o++ d+)
gm+ M-
>
>
>
>
>
Message no. 4
From: Logan Graves logan1@*****.intercom.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 02:47:45 -0400
In our last Strago wrote:
>
> I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea (as
> a 1 sentence "blurb", not the full description

Okay, that sounds good. I'll save him the trouble on mine.

[This is not a "key" part]:
"A lone, high-tech 'sneak-thief' breaks into a high-securtiy section of the Arc,
in search of >>Some Important Items<< on the day before (or early in _THE_
day)
Deus takes over, only to have said take-over ruin his carefully laid out plans.
I'm giong to have him briefly run afowl of a few of Deus' "Blues," then retreat
wounded & demoralized to some hidey-hole--to be found by (ie. handed-off to) the
(Key) Runner Team, later in the book, who'll help him get out."

My notes, so far:
----------------
o I'm keeping this story short since my stuff always runs l-o-n-g, 'sides, I
can always lengthen the fight scene if need be.

o It should be towards the beginning if possible, otherwise it'll be Flashback
City from his POV! -- not entirely a bad thing, but more difficult to craft.

o My dwarven "physical intrusion specialist" char is already fleshed out--he's
a new PC, whom I haven't written about before (made him up special for a
smuggling campaign that fell thru). The majority of my "stock" chars wouldn't
set foot in the 'Raku Arcology for all the tea in Chiba!

o The "Some Important Items" above should be carryable in a backpack, but could
tie in to another's story. <--(I'm re-reading RA:S now for ideas on this)

o Not sure at all how the aforementioned "character handoff" will work, but
that's why you editors get paid the BigBux! ;-)


That's all I have at this point folks,

--Logan
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Message no. 5
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:01:18 +1000
> o Not sure at all how the aforementioned "character handoff" will work,
but
> that's why you editors get paid the BigBux! ;-)

We get paid? :) <grin>

GreyWolf

*the people started to scream...*
Message no. 6
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:42:12 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Ayla Renee."
] My strong points are characterization, discription, and plot. The problem
] I'm having with this entire thing is that I'm not at all good as far as
] combat goes. My novels tend to be more in the political and spiritual arena.
] As for a story IDEA, I think I'm going to hold off and see what some of you
] produce and draw my ideas from that, or maybe tie them together at the end.
] I'm not sure. Wherever I'll fit in best is where I'll rest...

Well, I wouldn't worry about the combat thing. My tale's gonna have
only two violent scenes, really, really short ones, and I still think
it can stand up on its own. 'Course, it's only in the planning stages,
sooo...we'll see.

BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from our illustrious
leader in a while.

-Murder of One
Message no. 7
From: Demonnic Bloodbather demonnic@*********.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:58:11 +1200
> BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from our illustrious
> leader in a while.

The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that Doc only does the email thing
during the week. This based on the post last week (or was it the week before?)
about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be emailing during the weekend... In
which case I'm thinking he'll be back today. Of course, I could be
compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's just avoiding us because we've finally
driven him so far that he can't take it any more.


--
Demonnic
'Non Illegitimi Carborundum Est'
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Message no. 8
From: Kismet kismet_sr@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
--- Demonnic Bloodbather <demonnic@*********.net>
wrote:
> > BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from
> our illustrious
> > leader in a while.
>
> The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that
> Doc only does the email thing
> during the week. This based on the post last week
> (or was it the week before?)
> about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be
> emailing during the weekend... In
> which case I'm thinking he'll be back today. Of
> course, I could be
> compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's just avoiding
> us because we've finally
> driven him so far that he can't take it any more.
>
>
> --
> Demonnic

Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure
he's off weekends. He should be back tonight.

