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Message no. 1
From: Phaeros Lostchilde <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Earthdawn/Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 07:51:51 -0600
OK, I don't know how many of you read rec.games.frp.misc, but there has been a
point raised there that Earthdawn and Shadowrun seem to have some correspondence
to each other. POints raised included Harlequin letting slip that the metaplane
was once known as the netherworld (Earthdawn's name for the astral plane) and
some other things that made it seem like Earthdawn was the Fourth World. If you
want to read for on this read rec.games.frp.misc, otherwise what do you guys
think of this? If true, are the horrors gonna be coming to Seattle soon?

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Message no. 2
From: Christopher Sean Jackson <jackson@*******.UTA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn/Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 15:13:59 CST
>
> OK, I don't know how many of you read rec.games.frp.misc, but there has been a
> point raised there that Earthdawn and Shadowrun seem to have some correspondence
> to each other. POints raised included Harlequin letting slip that the metaplane
> was once known as the netherworld (Earthdawn's name for the astral plane) and
> some other things that made it seem like Earthdawn was the Fourth World. If you
> want to read for on this read rec.games.frp.misc, otherwise what do you guys
> think of this? If true, are the horrors gonna be coming to Seattle soon?
>

Yeah, I heard rumblings about the idea @ origins. Ledgend has
it that Atlantis was the last time that magic came into ascendance.
Earthdawn takes place a cycle before that. The cycles are very long
(eg. our last low ebb took 3000 yrs.) However, yes, the horrors could
take your average mage and turn his brain into tofu. (BTW, after an
extended look @ Earthdawn, I wasn't nearly as impressed as w/ Shadowrun
IMHO *ONLY* :-)

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Message no. 3
From: "Bill P. Flint" <claymore@******.DIGEX.NET>
Subject: Earthdawn/Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 16:14:24 -0500
Someone recently posted a message saying the possible similarities between
shadowrun and earthdawn.

Well, I have seen a similarity between the two. I actually saw a colored
drawing in the earthdawn book that is a paranormal critter in the shadowrun
book,
"Paranormals of North America". It was the 'Man-of-the-woods'.

Where in the earthdawn source book? I don't know the exact page, but I do
remember it in one the color pages. The second set of color pages to be exact.
The paranormal has his back facing you, but the the shape is to similar to be
waved off as a chance happening.

People can check if this is true or if I was seeing things. This is might
already been noticed, but I stop reading the earthdawn cross overs a long time
ago.

--Bill Flint
Message no. 4
From: Lee Foster <shadowrner@***.COM>
Subject: Earthdawn/Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 19:27:40 EST
>>>OK, I don't know how many of you read rec.games.frp.misc, but there has
been a
point raised there that Earthdawn and Shadowrun seem to have some
correspondence
to each other. POints raised included Harlequin letting slip that the
metaplane
was once known as the netherworld (Earthdawn's name for the astral plane)
and
some other things that made it seem like Earthdawn was the Fourth World.
If you
want to read for on this read rec.games.frp.misc, otherwise what do you
guys
think of this? If true, are the horrors gonna be coming to Seattle
soon?<<<

I thought it was already common knowlege that they did correspond...But it's
all true...Earthdawn is suppose to take place around one of the earlier
cycles of magic. (Ya didn't think Shadowrun was the first did ya...) If you
look at the credits in the earthdawn book, you'll find my brothers name in it
as a playtester, Foster....
Also they're was another SRII flyer about an upcoming module which was a
story of Harlequin talking to some spirit or such about use mages useing
magic recklessly and it's all gonna happen again...So Harlequin calls in his
secretary to dig through his files and find a "Few Hero's".
Who knows...one too many Manabolt's and ya could end up with a horror in yer
head....

---L8tr,
---Shadowrner@***.com
Message no. 5
From: Erik <EHULTGRE@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn/Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 18:33:19 EST
Please excuse my ignorance, but who exactly is Harlequin?? I only remember one
reference to him, and that was in First Edition. In that, he was just some
goob who botched a summoning and died. Wrong harlequin??
-Warlok
Message no. 6
From: Walker George <F8AE@*******.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 21:37:35 CST
Can anyone tell me if there is any substance behind the rumors that
there is a connection between Shadowrun and Earthdawn? If so, what
is it? I want all the juicy details!

