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Message no. 1
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:32 -0500
Now that AOL's gotten you back online, and your workload has crept down to
only unmanageable, I'm going to fire this at you. For many of these we've
had speculation, but the books don't provide answers.(some are fresh!) If
I'm lucky, you might declare that some of these don't fall into the "mystery
is fun" category :)

1)What happens when an Elemental Goes out of LOS of the mage?
2)What is the Build Point cost of Otaku?
3)Do Otaku start with a free Datajack, or must they buy one with their
meager funds?
4)CAn you sustain a spell if the target move out of LOS?
5)Can nature spirits use more than one power simultaneously?
6)Is the new Astral Sight Edge FULL astral perception?
7)Can a Quickening be used as a ritual link or to track the caster?
8)Can you mask sustained or quickened spells?
9)Does masking a spell lock mask the spell it locks too?
10)Does the Astral Patrolling option in the Grimoire count as a remote
service, or a normal service?

I've got more, but lets look at these...

-=SwiftOne=-

I Have Fun!
I Play Games!
I buy Shadowrun!
Message no. 2
From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:31:34 -0800
>1)What happens when an Elemental Goes out of LOS of the mage?
>2)What is the Build Point cost of Otaku?
>3)Do Otaku start with a free Datajack, or must they buy one with their
>meager funds?
>4)CAn you sustain a spell if the target move out of LOS?
>5)Can nature spirits use more than one power simultaneously?
>6)Is the new Astral Sight Edge FULL astral perception?
>7)Can a Quickening be used as a ritual link or to track the caster?
>8)Can you mask sustained or quickened spells?
>9)Does masking a spell lock mask the spell it locks too?
>10)Does the Astral Patrolling option in the Grimoire count as a remote
>service, or a normal service?

LOL!
FASAMike is going to /love/ this. I mean, this is the guy who walked into
the SR Rules Q&A at GenCon last year and opened up with a statement to the
effect that he wasn't a real "rules person" and that, oftimes, he forgets
the damage code of his own gun.

With that in mind, I'm sure he'll be able to rattle off clear, logical
and game-balanced answers to all ten questions above no problem. It'll
be waiting for you before you go home today. :-P

Assuming that you haven't put him back on the machine that goes... PING,
of course.

:-)

- youngin'
Message no. 3
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:55:17 -0500
> FASAMike is going to /love/ this. I mean, this is the guy who walked into
>the SR Rules Q&A at GenCon last year and opened up with a statement to the
>effect that he wasn't a real "rules person" and that, oftimes, he forgets
>the damage code of his own gun.

Oh, well....the questions I asked were more of a "is it possible to..." type
than a "what is the modifier for..." type.

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 4
From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:07:08 -0800
>Oh, well....the questions I asked were more of a "is it possible to..." type
>than a "what is the modifier for..." type.

Yeah, I know. I'm just having some fun at poor Mike's expense. :-)

On a random note, I /believe/ (don't hold me to this - I'd have to do
extensive research ;-) that you can sustain spells out of LOS. Of all
of the questions, it was the one I went "sure" to. And I seem to remember
reading something somewhere in the books that led me to believe that.

Oh well, YMMV.

- Brett
Message no. 5
From: Ashelock <woneal@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 07:59:09 -0005
Poor Mike...

On 6 Feb 97 at 20:17, Brett Borger wrote:

> 1)What happens when an Elemental Goes out of LOS of the mage?
(umm... I'd like to know myself actually)
> 2)What is the Build Point cost of Otaku?
> 3)Do Otaku start with a free Datajack, or must they buy one with their
> meager funds?
> 4)CAn you sustain a spell if the target move out of LOS?
Yes, you only need LOS to the target to synchronize the aura's and lock
the spell onto them. Once that's done LOS and distance don't matter. If
this were not the case then Ritual Sorcery would not be possible. Also
note, you have to be able to see more than just a piece of the targets
aura to target them. Check the explanation in the Black Book (SRII) p149.
.
> 5)Can nature spirits use more than one power simultaneously?
> 6)Is the new Astral Sight Edge FULL astral perception?
Only if you pay the appropriate magic priority, that is A or B. Yes this
will give a Sorcerer Adept astral perception, as well as a Conjuring
Adept, and Physical Mages too.

>7 )Can a Quickening be used as a ritual link or to track the caster?
I don't see how you could. Oh, wait I get it, your thinking of cases
where a mage quikens a spell on something else, an object or place that
you get control of. Hmm... not directly, it doesn't have a direct connection
to the magician. However, it would contain the magicains signature,
perhaps you could use that to locate them, a sort of symbolic/
sympathetic link.

> 8)Can you mask sustained or quickened spells?
I'd really like to see something official on this myself, but I'd say
it's a safe bet that yes you can.