Kismet

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Message no. 9
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
> > The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that Doc only does
the email thing during the week. This based on the post last week (or
was it the week before?) about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be
emailing during the weekend... In which case I'm thinking he'll be back
today. Of course, I could be compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's
just avoiding us because we've finally driven him so far that he can't
take it any more.
> > --
> > Demonnic
>
> Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure he's off
weekends. He should be back tonight.
>
> Kismet

Both of you would be right...except about the being driven too far
bit...I've still got SOME patience left in me. :)

This was actually a long weekend, though, which is why I was gone for
three days, instead of the usual two. Sorry about forgetting to mention that.
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 10
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:34:24 +1000
Kismet wrote:

> Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure
> he's off weekends. He should be back tonight.
>
> Kismet

He will return.. trust me.. I know.. he WILL return.. (not for the
least reason that I think I saw him at the train stations this morning
going to work...). :)

GreyWolf
Message no. 11
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:38:02 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
] Both of you would be right...except about the being driven too far
] bit...I've still got SOME patience left in me. :)

We'll see.

] This was actually a long weekend, though, which is why I was gone for
] three days, instead of the usual two. Sorry about forgetting to
mention that.

So, now the burning question arises. In the light of a couple
changed votes that I currently forget, what's the score? Two, three,
nine threads? Should we start deciding who's writing what about the
core threads? Who _was_ that masked man?

-Murder of One
Message no. 12
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:54:34 -0700 (PDT)
> We'll see.

Yes. We will.

*maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*

> So, now the burning question arises. In the light of a couple
changed votes that I currently forget, what's the score? Two, three,
nine threads? Should we start deciding who's writing what about the
core threads? Who _was_ that masked man?
>
> -Murder of One

I don't know. Give me SOME time to read my mail. :) No, not yet. Once
I've figured out what's happening, I'll put up a post explaining the
next stage, which will include assigning the introductory posts for the
core threads. Batman.
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 13
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the
"Two Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>
> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?

No, not yet, although some people have already decided on their
(non-core) short story ideas - which is fine, as I've discussed with
them how to work the stories into the core threads. Anyway, the
"decision" will happen once we've figured out how many core threads
we're doing.

> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts

That's okay. There's

> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?

Yes. I have lists of story ideas and stories that people want to do.
Once we get up to the story stage (which will be quite soon), I'll be
putting up the 'ideas' again, for those who haven't got their own. :)

> What the submission format's gonna be?
> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala.
SRFictionCircle?
> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?

Drafts go to me. I circulate them to the editors. Someone says they'll
edit it. It's edited. We get back to the writers about any changes
required.

Meanwhile, if you WANT feedback from the list, you can send your draft
there. If you do this, you MUST collect all feedback generated and pass
it on to me, so that the editors can take it into account.

> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?

No. Things are still a bit too undecided for that.

> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late
> to this party.

Doesn't bother me. :)
==Doc'
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Message no. 14
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:15:05 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."

] *maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*

But apparently only on weekdays :)

] > Who _was_ that masked man?
] Batman.

Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line is
from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to two
old T.V. shows...

-Murder of One
Message no. 15
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:24:36 -0400
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:15:05 -0300 Scott Wheelock <iscottw@*****.nb.ca>
writes:
>"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
>
>] *maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*
>
> But apparently only on weekdays :)
>
>] > Who _was_ that masked man?
>] Batman.
>
> Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
>easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
>is
>from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>two
>old T.V. shows...
>
The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.

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Message no. 16
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
> I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story
idea (as a 1 sentence "blurb", not the full description

Will be done. Will also be discussed later today...

> I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of
their characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when
the rest of us are writing our stories we can use the right names.

Hah! Although I actually SAID we'd do this differently, I've been
thinking and...well, this will be discussed later today...no, honest.
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Message no. 17
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:04:36 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
] > Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
] >is
] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
] >two
] >old T.V. shows...
] >
] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.

THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...

"Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"

Thanks, Hunter.

-Murder of One
Message no. 18
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:57:47 -0400
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:04:36 -0300 Scott Wheelock <iscottw@*****.nb.ca>
writes:
>"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
>] > Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a
>pretty
>] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that
>line
>] >is
>] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>
>] >two
>] >old T.V. shows...
>] >
>] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.
>
> THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...
>
> "Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"
>
> Thanks, Hunter.
>
No prob.

