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Message no. 1
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:59:50 -0400
George Metz once dared to write,

> That brings up an interesting idea. What percentage of the essence for a
>smartlink would be the optic hookup? Honestly, I can't see where it would
>require a direct neural hookup, just the ability to throw a targeting dot in
>your field of vision. So, why shouldn't the main hookup part of the essence
>cost be capable of being included in cybereyes as part of the "free"
essence?
>Thoughts anyone?

I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.

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Message no. 2
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:36:34 EST
> I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link.
> What
> does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a
> display link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I
> think.

Actually, if you have a first edition SR book, look up the
description of the Smartgun (GUn side, not cyber side)...it will say
that it requires some form of input, and it lists a datajack as one
of them. :) For the longest time my characters never took a
smartgun link...why spend .5 essence when .2 will do?

This vanished in SRII however...
Message no. 3
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:43:25 +0100
In message <199708191400.KAA08584@*********.mindspring.com>, MC23
<mc23@**********.COM> writes
> I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
>does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
>link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.

But you'd only get +1, not +2, would be my opinion: smart goggles
without the goggles.

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Message no. 4
From: Jonathan Hurley <jhurley1@************.EDU>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:13:01 -0400
On Tuesday, August 19, 1997 13:43, Paul J.
Adam[SMTP:shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK] wrote:
> In message <199708191400.KAA08584@*********.mindspring.com>, MC23
> <mc23@**********.COM> writes
> > I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
> >does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
> >link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.
>
> But you'd only get +1, not +2, would be my opinion: smart goggles
> without the goggles.

I'm not sure about that. I'd require a display link, and possibly some sort
of SPU or headware memory to run the ballistic software on, but I'd give
the user of such a rig +2, simply because the datajack is a *two-way* data
channel, unlike a goggle-rig. I know one of my biggest problems in hitting
the target (with a rifle, anyway) was pulling the trigger without jerking
the weapon. A two-way data-path gives you the ability to electrically fire
the trigger, without messing around with muscle movement in the hand and
arm.
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deserve neither freedom nor security
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Jonathan Hurley (mailto:jhurley1@************.edu)
Message no. 5
From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117" <KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:18:13 -0500
You wrote:
> In message <199708191400.KAA08584@*********.mindspring.com>, MC23
> <mc23@**********.COM> writes
> > I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
> >does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
> >link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.

> But you'd only get +1, not +2, would be my opinion: smart goggles
> without the goggles.


I always thought a smartlink included an Expert system to help with the
aligning and to project where the bullet would hit (remember the 'no stray
rounds' benefit of smartlink, something has to be doing the work for that).

losthalo
Message no. 6
From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117" <KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:20:51 -0500
You wrote:
> > I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link.
> > What
> > does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a
> > display link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I
> > think.

> Actually, if you have a first edition SR book, look up the
> description of the Smartgun (GUn side, not cyber side)...it will say
> that it requires some form of input, and it lists a datajack as one
> of them. :) For the longest time my characters never took a
> smartgun link...why spend .5 essence when .2 will do?

> This vanished in SRII however...
Deliberately, I think. Personally, I liked he visual of a character plugging
his gun into his head (a lot of the early SR and CP artwork feature this
method of smartlink), but frankly, the palm induction system is a lot more
concealable when in use, no time spent plugging your gun in, either. But the
'plug-in' method has arguments in its favor, also, if you have a loooooong
cord. :)

losthalo
Message no. 7
From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:25:23 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-19 16:32:45 EDT, you write:

> > I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
> >does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
> >link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.
>
> But you'd only get +1, not +2, would be my opinion: smart goggles
> without the goggles.

No, you'd get a +2 bonus since a datajack interfaces with and can override
your normal sensory input. An overlay of a targeting dot is a simple matter.
BTW, there's a datajack Smartlink system in NERPS:Shadowlore.

Wolfstar, skeezed by a Sci-Fi Channel ad calling TSR a Master of
Fantasy<twitch>
Message no. 8
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 23:49:46 -0700
---"Wendy Wanders, Subject 117" wrote:
>
> I always thought a smartlink included an Expert system to help with
the
> aligning and to project where the bullet would hit (remember the 'no
stray
> rounds' benefit of smartlink, something has to be doing the work for
that).

Not to mention the fact you can control not firing at "friendlies"
when your walking a full-auto spray across a group.

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Message no. 9
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 12:47:13 +0100
MC23 said on 9:59/19 Aug 97...

> I've considered writing up a datajack version of a smart link. What
> does everyone think is required for it to work. A datajack and a display
> link would be enough of the cyber component for it to work I think.

That might be possible, I'm not sure. It mostly depends on whether the
system that processes where the aiming cross is to be projected, is in the
gun or in the user's head. If it's in the gun, then this setup would do,
IMHO, while if it's in the user then you need something more: you could
say it costs .25 Essence, namely for the part of the smartlink that's in
the user's head (see the "smartlink in cyberarm" thread) and then accepts
input through the user's datajack -- plug a cable into the smartlinked
gun, and the other end into the datajack, and you have a smartlink.

Alternatively, check out the Colt Frontline smartlink in NERPS:
ShadowLore.

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Message no. 10
From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117" <KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Combining Cyber (was: Re: Rigger 2)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:12:23 -0500
You wrote:
> Not to mention the fact you can control not firing at "friendlies"
> when your walking a full-auto spray across a group.
Ah, the wonders of new technology!
The new black magic, indeed.

losthalo

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