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Message no. 1
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:45:44 -0700
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From screamingskull@****.com Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:50:46 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:50:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: tyrell hughes screamingskull@****.com
Subject: Declining a run [Re: A question for all GMs out there]

>Then there was the SR Adventure that Widow and Shadowdancer ran >at SimCon
in
>Rochester, NY two years ago.

>A convention adventure... and the runners were considering >turning it
down.

>What do you do then?

well, there are two ways around this problem. you can find someway to make
them want to do the run, like envolving the characters worst enemy, or you
can give up for the night.

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From iscottw@*****.nb.ca Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:04:26 -0300
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:04:26 -0300
From: Scott W iscottw@*****.nb.ca
Subject: We're LIVE!!! (HHH Update)

"And now, a Channel 6 editorial reply to abortion_engine."
] >However, the most important fact I picked up was that R
Message no. 2
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
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From Ereskanti@***.com Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:39:43 EDT
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:39:43 EDT
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Cyber dragon???

In a message dated 10/26/1999 11:39:13 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
dbuehrer@****.org writes:

> \ You've got the idea Dave, but for whatever reason you over did it on what
> the
> \ spell would do. I'm just talking about a spell
Message no. 3
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:12:51 -0400
ERROR: This message seems to be empty. It is located at Week-of-Mon-19991025.txt::241824,308.
Message no. 4
From: Richard Tomasso rtomasso@*******.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:52:57 -0400 (EDT)
It would be interesting to know whether or not Catholic hospitals would
perform cyber surgery. And what military chaplains think of cyber-modded
soldiers in their charge.





Fro
Message no. 5
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:32:42 -0700
Nice to see you still live there guy.

Well, its been a kind of long time, and I decided to reatart the flame wars
I'm use to....

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What is Vegemite?
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From t_berghoff@*********.netsurf.de Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:07:42 +0200
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:07:42 +0200
From: Zixx t_berghoff@*********.netsurf.de
Subj
Message no. 6
From: Rat winterhawk@*********.net
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:12:35 -0700
Young Guns 2.


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From anders@**********.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:04:54 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:04:54 -0700
From: Anders Swenson anders@**********.com
Subject: Dragons

----- Original Message -----
From: <Ereskanti@***.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Dragons


> In a message dated 10/27/1999 12:18:58 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> anders@**********.com writes:
>
> > > Actually, please do.
> > >
> > OK, but you guys have by your request insulated
Message no. 7
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:31:40 +0200
From qwksilvr@*****.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:52:23 -0500
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:52:23 -0500
From: Quicksilver qwksilvr@*****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?

At 02:45 PM 10/26/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Heyo,
>
>This question is for anyone who attended Gen Con in 1997.
>
>Did FASA hand out the 2057 Election badges, the NERPS
>Inauguration badge, and the Dunkelzahn Memorial Service badge
>to all comers, or did you have to be someone special to get
>'em?

The Inauguration and Memorial services badges were handed out during the
FASA run, three round SR tournament. They were actaually, sort of,
character props - the first round you were working security during the
Ball, the second round was of course following the death of the President.
Unfortunately, our team did not make it to the third round so I do not know
what, if anything, was handed out to the character/players there.
Hope that helps.

Hg

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Message no. 8
From: Quicksilver qwksilvr@*****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:52:23 -0500
At 07:21 PM 10/26/99 -0700, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: abortion_engine <abortion_engine@*******.com>
>To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:59 AM
>Subject: Re: Dragons
>
>
> > > > Dragons have such silly names. What's next? BuffaloWing? ;)
>ToasterOven?
> > >
> > > I won't tell you how silly the derivation of Hestaby is. --Anders
> > >
> > Actually, please do.
> >
>OK, but you guys have by your request insulated and insured me againsed the
>dreaded THWAP.
>We needed a name for a Dragon in the Shasta area. Shasta is the name of a
>now defunct soft drink company in California. The slogan was "It Hasta be
>Shasta". Hence, with a vowel shift for anonymnity, "Hestaby".