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Message no. 19
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:55:32 EDT
In a message dated 6/15/99 8:06:14 AM, iscottw@*****.nb.ca writes:

>] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
>] >is
>] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>] >two
>] >old T.V. shows...
>] >
>] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.
>
> THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...
>
> "Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"

Boy...now *I* feel old and I wasn't even alive when the Lone Ranger
was on the air. I can't believe people couldn't remember where that line
came from...(well, unless yer from another country.)

Tay-Dor
(Who watched far too much TV as a child)
Message no. 20
From: Logan Graves logan1@*****.intercom.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:37:50 -0400
Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
Threads/Three Threads" -thread:

Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
-- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts
-- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
-- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it impacts one)

What the submission format's gonna be?
-- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala. SRFictionCircle?
-- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
-- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?

Have there been any submission deadlines set?
-- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?

Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.

--Logan
______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
(>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
(>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth
Message no. 21
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:11:47 -0400
Logan Graves wrote:

> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
> Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>

Actually, I've been wondering these questions myself. I'm going to try to answer
them to the best of my ability, and from what I've been thinking are the points we
should work from. That said, on with the discussion!

> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts
> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
> -- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it impacts
one)
>

I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea (as a 1
sentence "blurb", not the full description ie. mine (as we are all aware) is:
Resistance meets with Renraku and Shadowrunners, heavy interaction and a ferocious
gun battle at the end) then we might know. I'm not too sure about who's writing any
of the "Key" parts. Any volunteers? Remember, you kinda need to let go of your
characters after your story is written. I'm not a good candidate for that; I'm
kinda possessive about letting people play with my stuff...

> What the submission format's gonna be?
> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala. SRFictionCircle?
> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?
>

I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of their
characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when the rest of us
are writing our stories we can use the right names (right now, I'm just using
"shadowrunner 1," "Renraku 3," etc. Of course, I haven't started
writing yet. It's
all just in-head planning atm. As an editor, I'm planning on A) reading all of
the stories first, B) correcting spelling and grammar, C) talking extensively with
the writer(s) involved in any continuity crises, and D) letting each writer fix
what needs to be fixed. Then I'll re-read all the stories and the process will
repeat until all problems are solved to my satisfaction.

> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?
>

Like I said, I'd like to see copy from the "Key" writers ASAP so I can write
my
story. As for a deadline for everyone else, I'm kinda hoping July 1 will see the
beginnings of stories. I know this Thursday I'm gonna start actually writing.

> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.
>

You don't sound bitchy. These are all legitamate questions which MUST be answered
if this project is gonna reach more than the planning stage.

> --Logan
> ______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.net
> (>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
> little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
> I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
> Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
> (>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth



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Message no. 22
From: Ayla Renee ReneeKrena@********.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:55:00 -0500
My strong points are characterization, discription, and plot. The problem
I'm having with this entire thing is that I'm not at all good as far as
combat goes. My novels tend to be more in the political and spiritual arena.
As for a story IDEA, I think I'm going to hold off and see what some of you
produce and draw my ideas from that, or maybe tie them together at the end.
I'm not sure. Wherever I'll fit in best is where I'll rest...

-----Original Message-----
From: Strago <strago@***.com>
To: srfanfic@*********.org <srfanfic@*********.org>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Submission questions