> 9)Does masking a spell lock mask the spell it locks too?
Probably only if the spell is inactive, if you've "turned it on" you'd
probably have to mask both.

>10)Does the Astral Patrolling option in the Grimoire count as a remote service,
> or a normal service?
>

--

Ashelock
mailto:woneal@*******.net

"They say it's a brave new world we're building. I say they're right,
and we'll all have to be pretty brave to live in it."
Message no. 6
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:32:44 -0500
Ashelock enlightened us with these words of wisdom:
>> 6)Is the new Astral Sight Edge FULL astral perception?
> Only if you pay the appropriate magic priority, that is A or B.
Yes this
>will give a Sorcerer Adept astral perception, as well as a Conjuring
>Adept, and Physical Mages too.

The debate about this was that it made the Astral Perception power of the
Phys ad ridiculous to actually buy. One guy went so far as to say that
since it was Astral _Sight_, only the eyes went astral....(which led to a
"can we manabolt his eyes then" discussion)

>>7 )Can a Quickening be used as a ritual link or to track the caster?
> I don't see how you could. Oh, wait I get it, your thinking of cases
>where a mage quikens a spell on something else, an object or place that
>you get control of. Hmm... not directly, it doesn't have a direct connection
>to the magician. However, it would contain the magicains signature,

Well....you spend Karma on a Spell lock, and then it is a link to
you.....How about Quickening...

>perhaps you could use that to locate them, a sort of symbolic/
>sympathetic link.
Thus my question....Perhaps yes or Perhaps no?

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 7
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:44:07 -0500
In a message dated 2/6/97 11:45:18 PM, Brett Borger wrote:

>Now that AOL's gotten you back online, and your workload has crept down to
>only unmanageable, I'm going to fire this at you. For many of these we've
>had speculation, but the books don't provide answers.(some are fresh!) If
>I'm lucky, you might declare that some of these don't fall into the "mystery
>is fun" category :)

<SNIP list of questions>

I have a back log of responses to the mailing list that I promised. I will
get to these after those. Please don't hold your breath or I fear you will
turn blue and die.

Have Fun!
Play Games!
Always Looking After the Health of SR players!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 8
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:05:15 -0500
>I have a back log of responses to the mailing list that I promised. I will
>get to these after those. Please don't hold your breath or I fear you will
>turn blue and die.

ack! glah! urck! <THUD>

dhgsfdgn;w4 t0 v2;t c4taqv.,.jggal/dfg vse
....

--ERROR: User Not Found, disconnecting....

NO CARRIER
Message no. 9
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:55:24 -0500
In a message dated 2/7/97 05:33:21 AM, Brett wrote:

> FASAMike is going to /love/ this. I mean, this is the guy who walked into
>the SR Rules Q&A at GenCon last year and opened up with a statement to the
>effect that he wasn't a real "rules person" and that, oftimes, he forgets
>the damage code of his own gun.

Clarification:

What was meant by this was that (and what I meant at GenCon and explained
after I made this statement) was that I always have to look stuff up. I never
"make rules up" tossing off wierd calculations off the top of my head. Every
question gets reaserched because I hate getting it wrong. I'm always looking
up damge codes and such because I don't want to embarress myself by getting
it wrong. I thought you might like a bit more info on my statement...Reading
it here it makes me sound like I'm a bozo.

Have Fun!
Play Games!
Where's My Red Wig and Big Red Nose!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 10
From: Brett Barksdale <brett@***.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:50:46 -0800
I wrote:

>> FASAMike is going to /love/ this. I mean, this is the guy who walked into
>>the SR Rules Q&A at GenCon last year and opened up with a statement to the
>>effect that he wasn't a real "rules person" and that, oftimes, he
forgets
>>the damage code of his own gun.

Then FASAMike wrote:

>Clarification:
>
>What was meant by this was that (and what I meant at GenCon and explained
>after I made this statement) was that I always have to look stuff up. I never
>"make rules up" tossing off wierd calculations off the top of my head. Every
>question gets reaserched because I hate getting it wrong. I'm always looking
>up damge codes and such because I don't want to embarress myself by getting
>it wrong. I thought you might like a bit more info on my statement...Reading
>it here it makes me sound like I'm a bozo.

Sorry about that. It wasn't intended to be insulting. I was just joking
about what was a formidable list of questions posted all at once for
your consideration. Questions that were certainly going to take /anyone/ a
while to answer - much less someone who gave that opening line at GenCon.
If I insulted you, I apologize. (Although the big-shoe-and-red-nose look
might be good for you... ;-)

On a more serious note, I /did/ have some reservations about the rules
Q&A at the last GenCon. Is there a way to get a bigger block of time
for a more "serious" seminar? At the time, I was disappointed that you
didn't wheel in a cart with every SR rulebook ever made and get "down
and dirty". In retrospect, however, I realized that in such a short seminar,
one good question - discussed in the detail that I was looking for - could
easily take up all of the time. And you need to entertain more than one question
per seminar. (Or do you? :-)

A rules Q&A that took up an entire event slot would, IMHO, be a worthwhile
event to participate in. We would be able to take out our lists of tough
questions (like the one that started this thread) and really examine them.