LOL i remember that drink..hehe.





From vocenoctum@****.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:37:34 -0400
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:37:34 -0400
From: vocenoctum@****.com vocenoctum@****.com
Subjec
Message no. 9
From: Tony Glinka porthos@****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:30:15 -0700
As for other people getting a hold of them, I couldn't tell you how
they were officially given out, other than a contest prizes. :)

> So anyone who was there, or who knows for sure--which is
> it? And while I'm at it: Are there any more? I have
> Brackhaven, Yeats, Dunkelzahn, Vogel, Hernandez, Booth, the
> NERPs Inaugural, and the Dunkelzahn Memorial Service
> (which was definitely the hardest of the bunch to get).
> Am I missing any?

I believe you have them all. At least that is all of the ones I was
given and the only ones I have ever heard of.

Tony
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From strago@***.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:31:11 -0400
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:31:11 -0400
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Declining a run [Re: A question for all GMs out there]

Rand Ratinac wrote:

> > *Strago looks at Doc' cowering behind a door holding
> a quivering combat shotgun in his hand and laughs.
> Then he paints a yellow stripe down his back and runs
> away laughing.*
>
> *Doc' considers painting Strago's forehead and feet
> red with his shotty...heh heh heh...*
>

*Well then Strago turns around and sticks his tongue out at Doc' and
then pants's Doc' and then cries "I'm Blind!" and runs away again.*

>
> ====> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
>
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From dbuehrer@****.org Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:41:56 -0600
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:41:56 -0600
From: dbuehrer@****.org dbuehrer@****.org
Subject: Declining a run [Re: A question for all GMs out there]

Strago wrote:
\
Message no. 10
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:16:39 -0700
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From mlfrankl@***.com Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:17:45 -0400
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:17:45 -0400
From: Mike & Linda Frankl mlfrankl@***.com
Subject: White Wolf has been sold

A-E wrote:
> So if you happen to see a guy, wearing a black suit, with brown
> hair shaved
> on the sides [and looking remarkably slim :) ], please, please
> don't ask me
> if I want to play Vampire. And don't, ever, ask me if I want to go LARPing
> off into the night with you and your wierd teenage friends.
>
> [Apologies for the mature, non-toady people who play White Wolf
> games, but I
> think you understand that not all of the people who play the game
> you do are
> all there.]

I must agree with you on this one. It is understood that not all WoD players
fall into this category, but one must admit the environment does attract
those wispy, "I want you to fear me because I'm REALLY evil" types. After
studying the martial arts for many years I have learned (sometimes to my
surprise) that even very slight built people can be very effective. On the
other hand, we have these
Message no. 11
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
W
Message no. 12
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
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From gurth@******.nl Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Several Decking Questions

According to Kismet, at 13:51 on 27 Oct 99, the word on the street was...

> We've been playing Sr for about a year now, so I
> decided to try to Gm Decking. It was the worst gaming
> session failure ever.

Be glad you never tried the SRII decking rules... (SR1 was stomachable,
but the VR1/SRII rules, though very similar, made it MUCH worse.)

> 1. How can you reduce the Die Rolling? Geez! This hit
> our group particularly hard. We actually role play
> most situations and save die rolls for the combat
> situations. As the decker you roll for EVERYthing!

That's what I discovered, too, when I started playing my decker character.
I guess the best solution is to give good descriptions of what the system
looks like and what the decker is doing; the dicerolling becomes a bit
less prominent then, but you can't really avoid it, because almost every
action a decker takes involves rolling a C
Message no. 13
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:26:24 +0200
From: Ereskanti@***.com

> anders@**********.com writes:
> > now defunct soft drink company in California. The slogan was
> > "It Hasta be Shasta". Hence, with a vowel shift for anonymnity,
> > "Hestaby".

> Oh how utterly LAME!!!! ;-P

> Damn, and here I thought we were going to hear some neato, tweaked
> story about somebody's significant other (female or otherwise)...
> Anders, that almost completely wrecks my morning ... I wanted to hear
> something *really* goofy.