>Logan Graves wrote:
>
>> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the "Two
>> Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>>
>
>Actually, I've been wondering these questions myself. I'm going to try to
answer
>them to the best of my ability, and from what I've been thinking are the
points we
>should work from. That said, on with the discussion!
>
>> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?
>> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key"
parts
>> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?
>> -- I spoke w/Doc last week about my part (not a "Key" bit, but it
impacts one)
>>
>
>I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea
(as a 1
>sentence "blurb", not the full description ie. mine (as we are all aware)
is:
>Resistance meets with Renraku and Shadowrunners, heavy interaction and a
ferocious
>gun battle at the end) then we might know. I'm not too sure about who's
writing any
>of the "Key" parts. Any volunteers? Remember, you kinda need to let go of
your
>characters after your story is written. I'm not a good candidate for that;
I'm
>kinda possessive about letting people play with my stuff...
>
>> What the submission format's gonna be?
>> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala.
SRFictionCircle?
>> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
>> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?
>>
>
> I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of their
>characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when the rest
of us
>are writing our stories we can use the right names (right now, I'm just
using
>"shadowrunner 1," "Renraku 3," etc. Of course, I haven't started
writing
yet. It's
>all just in-head planning atm. As an editor, I'm planning on A) reading
all of
>the stories first, B) correcting spelling and grammar, C) talking
extensively with
>the writer(s) involved in any continuity crises, and D) letting each writer
fix
>what needs to be fixed. Then I'll re-read all the stories and the process
will
>repeat until all problems are solved to my satisfaction.
>
>> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
>> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?
>>
>
> Like I said, I'd like to see copy from the "Key" writers ASAP so I can
write my
>story. As for a deadline for everyone else, I'm kinda hoping July 1 will
see the
>beginnings of stories. I know this Thursday I'm gonna start actually
writing.
>
>> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late to this party.
>>
>
>You don't sound bitchy. These are all legitamate questions which MUST be
answered
>if this project is gonna reach more than the planning stage.
>
>> --Logan
>>
______________________________________________________logan1@*****.intercom.
net
>> (>) Is it in the "mysterious employer credo" that these
>> little rendezvous *always* have to be in exotic locales?
>> I mean, just *once* wouldn't you like to sit down at a
>> Denny's and plan an assassination over a "French Slam" breakfast?
>> (>) Deadpool, merc-with-a-mouth
>
>
>
>--
>--Strago
>
>The gene pool in the 21st century needs a deep cleaning. I am the chlorine.
>
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>
>
>
>
>
Message no. 23
From: Logan Graves logan1@*****.intercom.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 02:47:45 -0400
In our last Strago wrote:
>
> I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story idea (as
> a 1 sentence "blurb", not the full description

Okay, that sounds good. I'll save him the trouble on mine.

[This is not a "key" part]:
"A lone, high-tech 'sneak-thief' breaks into a high-securtiy section of the Arc,
in search of >>Some Important Items<< on the day before (or early in _THE_
day)
Deus takes over, only to have said take-over ruin his carefully laid out plans.
I'm giong to have him briefly run afowl of a few of Deus' "Blues," then retreat
wounded & demoralized to some hidey-hole--to be found by (ie. handed-off to) the
(Key) Runner Team, later in the book, who'll help him get out."

My notes, so far:
----------------
o I'm keeping this story short since my stuff always runs l-o-n-g, 'sides, I
can always lengthen the fight scene if need be.

o It should be towards the beginning if possible, otherwise it'll be Flashback
City from his POV! -- not entirely a bad thing, but more difficult to craft.

o My dwarven "physical intrusion specialist" char is already fleshed out--he's
a new PC, whom I haven't written about before (made him up special for a
smuggling campaign that fell thru). The majority of my "stock" chars wouldn't
set foot in the 'Raku Arcology for all the tea in Chiba!

o The "Some Important Items" above should be carryable in a backpack, but could
tie in to another's story. <--(I'm re-reading RA:S now for ideas on this)

o Not sure at all how the aforementioned "character handoff" will work, but
that's why you editors get paid the BigBux! ;-)


That's all I have at this point folks,

--Logan
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Message no. 24
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:01:18 +1000
> o Not sure at all how the aforementioned "character handoff" will work,
but
> that's why you editors get paid the BigBux! ;-)

We get paid? :) <grin>

GreyWolf

*the people started to scream...*
Message no. 25
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:42:12 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Ayla Renee."
] My strong points are characterization, discription, and plot. The problem
] I'm having with this entire thing is that I'm not at all good as far as
] combat goes. My novels tend to be more in the political and spiritual arena.
] As for a story IDEA, I think I'm going to hold off and see what some of you
] produce and draw my ideas from that, or maybe tie them together at the end.
] I'm not sure. Wherever I'll fit in best is where I'll rest...