- Brett
Message no. 11
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:10:18 -0700
Mike Mulvihill wrote:
|
| Clarification:
|
| What was meant by this was that (and what I meant at GenCon and explained
| after I made this statement) was that I always have to look stuff up. I never
| "make rules up" tossing off wierd calculations off the top of my head. Every
| question gets reaserched because I hate getting it wrong. I'm always looking
| up damge codes and such because I don't want to embarress myself by getting
| it wrong.

Gee, where's the fun in that :) I sure hope you don't
expect the listmembers to live up to that standard. Not
that I don't try my best to quote a rule correctly, but...
<chanting to self> (grenades are D, grenades are D,
grenades are..)

| I thought you might like a bit more info on my statement...Reading
| it here it makes me sound like I'm a bozo.

<in a friendly voice> FASAMike, if you never make a mistake
on this list I'm going to start wondering which planet your
from :) While I understand that you are SR's
representative, I don't expect you to be perfect when
responding to rules questions, no more than I expect you to
have perfect spelling (boy, wouldn't that be *embarressing*
;).

Heck even Gurth and Sascha make mistakes <edges towards his
stairs>. Join the club and learn the art of asking for
forgiveness :)

P.S. You get a healthy ammount of respect from me for
having reached the esteemed position of SR Line Developer.

-David-who's-just-a-crummy-supervisor :(

P.P.S This was not a flame.
--
/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~
Message no. 12
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:56:33 -0500
><in a friendly voice> FASAMike, if you never make a mistake on this list I'm
>going to start wondering which planet your from :) While I understand that you
>are SR's representative, I don't expect you to be perfect when responding to
>rules questions, no more than I expect you to have perfect spelling (boy,
>wouldn't that be *embarressing*
>;).

<also in a friendly voice>Well, he already made a mistake on FAB, which he
quickly retracted. I'd prefer it if that was his last, too...

While for anyone else on the list, I'd say post away, for FASAMike's comments,
which become "cannon", personally I'd rather say: "If you are not sure,
keep
quiet till you are" So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 13
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:03:01 -0500
><also in a friendly voice>Well, he already made a mistake on FAB, which he
>quickly retracted. I'd prefer it if that was his last, too...

What was the mistake, and what was the retraction?

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 14
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:27:00 -0500
>><also in a friendly voice>Well, he already made a mistake on FAB, which he
>>quickly retracted. I'd prefer it if that was his last, too...
>
>What was the mistake, and what was the retraction?
>
>-=SwiftOne=-

Well, I checked my personal "archive" and it was back in september, and he
didn't actually post it to the list (he wasn't a member yet), it was a reply to personal
email which was forwarded to the list.

Here is a heavily snipped replay that doesn't really give you much feel for the
issues or the tone of the FAB debate, but shows his retraction:

>Thomas -
>
>You have actively hurt my head...
>
<snip>
>>Is FAB astrally active?
>
>Yes
>
>>Is FAB dual-natured?
>
>Yes
>
>>Is FAB mundane?
>
>No
>

Followed by:

>Gentelmen - I screwed up royally....
>
>Here are the correct answers.
>>Is FAB astrally active?
>
>NO!!! This is the correct answer...
>
>>Is FAB dual-natured?
>
>NO!!! This is the correct answer...again
>
>>Is FAB mundane?
>
>Yes...it must be...it has to be...or everything I believe in will collapse...
>
>OK that may be a bit too strong but hopefully this will make more sense.
>
>Mike Mulvihill
>Shadowrun Line Developer
>FASA
>See our web page at www.fasa.com
Message no. 15
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:01:41 -0500
At 03:56 PM 2/10/97 -0500, Mike Elkins babbled:
><also in a friendly voice>Well, he already made a mistake on FAB, which he
>quickly retracted. I'd prefer it if that was his last, too...
>
>While for anyone else on the list, I'd say post away, for FASAMike's
comments,
>which become "cannon",
>
So you're saying that Mike's comments are all weapons designed to fire
large, metal balls or shells? :)

I think you mean Canon...:)

personally I'd rather say: "If you are not sure, keep
>quiet till you are" So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.
>
Agreed... And we appreciate you extrfemely, Mike...:)

>Double-Domed Mike
>
Steve
--
Now the Fearless Leader of the New Star Wars Mailing List!

