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Message no. 1
From: owen@***.edu.au (Owen McKerrow)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 15:11:53 +1000
Finally, a street date!

Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!

Posted in SR4 by RobBoyleFrom snicker@*********.net Sat Sep 24 06:16:46 2005
From: snicker@*********.net (Snicker)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:16:46 -0500
Subject: OT: Testing for Echo
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At 06:37 AM 9/22/2005, you wrote:
>At 08:01 PM 9/21/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Cat 5 hurricane here. Bugging out for higher ground. Someone roll a
> >driving test for me ;)

Succeeded in driving roll - though it ended up taking over 40 hours to get
from Houston to Arkansas. Spent 6 hours on one ten-mile stretch
alone. All I can say is .. Wow. What a mass of humanity, all flooding in
the same direction... The pictures do NOT do it justice. Despite it all -
people did not resort to extremes. Even stranded, out of gas, stuck in 104
degree weather, people were as friendly as they could be.


>Yikes! Don't forget the important stuff, like your Shadowrun books. :-D

My original plan was to simply count everything as a loss, considering the
planned devastation. After talking with my best friend, I changed my mind,
delayed my departure for four hours, and repacked my entire house up at
least 2 feet. I may come back to an undamaged house, or minor damage, but
Shadowrun will survive ;)

Thanks for your concern - here's to hoping Rita takes a pass on wiping
Louiisiana and east Texas off the map.

Snicker
Message no. 2
From: weberm@*******.net (Ubiquitous)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 14:37:32 -0400
At 03:11 PM 9/24/2005 +1000, Owen McKerrow <owen@***.edu.au> wrote:

>Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
>which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
>This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!

Oooh, I'll have to drop by the local hobby shop, as it were, and lok for it!

Not that I'm going to switch, mind you...
--
"Ted, sweetheart...somebody's left a wicker basket with a little baby in it
on our front doorstep."
"Just leave it out there on the stoop, honey. The cats'll get it."
- Red Meat http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/
Message no. 3
From: adam_carter@******.net (Adam Carter)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:59:37 -0700
>Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
>which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
>This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!

Is this still the current story? I just spoke to my FLGS and they are
saying that a binding error at the publisher has delayed the release, and
they don't yet have a revised date.
Message no. 4
From: zebulingod@*****.com (zebulingod)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:40:27 -0700
Adam Carter wrote:
#
#>Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
#>which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
#>This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!
#
#Is this still the current story? I just spoke to my FLGS and
#they are saying that a binding error at the publisher has
#delayed the release, and they don't yet have a revised date.
#

I just spoke to my game store and they said October 17th at the soonest.

Zebulin
Message no. 5
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:02:43 -0700
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:59:37 -0700
"Adam Carter" <adam_carter@******.net> wrote:
> >Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
> >which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
> >This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!
>
> Is this still the current story? I just spoke to my FLGS and they are
> saying that a binding error at the publisher has delayed the release, and
> they don't yet have a revised date.
>
It's the fifth, and my distributor still isn't shpping it
--Anders
Message no. 6
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin M)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:31:56 -0700
On 10/5/05, Anders Swenson <anders@**********.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:59:37 -0700
> "Adam Carter" <adam_carter@******.net> wrote:
> > >Shadowrun Fourth Edition will be shipping to distributors next week,
> > >which means we have an official street release date of October 3rd.
> > >This first print run is going to go fast, so get it while you can!
> >
> > Is this still the current story? I just spoke to my FLGS and they are
> > saying that a binding error at the publisher has delayed the release,
> and
> > they don't yet have a revised date.
> >
> It's the fifth, and my distributor still isn't shpping it
> --Anders
>

I was told the 17th at the earliest by my store.

Zebulin
Message no. 7
From: bullcon@*****.com (Bull)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:59:00 -0400
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matthew.compton@*****.com Thu Oct 6 07:24:39 2005
From: matthew.compton@*****.com (Matt)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 23:24:39 -0700
Subject: Hacking a Smartlink in SR4
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On 10/5/05, NightLife <Nightlife@*****.rr.com> wrote:
> The idea that rankles me the most is hacking a pc not a mainframe
> through his/her cyber. Not the idea that someone records the last
> time I bought a bag of cheetos with my credstick. What also bother me
> is the idea that my pistol, my pants, my toothbrush and toothpaste
> have a wireless computer in it. The whole concept is insane. It
> bothers me that some psychic hacker, can hack the wireless computer
> in my shoes, my socks, my baseball cap and the bag of male
> unmentionables that I just picked up from the drug store. It bothers
> me that this same psychic hacker can shut down my characters body,
> piece by piece. Unless I make damn sure that every piece of gear I
> have is wireless from my jock to my tactical computer. This same
> psychic decker doesn't even need a datajack and a cellphone to pull
> this off. He/she wiggles their nose and I have to reboot my wired
> reflexes, so unless I go to the drug store with my decker pal and/or
> have him cook up encryption. Its absurd. It makes having a tech based
> pc a lot less desirable. I know the whole hacking process supposed to
> be difficult, but really how long did take for someone to munch out
> and want to hack somebody's cyber a whole 30 seconds after the
> edition hit. Hack a mainframe, hack a drone, hell hack robotic hot
> dog vendor for all I care. Turn around and hack a pc, its technorape
> to coin a new word. simply because its violation. There's no reason
> for all this, where does it end wireless underwear. No one would
> stand for it, the logic doesn't fly with me.
>

Not everything is hackable though. The books specifically states that
it is up to the GM what items will be wireless enabled. So I doubt the
most basic items would be wireless. Unless maybe they slapped in an
RFID to track shipping... But then I would be dubious about that. I
would say small household items would only have RFIDs in the crate
like today, not in the product itself. But that's just me. I wouldn't
expect underwear or toothpaste to be wireless. The books makes mention
of a coat or shirt being so, so that a user could store music in it...
I see clothes like that being designed today, but I don't think our
skivvies will be so enabled. :-)


--
Mankind cannot bear very much reality.
Message no. 8
From: graht1@*****.com (Graht)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 07:53:51 -0600
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Message no. 9
From: marc.renouf@******.com (Renouf, Marc A.)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:11:22 -0400
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com] On Behalf Of Graht
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:54 AM
>
> At least SR4 is out of production (and available in PDF form)
> and they're only trying to overcome bindery problems.

Word. As much as I love Harn, they've made some, er,
unfulfilled production promises. I've been waiting for the Trierzon
regional module since fall of 1987.

Marc
Message no. 10
From: bullcon@*****.com (Bull)
Subject: 3rd of Oct
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:11:03 -0400
On 10/6/05, Renouf, Marc A. <marc.renouf@******.com> wrote:
>
>
> Word. As much as I love Harn, they've made some, er,
> unfulfilled production promises. I've been waiting for the Trierzon
> regional module since fall of 1987.
>
> Marc
>
One of the guys from Redbrick, which is doing the Earthdawn 1st ed stuff,
posted to RPGnet in a similar thread there that they were having a similar
issue with a binding company. No idea if it's the SAME binding company,
but...
Bull

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