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From: "Legion, now in syndication!" <legion@**************.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: [2] AP rounds
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 17:11:17 MDT
Well, Mr. Neuman, most of your information is correct, but look at the
source: officers. Although most Armor officers are knowledgeable on the
subject of tank munitions, they are not career Armor officers. They stay
in Armor (or Infantry) until they go to advanced course (to make Captain)
and change career tracks.

The round's correct name is APFSDS-T. Armor Piercing Fin Stabilized
Discarding Sabot with Tracer. Tests done on this round were incredible.

It took the M-1 (105mm, tungsten steel) 13 rounds to penetrate the M-1A1's
turret armor, which only has 3 more tons of armor on the vehicle total.
It took the M-1A1 (120mm, DU) exactly one round to penetrate the M-1's only
slightly thinner armor. One. Ugly. Warsaw pact penetrator rods we're sticking
out of the armor on M-1's in Desert Storm like bent nails.

My Executive Officer and I sat down and figured out the impact of a 105mm
sabot round. With all the information we could gather, as well as having
more than a few Sergeants who helped to test the M-1 prior to being accepted
by the Army, we figured it out to be approx 60 tons per square inch. Ouch.

Oh, my sources? I was an M-1A1 Tanker for four years and had alot of very
knowledgeable NCO's. Great experience!

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