Well at least it saves us mythomaniacs hours of research into ancient
stories to find if it was an obscure reference :).
You can't believe how disappointed I was when I finally discovered at
the tender age of nine that the Necronomicon didn't exist; "So this
means that I can't summon one of the Elders to take my little sister
with them? Damn you all to hell!"
:)

Martin Steffens
e-mail: v-marts@******
Message no. 14
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:46:05 -0700
From mike_buckalew@*********.com Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:03:24 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:03:24 -0700
From: Mike Buckalew mike_buckalew@*********.com
Subject: Necronomicon (was RE: Dragons)

Martin Steffens posted:

> You can't believe how disappointed I was when I finally discovered at
> the tender age of nine that the Necronomicon didn't exist; "So this
> means that I can't summon one of the Elders to take my little sister
> with them? Damn you all to hell!"

It does exist, I have a copy in paperback that was a textbook in a college
course I took called "Psychopathology of the Occult". It was a great class
where the bulk of our time was spent watching horror movies.

When assigning the book list, the professor confessed that the spells in the
Necronomicon wouldn't work unless you used black candles and then proceeded
to tell us where the black candles could be bought.

I did a check on Amazon and here's the direct URL for ordering it from them:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0380751925/ref=sim_books/002-8901958-
7452258

Buck (Mi
Message no. 15
From: Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:08:59 -0500
If a person shoots randomly at a crowd, and would be shotting the mage,
that does not trigger "detect enemies". That implies to me that they
"enemy" must know who they have malicious intentions towards.







From leisnj48@****.cis.uwosh.edu Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:29:20 -0500
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:29:20 -0500
From: Jared Leisner leisnj48@****.cis.uwosh.edu
Subject: Monks

From: David Cordy <david.cordy@****.com>


>> You could make a "magiacian's way" adept. Still, your terms make
me
>> wonder if this was a Shadowrun question....
>>
>This sounds like it should have gone to a discussion list for D&D 3ed. The
>sender most likely got confused.
>But who (besides the send
Message no. 16
From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: '57 Election Badges - what's the deal?
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:56:13 -0500
They gave some of the badges as prizes to the first place team (And
possibly the second place team as well, I'm not sure. 2nd place tends to
get shafted at GC :( ), and most of the judges ended up with one or
two. The rest went to any of Granite's list bud's who were hanging around.

PS: As for the Election badges, they were used AFAIK in the 96 Tourney,
and probably ended up getting handed out in much the same manner as the
Corp Badges from this past years tourney. I know we had a handful of them
that we used at the Origins 98 tourney, since the first round of that took
place during the 57 election, so we were using them as a cheap "tone
setting" prop :] I had the Ann Penchyk/General Yeats one, though FASA
wanted to get those back since I think they were the last ones they had.

Bull -- Who wants to come up with something nifty like that for the O2K
Tournament and tourney participants :]

Bull
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From arcaist@*****.de Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:00:50 +0100
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:00:50 +0100
From: Arcaist arcaist@*****.de
Subject: Year of the Comet

The Cover of "Year of the Comet" seems to be ready:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1555603904/qid”1373794/sr=1-2
/002-5496012-4960267

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From Nitewing@********.de Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:22:11 +0100
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:22:11 +0100
From: Nitewing Nitewing@********.de
Subject: Initiative in SR3[comments and rule conversion]

Xyron answered

>> I would like to change some things, but its so easy to frighten my group
:P

>YOUR group? Need I remind you of who almost begged to join my (well, our)
group? :)

Well, I never said anything against that, but "my group" refers to "the
group I play with, or in", no offense Master M.

>> To Fixer: "You got APDS, or you know where to get any? Price doesn´t
matter"
>> The Group. (most of them) : "WHAT?? are you nuts?? The Gamebalance!!!"
>
> >So now you know what I mean
> >(Only thing to wonder about is, why our Rigger is alo

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