-Finster
Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:15:57 +0200
>Can anyone tell me if there is any substance behind the rumors that
>there is a connection between Shadowrun and Earthdawn? If so, what
>is it? I want all the juicy details!

I think there's something on the Eartdawn web page... anyway it gets posted
to this list sometimes as well.


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Message no. 8
From: Jani Fikouras <feanor@**********.UNI-BREMEN.DE>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:38:47 +0200
> Can anyone tell me if there is any substance behind the rumors that
> there is a connection between Shadowrun and Earthdawn? If so, what
> is it? I want all the juicy details!

Sradowrun is the future of Earthdawn - Shadowrun being the sixth age
our modern world the fifth and Earthdawin the fourth. As gurth said
you can find a complete list of the links between the two systems on the
earthdawn WWW page.

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Message no. 9
From: Menard Steve <menars@***.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:51:15 -0400
On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Jani Fikouras wrote:

> > Can anyone tell me if there is any substance behind the rumors that
> > there is a connection between Shadowrun and Earthdawn? If so, what
> > is it? I want all the juicy details!
>
> Sradowrun is the future of Earthdawn - Shadowrun being the sixth age
> our modern world the fifth and Earthdawin the fourth. As gurth said
> you can find a complete list of the links between the two systems on the
> earthdawn WWW page.
>
> --
> "Believe in Angels." -- The Crow
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> M-- !V(--) -po+(---) Y+ t++ 5++ R+++ tv b++ e+ u++(-) h*(+) f+ r- n!(-)=
y?
>

Good, now could you tell us what is the URL of this page?

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Message no. 10
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 13:29:49 -0400
On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Menard Steve wrote:

> Good, now could you tell us what is the URL of this page?

It is in part II of the ShadowRN FAQ. And since it's the best
page of its kind in the world, there are links to it from every /other/
Shadowrun page you'll come across -- including mine, below. (Why memorize
URL's if they link off your own pages? *grin*)
And, of course, it's in Paolo's .signature file.

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Message no. 11
From: Chris Ryan <chrisr@****.QUT.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:17:11 --1000
> > Good, now could you tell us what is the URL of this page?
>
> It is in part II of the ShadowRN FAQ. And since it's the best
> page of its kind in the world, there are links to it from every /other/
> Shadowrun page you'll come across -- including mine, below. (Why memorize
> URL's if they link off your own pages? *grin*)
> And, of course, it's in Paolo's .signature file.

Actually, it doesn't seem to be anywhere on your or Paolo's pages...

The Earthdawn material is stashed at my site... Check my signature
for the URL...

Chris

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Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:56:20 +0200
> It is in part II of the ShadowRN FAQ. And since it's the best
>page of its kind in the world, there are links to it from every /other/
>Shadowrun page you'll come across -- including mine, below. (Why memorize
>URL's if they link off your own pages? *grin*)
> And, of course, it's in Paolo's .signature file.

Err, I think he was referring to the URL of the Earthdawn page, not the
Shadowrun one run by Paolo... Anyway it's
http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/~chrisr/earthdawn.html


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Message no. 13
From: P Ward <P.Ward@**.CF.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:38:08 BST
Hey, this earthdawn page isn't working....

Do I have the wrong URL, or is access limited?

Phil (Runs-With-The-Pack
who believes the Earthdawn URL is:
http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/%chrisr/earthdawn.html
Message no. 14
From: "J.D." <jdfalk@****.CAIS.COM>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:33:38 -0400
On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, P Ward wrote:

> Do I have the wrong URL, or is access limited?

From the ShadowRN FAQ, Part II:

Address: http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/~chrisr
Contact: Chris Ryan <chrisr@****.qut.edu.au>
Info Updated: 02-06-1995
Notes: Mostly contains Earthdawn information, including the
FAQ for the Earthdawn mailing list (see below) and some
info on tie-ins between Earthdawn and Shadowrun.

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Message no. 15
From: Craig S Dohmen <dohmen@*******.CSE.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:50:18 -0400
On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, J.D. wrote:

> Address: http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/~chrisr

Apparently, Penn State's machines can't figure out the address. Does
anyone know the IP number? Chris?

