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Message no. 1
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:24:18 -0700
Demonnic Bloodbather wrote:
>
> Ok, I for one am for Doc's idea concerning the two central threads. I
> haven't read 'Into the Shadows' but I have read books written with the
> same premise, and I have reread them many more times than I have simple
> anthologies, even if they had a central event, they just weren't as good
> IMO as the ones who all tied together to form a much larger picture. Now
> that I'm more clear on everything, I'm behind Doc on this one, it's a
> good idea, and not an easy one, but since when was writing anything of
> lasting impression or value meant to be easy? We've got 4 editors, that
> should be more than plenty to catch our mistakes. Heck, that's what
> editors are for, besides the fact that no matter how much you edit your
> own story, there's usually something you've missed because 'you know
> what you meant' or you simply didn't see it, just like you didn't see it
> when you wrote it down. I think it'd major cool points for the writers,
> editors, and other contributors if FASA published it too. If it doesn't
> pan out in the beginning, it doesn't pan out, and we can change
> directions.
>
> Anyways, to make a long story short, I think Doc's idea is 'wiz' and I'm
> all for going for it.
>
> --


Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!

I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.

If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:

1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance,
last I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make
sure they don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next
couple of years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.

2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if
we plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology
based around an "old news" plotline?

3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or
Jak Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might
take the project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.

Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport--
I'm very interested in the project. Just bringing these things
up early so they can be addressed.

Also, if there's room for another editor, I'm interested. I'm not
great with continuity, but I'm good with character and
whether plot holds together.

Later,
--Rat

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Message no. 2
From: Demonnic Bloodbather demonnic@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:38:02 +1200
> Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
> finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!
>
> I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
> thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.
>
> If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
> finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:
>
> 1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance,
> last I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make
> sure they don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next
> couple of years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.
>

Mightn't be a bad idea, but even then, I'd still do the project for the self
gratification of writing a decent story

>
> 2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
> trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
> almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if
> we plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology
> based around an "old news" plotline?
>

How 'old news' is it though? I mean, if FASA had already done something major
with it, or advanced it in their story line, I could see it, but it's still
listed as being a 'wildcard' in the world at the moment (At least as far as I
know)

>
> 3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
> published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or
> Jak Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might
> take the project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.
>

Not only would that prolly prod FASA a bit more into taking it seriously, but
it'd kick mega-arse to write anything associated with some of the SR novel
authors.

> Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport--
> I'm very interested in the project. Just bringing these things
> up early so they can be addressed.
>

Best time to do it

--
Demonnic
'Non Illegitimi Carborundum Est'
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Message no. 3
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
> Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!
>
> I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.
>
> If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:
>
> 1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance, last
I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make sure they
don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next couple of
years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.

Possibly, although I thought it might be worthwhile to hold off until
we had SOMETHING (a couple of stories, plus a synopsis for the rest of
the stories, similar to what is required by FASA's submission
guidelines) before taking it to them. Otherwise they might just veto
the idea from the start and we wouldn't have the chance to impress them
with our talent. :)


> 2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if we
plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology based
around an "old news" plotline?

Well, this is still very much open as of New Seattle. I think FASA is
going to have to do SOMETHING to finish this shutdown plot off - if
they ever do. So, yes, in the meantime I think we've got a good chance
if our stories are good enough. That's the big thing. We have to be
ambitious in what we do in order for it to be eye-catching enough that
FASA would want to publish it.


> 3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or Jak
Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might take the
project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.

Yes, I'm sure it would. Okay, should I approach them with the current
idea summary? Or should I wait until we've decided on the core
plotlines? Or do you guys think someone else should take care of this?


> Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport-- I'm
very interested in the project. Just bringing these things up early so
they can be addressed.

Fair enough. Don't forget, Rat, even if FASA says no, I still want to
do this and we'll put the finished product up on the net for public
consumption. You'd love having it on your page, wouldn't you? :)


> Also, if there's room for another editor, I'm interested. I'm not
great with continuity, but I'm good with character and whether plot
holds together.

Welcome to the team. :)
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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Message no. 4
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:24:18 -0700
Demonnic Bloodbather wrote:
>
> Ok, I for one am for Doc's idea concerning the two central threads. I
> haven't read 'Into the Shadows' but I have read books written with the
> same premise, and I have reread them many more times than I have simple
> anthologies, even if they had a central event, they just weren't as good
> IMO as the ones who all tied together to form a much larger picture. Now
> that I'm more clear on everything, I'm behind Doc on this one, it's a
> good idea, and not an easy one, but since when was writing anything of
> lasting impression or value meant to be easy? We've got 4 editors, that
> should be more than plenty to catch our mistakes. Heck, that's what
> editors are for, besides the fact that no matter how much you edit your
> own story, there's usually something you've missed because 'you know
> what you meant' or you simply didn't see it, just like you didn't see it
> when you wrote it down. I think it'd major cool points for the writers,
> editors, and other contributors if FASA published it too. If it doesn't
> pan out in the beginning, it doesn't pan out, and we can change
> directions.
>
> Anyways, to make a long story short, I think Doc's idea is 'wiz' and I'm
> all for going for it.
>
> --


Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!