Well, I wouldn't worry about the combat thing. My tale's gonna have
only two violent scenes, really, really short ones, and I still think
it can stand up on its own. 'Course, it's only in the planning stages,
sooo...we'll see.

BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from our illustrious
leader in a while.

-Murder of One
Message no. 26
From: Demonnic Bloodbather demonnic@*********.net
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:58:11 +1200
> BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from our illustrious
> leader in a while.

The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that Doc only does the email thing
during the week. This based on the post last week (or was it the week before?)
about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be emailing during the weekend... In
which case I'm thinking he'll be back today. Of course, I could be
compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's just avoiding us because we've finally
driven him so far that he can't take it any more.


--
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Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Message no. 27
From: Kismet kismet_sr@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
--- Demonnic Bloodbather <demonnic@*********.net>
wrote:
> > BTW, where the heck is Doc'? Haven't heard from
> our illustrious
> > leader in a while.
>
> The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that
> Doc only does the email thing
> during the week. This based on the post last week
> (or was it the week before?)
> about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be
> emailing during the weekend... In
> which case I'm thinking he'll be back today. Of
> course, I could be
> compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's just avoiding
> us because we've finally
> driven him so far that he can't take it any more.
>
>
> --
> Demonnic

Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure
he's off weekends. He should be back tonight.

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Message no. 28
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
> > The way it seems to me (Though I'm not sure) is that Doc only does
the email thing during the week. This based on the post last week (or
was it the week before?) about seeing us on monday cuz he wouldn't be
emailing during the weekend... In which case I'm thinking he'll be back
today. Of course, I could be compleeeeeeeeeeeeeetely wrong and he's
just avoiding us because we've finally driven him so far that he can't
take it any more.
> > --
> > Demonnic
>
> Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure he's off
weekends. He should be back tonight.
>
> Kismet

Both of you would be right...except about the being driven too far
bit...I've still got SOME patience left in me. :)

This was actually a long weekend, though, which is why I was gone for
three days, instead of the usual two. Sorry about forgetting to mention that.
==Doc'
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Message no. 29
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:34:24 +1000
Kismet wrote:

> Doc only has internet access at work. I'm pretty sure
> he's off weekends. He should be back tonight.
>
> Kismet

He will return.. trust me.. I know.. he WILL return.. (not for the
least reason that I think I saw him at the train stations this morning
going to work...). :)

GreyWolf
Message no. 30
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:38:02 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
] Both of you would be right...except about the being driven too far
] bit...I've still got SOME patience left in me. :)

We'll see.

] This was actually a long weekend, though, which is why I was gone for
] three days, instead of the usual two. Sorry about forgetting to
mention that.

So, now the burning question arises. In the light of a couple
changed votes that I currently forget, what's the score? Two, three,
nine threads? Should we start deciding who's writing what about the
core threads? Who _was_ that masked man?

-Murder of One
Message no. 31
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:54:34 -0700 (PDT)
> We'll see.

Yes. We will.

*maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*

> So, now the burning question arises. In the light of a couple
changed votes that I currently forget, what's the score? Two, three,
nine threads? Should we start deciding who's writing what about the
core threads? Who _was_ that masked man?
>
> -Murder of One

I don't know. Give me SOME time to read my mail. :) No, not yet. Once
I've figured out what's happening, I'll put up a post explaining the
next stage, which will include assigning the introductory posts for the
core threads. Batman.
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Message no. 32
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
> Maybe I missed this in the last 300-odd posts, but ignoring the
"Two Threads/Three Threads" -thread:
>
> Has it been decided Who's Writing What?