--Craig
Message no. 16
From: ATREIDE - Aymeric RICHARD <arichard@****.IRESTE.FR>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 1980 07:28:47 +0100
P Ward wrote :

> Hey, this earthdawn page isn't working....
>
> Do I have the wrong URL, or is access limited?
>
> Phil (Runs-With-The-Pack
> who believes the Earthdawn URL is:
> http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/%chrisr/earthdawn.html
>

http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/~chrisr/earthdawn.html
is working from here (France)

if you tried http://www.icis.qut.edu.au/%chrisr/earthdawn.html
you will not access anything : this is ~chrisr not %chrisr


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Message no. 17
From: ATREIDE - Aymeric RICHARD <arichard@****.IRESTE.FR>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn<--->Shadowrun
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 1980 08:14:17 +0100
> Apparently, Penn State's machines can't figure out the address. Does
> anyone know the IP number? Chris?
>
> --Craig

Try http://131.181.70.41/~chrisr/earthdawn.html

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Message no. 18
From: TopCat <topcat@**.CENCOM.NET>
Subject: Earthdawn ==> Shadowrun ==> ???
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 13:39:23 -0500
BATTLETECH!!!!

Cyber wins!!!
Cyber wins!!!
Cyber wins!!!

All those metas crawl up and die!

All those countless hours of magic rules discussion pointless because it all
goes away while tech keeps moving on!!

-- TopCat
Who's been giggling over this for a few months now and finally decided to
let the rest of ya know why...
Message no. 19
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Earthdawn ==> Shadowrun ==> ???
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 11:02:20 +0100
TopCat said on 6 Oct 95...

> BATTLETECH!!!!

Reminds me: does anyone know of a BattleTech mailing list? Devoted to the
boardgame I mean, not to the VR game (or at least not completely).

[snip]

> -- TopCat
> Who's been giggling over this for a few months now and finally decided to
> let the rest of ya know why...

Or who might be better off playing another game entirely for a while, just
to cool down a bit...

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Message no. 20
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: Earthdawn <-> Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:36:55 +0200
Hail Runners,...

Okay, some of you have been talking about Earthdawn and Horrors and Invae or
something. My question is, how does this tie in with Shadowrun? The only
thing I could conclude from the posts about earthdawn was that Invae are the
same as Insect spirits and that Horrors are like Uber-Insect Spirits. I
dunno,....HELP!

Dennis

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Message no. 21
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Earthdawn <-> Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:05:12 EDT
In a message dated 7/26/99 6:42:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dv8@********.nl
writes:

> Hail Runners,...
>
> Okay, some of you have been talking about Earthdawn and Horrors and Invae
or
> something. My question is, how does this tie in with Shadowrun? The only
> thing I could conclude from the posts about earthdawn was that Invae are
the
> same as Insect spirits and that Horrors are like Uber-Insect Spirits. I
> dunno,....HELP!
>
> Dennis


Earthdawn was the Fourth World, current is the Fifth, Shadowrun is the Sixth.
Earthdawn was effectively a prequel to Shadowrun. It is the rumored magical
past of Shadowrun, often discussed by dragons and IEs and hinted at again and
again. The insect spirits were not a central part of ED, they appeared
before the Scourge occured and thus hundreds of years before the ED timeline.
Harlequin calls them the Invae in HB, which I assume is their ED name. The
Horrors are not insect spirits, they are extra-dimensional demons from
metaplanes so far removed it takes thousands of years for the magic level to
rise high enough for them to cross over.





-Twist
Message no. 22
From: Jeremy Baker meroeandjeremy@*******.com.au
Subject: Earthdawn <-> Shadowrun
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:27:32 +1000
>Okay, some of you have been talking about Earthdawn and Horrors and Invae
or
>something. My question is, how does this tie in with Shadowrun? The only
>thing I could conclude from the posts about earthdawn was that Invae are
the
>same as Insect spirits and that Horrors are like Uber-Insect Spirits. I
>dunno,....HELP!


As I mentioned in one of my posts (which may or may not have got
through) there have been multiple sources over time that indicate the the
Earthdawn Setting is set in the waning of the Fourth (or possibly, but
unlikely the Second) World. Shadowrun is set in the Sixth World. (We are
currently marooned in the low magic Fifth World.) Again there have been many
sources that indicate that the Horrors/Invae, who are the major enemy in
Earthdawn, can, will and have returned to the world now that magic has also
returned.