I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.

If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:

1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance,
last I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make
sure they don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next
couple of years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.

2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if
we plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology
based around an "old news" plotline?

3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or
Jak Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might
take the project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.

Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport--
I'm very interested in the project. Just bringing these things
up early so they can be addressed.

Also, if there's room for another editor, I'm interested. I'm not
great with continuity, but I'm good with character and
whether plot holds together.

Later,
--Rat

=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>=>
Rat - winterhawk@*********.net http://www.magespace.net
Winterhawk's Virtual Magespace - Shadowrun Fiction and More!
DOD#1211 1999 K1200RS - "Dunkelzahn"
"The pickles are staring at me..."
<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<=<
Message no. 5
From: Demonnic Bloodbather demonnic@*********.net
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:38:02 +1200
> Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
> finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!
>
> I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
> thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.
>
> If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
> finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:
>
> 1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance,
> last I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make
> sure they don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next
> couple of years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.
>

Mightn't be a bad idea, but even then, I'd still do the project for the self
gratification of writing a decent story

>
> 2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
> trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
> almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if
> we plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology
> based around an "old news" plotline?
>

How 'old news' is it though? I mean, if FASA had already done something major
with it, or advanced it in their story line, I could see it, but it's still
listed as being a 'wildcard' in the world at the moment (At least as far as I
know)

>
> 3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
> published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or
> Jak Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might
> take the project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.
>

Not only would that prolly prod FASA a bit more into taking it seriously, but
it'd kick mega-arse to write anything associated with some of the SR novel
authors.

> Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport--
> I'm very interested in the project. Just bringing these things
> up early so they can be addressed.
>

Best time to do it

--
Demonnic
'Non Illegitimi Carborundum Est'
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Message no. 6
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: [RA:S Project] Re: Project direction and basis
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 01:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
> Well, after I've had it beaten into my head a few times, and I
finally *understand* it correctly, I like it too!
>
> I was having a few thoughts this morning (three, specifically), and
thought I'd toss them out to see what folks think of them.
>
> If the stated aim is to get this baby published by FASA when it's
finished, there were three issues that occurred to me:
>
> 1. Given FASA's novel publishing schedule, (2 years in advance, last
I heard), it might be worthwhile to check with FASA to make sure they
don't have any grand plans for the Arcology in the next couple of
years. Otherwise, our anthology might end up being moot.

Possibly, although I thought it might be worthwhile to hold off until
we had SOMETHING (a couple of stories, plus a synopsis for the rest of
the stories, similar to what is required by FASA's submission
guidelines) before taking it to them. Otherwise they might just veto
the idea from the start and we wouldn't have the chance to impress them
with our talent. :)


> 2. On the same note (and I'm playing devil's advocate here, not
trying to be a spoilsport), the Arcology Shutdown plotline is already
almost a year old. Cool as it is (and again, I'm talking about if we
plan to get this published) is FASA going to go for an anthology based
around an "old news" plotline?

Well, this is still very much open as of New Seattle. I think FASA is
going to have to do SOMETHING to finish this shutdown plot off - if
they ever do. So, yes, in the meantime I think we've got a good chance
if our stories are good enough. That's the big thing. We have to be
ambitious in what we do in order for it to be eye-catching enough that
FASA would want to publish it.


> 3. Would it be of any value to try to convince one of the SR
published authors (such as, say, Steve Kenson, Brian Schoner, or Jak
Koke) to write an "anchor" story for the anthology? FASA might take the
project more seriously if there was a "name" involved.

Yes, I'm sure it would. Okay, should I approach them with the current
idea summary? Or should I wait until we've decided on the core
plotlines? Or do you guys think someone else should take care of this?


> Okay, I'm done now. Again, I'm not trying to be a spoilsport-- I'm
very interested in the project. Just bringing these things up early so
they can be addressed.

Fair enough. Don't forget, Rat, even if FASA says no, I still want to
do this and we'll put the finished product up on the net for public
consumption. You'd love having it on your page, wouldn't you? :)


> Also, if there's room for another editor, I'm interested. I'm not
great with continuity, but I'm good with character and whether plot
holds together.

Welcome to the team. :)
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)

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