No, not yet, although some people have already decided on their
(non-core) short story ideas - which is fine, as I've discussed with
them how to work the stories into the core threads. Anyway, the
"decision" will happen once we've figured out how many core threads
we're doing.

> -- Got a lot of potential writers & only three (or two) "Key" parts

That's okay. There's

> -- Is there a proposed list of stories somewhere?

Yes. I have lists of story ideas and stories that people want to do.
Once we get up to the story stage (which will be quite soon), I'll be
putting up the 'ideas' again, for those who haven't got their own. :)

> What the submission format's gonna be?
> -- Do we just post the rough drafts for all to see, ala.
SRFictionCircle?
> -- or email the text to the editors (& continuity cops) first?
> -- and just how are they planning to DO their dirty work?

Drafts go to me. I circulate them to the editors. Someone says they'll
edit it. It's edited. We get back to the writers about any changes
required.

Meanwhile, if you WANT feedback from the list, you can send your draft
there. If you do this, you MUST collect all feedback generated and pass
it on to me, so that the editors can take it into account.

> Have there been any submission deadlines set?
> -- ie. when do you want to see some copy from us?

No. Things are still a bit too undecided for that.

> Not meaning to sound bitchy here, I _did_ come late
> to this party.

Doesn't bother me. :)
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Message no. 33
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:15:05 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."

] *maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*

But apparently only on weekdays :)

] > Who _was_ that masked man?
] Batman.

Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line is
from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to two
old T.V. shows...

-Murder of One
Message no. 34
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:24:36 -0400
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:15:05 -0300 Scott Wheelock <iscottw@*****.nb.ca>
writes:
>"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Rand Ratinac."
>
>] *maniacal, evil genius-type laughter is heard...*
>
> But apparently only on weekdays :)
>
>] > Who _was_ that masked man?
>] Batman.
>
> Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
>easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
>is
>from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>two
>old T.V. shows...
>
The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.

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Message no. 35
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:01:56 -0700 (PDT)
> I've been thinking this as well. If Doc' would post everyone's story
idea (as a 1 sentence "blurb", not the full description

Will be done. Will also be discussed later today...

> I'd like for the writers of the "key" stories to post a list of
their characters and what those characters' functions are, just so when
the rest of us are writing our stories we can use the right names.

Hah! Although I actually SAID we'd do this differently, I've been
thinking and...well, this will be discussed later today...no, honest.
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Message no. 36
From: Scott Wheelock iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:04:36 -0300
"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
] > Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a pretty
] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
] >is
] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
] >two
] >old T.V. shows...
] >
] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.

THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...

"Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"

Thanks, Hunter.

-Murder of One
Message no. 37
From: Hunter griffinhq@****.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:57:47 -0400
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:04:36 -0300 Scott Wheelock <iscottw@*****.nb.ca>
writes:
>"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to Hunter."
>] > Nope, sorry. I'm somewhat disappointed, Doc'. That was a
>pretty
>] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that
>line
>] >is
>] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>
>] >two
>] >old T.V. shows...
>] >
>] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.
>
> THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...
>
> "Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"
>
> Thanks, Hunter.
>
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Message no. 38
From: CEvans9159@***.com CEvans9159@***.com
Subject: Submission questions
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:55:32 EDT
In a message dated 6/15/99 8:06:14 AM, iscottw@*****.nb.ca writes:

>] >easy one, really. Except for now _I_ can't remember where that line
>] >is
>] >from...crud...anybody know? Anyone? I've got it narrowed down to
>] >two
>] >old T.V. shows...
>] >
>] The Lone Ranger. It was also a radio show.
>
> THAT'S the one! It was that or Zorro...yep, the Lone Ranger...
>
> "Hi-ho, Silver! Awaaaay!!!"

Boy...now *I* feel old and I wasn't even alive when the Lone Ranger
was on the air. I can't believe people couldn't remember where that line
came from...(well, unless yer from another country.)

Tay-Dor
(Who watched far too much TV as a child)

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