JB.
Message no. 23
From: Stefan casanova@***.passagen.se
Subject: Earthdawn <-> Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:23:51 +0000
Twist said:

> Earthdawn was the Fourth World, current is the Fifth, Shadowrun is the Sixth.
> Earthdawn was effectively a prequel to Shadowrun. It is the rumored magical
> past of Shadowrun, often discussed by dragons and IEs and hinted at again and
> again. The insect spirits were not a central part of ED, they appeared
> before the Scourge occured and thus hundreds of years before the ED timeline.
> Harlequin calls them the Invae in HB, which I assume is their ED name. The
> Horrors are not insect spirits, they are extra-dimensional demons from
> metaplanes so far removed it takes thousands of years for the magic level to
> rise high enough for them to cross over.

One thing I have never been really sure of (only one ?) is:

Are the "enemy" and the horrors of ED the same ? Are the enemy
horrors or just some other extra dimensional alien intent on killing.

I always assumed that they where somewhat the same but for some
reason this question triggered some wondering. Anybody have a good
answer to that ?

stefan


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Message no. 24
From: Twist0059@***.com Twist0059@***.com
Subject: Earthdawn <-> Shadowrun
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:31:58 EDT
In a message dated 7/29/99 7:24:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
casanova@***.passagen.se writes:

> One thing I have never been really sure of (only one ?) is:
>
> Are the "enemy" and the horrors of ED the same ? Are the enemy
> horrors or just some other extra dimensional alien intent on killing.
>
> I always assumed that they where somewhat the same but for some
> reason this question triggered some wondering. Anybody have a good
> answer to that ?
>
> stefan


The Enemy are Horrors. I think Harlequin just calls them the "Enemy" to
avoid confusing the hapless runners further. Afterall, they are the enemy of
all life. Enemies, if you prefer.





-Twist
Message no. 25
From: Simon Fuller sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:50:46 +1000
This was on the Living Room Games web site, the mob who are going to be
producing Earthdawn now. (In the US only : ( )

15q: Will Earthdawn and Shadowrun still be linked?

In a word, Yes. We will be working closely with FASA
to keep this relationship going. However, since
Shadowrun has been active for the last year, and
Earthdawn has just now started again, don't expect
a lot of dragon and immortal elf stuff from
Shadowrun for the next year or two at least. We will
be attempting cross-game plot lines, but not for a
while yet.
Message no. 26
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:10:56 EDT
In a message dated 4/21/00 7:38:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
sfuller@******.com.au writes:

> 15q: Will Earthdawn and Shadowrun still be linked?
>
> In a word, Yes. We will be working closely with FASA
> to keep this relationship going. However, since
> Shadowrun has been active for the last year, and
> Earthdawn has just now started again, don't expect
> a lot of dragon and immortal elf stuff from
> Shadowrun for the next year or two at least. We will
> be attempting cross-game plot lines, but not for a
> while yet.

Oh this should be an incredibly interesting twist to find out about from the
other end of things. Wonder what's up that LRG would post this?

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Message no. 27
From: Tony Rabiola argent1@****.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:25:16 -0500
> > 15q: Will Earthdawn and Shadowrun still be linked?
> >
> > In a word, Yes. We will be working closely with FASA
> > to keep this relationship going. However, since
> > Shadowrun has been active for the last year, and
> > Earthdawn has just now started again, don't expect
> > a lot of dragon and immortal elf stuff from
> > Shadowrun for the next year or two at least. We will
> > be attempting cross-game plot lines, but not for a
> > while yet.
>
> Oh this should be an incredibly interesting twist to find out
about from the
> other end of things. Wonder what's up that LRG would post
this?
>

Considering the way the current DLOH feels about such things,
doubly so! Maybe LRG gets to produce all the immortal
elves/horror/crossover stuff, too....::grin::

Argent
Message no. 28
From: HHackerH@***.com HHackerH@***.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 05:04:51 EDT
In a message dated Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:22:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Tony
Rabiola" <argent1@****.com> writes:

> Considering the way the current DLOH feels about such things,
> doubly so! Maybe LRG gets to produce all the immortal
> elves/horror/crossover stuff, too....::grin::

(*thinks for just a moment what kind of headaches this would produce for any
line-developer's job... especially in light of other stories he's heard behind the
scenes.... sits down, lights up an Aztlaner Gold(TM) cigarette and watches all the
non-realistic, obviously entertaining, fireworks ensue...*)

-K

>
> Argent
Message no. 29
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:49:15 +1000
At 10:50 2000-04-22 +1000, Simon Fuller wrote:
>This was on the Living Room Games web site, the mob who are going to be
>producing Earthdawn now. (In the US only : ( )

When you say "in the US only", what exactly do you mean? It's not going to
any overseas distributors?

(Yes, I know this was a thread from days ago - I'm only just now catching
up with some of my email; I've been busy writing. *sigh*)

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

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Message no. 30
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:38:17 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*********.html.com>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Earthdawn+Shadowrun


>At 10:50 2000-04-22 +1000, Simon Fuller wrote:
>>This was on the Living Room Games web site, the mob who are going to be
>>producing Earthdawn now. (In the US only : ( )
>
>When you say "in the US only", what exactly do you mean? It's not going to
>any overseas distributors?
>
>(Yes, I know this was a thread from days ago - I'm only just now catching
>up with some of my email; I've been busy writing. *sigh*)
>
>Lady Jestyr
> ~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~
>
>* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
>
I do not envy you looking through days of Smartlinked Bows postings :?)
I emailed someone at LRGames (this was before the great Crash of '00, so I
no longer have a copy of it) about Australian distribution, and the answer
was that for the time being there will be no distribution outside of the US.
They are just too small an operation right now. I am hoping that my main
source of role playing games, the Military Simulations catalogue, will
import some (big $$$ price if they do). A lot of Earthdawn stuff is still
available from FASA, by the way, they have warehouses full of the stuff and
no buyers know about it.
Message no. 31
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:11:15 +1000
At 09:38 2000-04-28 +1000, Simon and Fiona wrote:

>>>This was on the Living Room Games web site, the mob who are going to be
>>>producing Earthdawn now. (In the US only : ( )
>>
>>When you say "in the US only", what exactly do you mean? It's not going
to
>>any overseas distributors?
>>
>>(Yes, I know this was a thread from days ago - I'm only just now catching
>>up with some of my email; I've been busy writing. *sigh*)
>>
>I do not envy you looking through days of Smartlinked Bows postings :?)

It was... fun. No, really.

>I emailed someone at LRGames (this was before the great Crash of '00, so I
>no longer have a copy of it) about Australian distribution, and the answer
>was that for the time being there will be no distribution outside of the US.
>They are just too small an operation right now.

Pah. They're just not trying. There are good, cheap distributors out there
who would probably carry the thing internationally for them - Wizard's
Attic comes to mind; there are probably others as well.

Given that FASA's products have always been popular outside the US, I think
LRG are shooting themselves in the foot here.

>I am hoping that my main
>source of role playing games, the Military Simulations catalogue, will
>import some (big $$$ price if they do).

Indubitably, but MilSims are pretty good.

>A lot of Earthdawn stuff is still
>available from FASA, by the way, they have warehouses full of the stuff and
>no buyers know about it.

Now they do.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

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Message no. 32
From: Damian Sharp zadoc@***.neu.edu
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:37:50 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Lady Jestyr wrote:

> Pah. They're just not trying. There are good, cheap distributors out there
> who would probably carry the thing internationally for them - Wizard's
> Attic comes to mind; there are probably others as well.
>
> Given that FASA's products have always been popular outside the US, I think
> LRG are shooting themselves in the foot here.

Actually, I seem to recall them saying they don't have rights to the game
outside the US. As I recall, there was a German company that had intended
to keep on producing Earthdawn stuff, even if FASA didn't, though it would
all only be in German.

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Message no. 33
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: Earthdawn+Shadowrun
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:27:30 -0400
From: "Lady Jestyr" <jestyr@*********.html.com>
> At 09:38 2000-04-28 +1000, Simon and Fiona wrote:
> >I emailed someone at LRGames (this was before the great Crash of '00, so
I
> >no longer have a copy of it) about Australian distribution, and the
answer
> >was that for the time being there will be no distribution outside of the
US.
> >They are just too small an operation right now.
>
> Pah. They're just not trying. There are good, cheap distributors out there
> who would probably carry the thing internationally for them - Wizard's
> Attic comes to mind; there are probably others as well.
>
> Given that FASA's products have always been popular outside the US, I
think
> LRG are shooting themselves in the foot here.

Well, let 'em know! Their url is http://www.lrgames.com/, and they're a
bunch of *very* good guys. Jason will be more than happy to talk *with* [not
just *to*] you about this, and he's very anxious to get suggestions. If you
e-mail Jason at his lrgames address, it's info@*******.com. Good luck!

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