=======================================================
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= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

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-Kom, "Outlanders"
Message no. 16
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:07:15 -0700
Mike Elkins wrote:
|
| So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.

Considering the volume of this list, FASAMike has been
doing an outstanding job.

-David
--
/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~
Message no. 17
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:35:51 -0700
> From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
> I thought you might like a bit more info on my statement...Reading
> it here it makes me sound like I'm a bozo.
> Where's My Red Wig and Big Red Nose!

Not to go OT or anything..But That show still runs in parts of the
South...
-------------------------------GRANITE
=================================================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
Message no. 18
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:26:03 +0100
David Buehrer said on 12:10/10 Feb 97...

> Heck even Gurth and Sascha make mistakes

In my case, I'd say that has to do with not playing much SR in recent
months... I'll need to get back in shape, maybe re-read all those SR books
I've had for years *thinking up exhaustive training program*...

> P.S. You get a healthy ammount of respect from me for having reached
> the esteemed position of SR Line Developer.
>
> -David-who's-just-a-crummy-supervisor :(

Isn't Mike as well, just of a different kind? :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Standing on the sideline watching the show.
-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-

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Message no. 19
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 06:02:08 -0500
At 11:26 AM 2/11/97 +0100, Gurth babbled:
>> P.S. You get a healthy ammount of respect from me for having reached
>> the esteemed position of SR Line Developer.
>>
>> -David-who's-just-a-crummy-supervisor :(
>
>Isn't Mike as well, just of a different kind? :)
>
Well... He may be a supervisor, but I'd wouldn't say he was crummy... <he
says in his best suck-up voice>

:] <-- Ork Grin

Bull
--
Now the Fearless Leader of the New Star Wars Mailing List!

=======================================================
= Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich =
= chaos@*****.com =
= "Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours?" =
=======================================================

"I finally find a guy I like, and you got to go and kill him!"
-Kom, "Outlanders"
Message no. 20
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:57:49 +0100
Brett Borger said on 19:03/10 Feb 97...

> ><also in a friendly voice>Well, he already made a mistake on FAB, which he
> >quickly retracted. I'd prefer it if that was his last, too...
>
> What was the mistake, and what was the retraction?

Basically, he first told us FAB worked one way -- which was just about the
total opposite of what most of us thought it did -- and after doing some
more research, he turned through 180 degrees.

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-> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
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Message no. 21
From: Ashelock <woneal@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 06:03:03 -0005
On 7 Feb 97 at 21:32, Brett Borger wrote:

> Ashelock enlightened us with these words of wisdom:

>
> >>7 )Can a Quickening be used as a ritual link or to track the caster?
> > I don't see how you could. Oh, wait I get it, your thinking of
> > cases
> >where a mage quikens a spell on something else, an object or place that
> >you get control of. Hmm... not directly, it doesn't have a direct
> >connection to the magician. However, it would contain the magicains
> >signature,
>
> Well....you spend Karma on a Spell lock, and then it is a link to
> you.....How about Quickening...
Not the same here. With a spell lock it creates a link... dare I say
"thread"... leading straight back to the magician. Quickening doesn't do
that as I understand it. Quickening, to use a metaphor, is more like
plugging a spell into an astral "electrical socket" which provides it
power. That's why the magician doesn't have to sustain it and it doesn't
prevent the magician from performing exclusives activities. However....

>
> >perhaps you could use that to locate them, a sort of symbolic/
> >sympathetic link.
> Thus my question....Perhaps yes or Perhaps no?

..... it might allow something else. What I'm about to suggest goes
beyond current rules, but not necessarily outside them. So take it with a
grain of salt and understand this is pure theoretical speculation on my
part.
It might be possible to use a magicians spell signature as a
symbolic/sympathetic link. I'm still checking the rules for spell
signatures and at the moment I'm not sure I'd allow it. In theory I'd say
it would work. The signature is strongly linked to the magician and
contains a lot of info about the magician that is very individualized.
However, it also says that viewing a spell from the astral won't reveal
the signature, which makes me wonder if it would be useful in ritual
sorcery. If the signature itself wasn't useful, perhaps the info that
could be learned from it could be used in constructing a symbolic
representation (the old "voodoo doll" thing). I'd make it tough to use,
probably around a +12 TN, with initiates being able to lower that using
centering. Tricks like this definitely fall into the "advanced magical
theory" category.
--

Ashelock
mailto:woneal@*******.net

"They say it's a brave new world we're building. I say they're right,
and we'll all have to be pretty brave to live in it."
Message no. 22
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:03:11 -0500
> Not the same here. With a spell lock it creates a link... dare I say
>"thread"... leading straight back to the magician. Quickening doesn't do
>that as I understand it. Quickening, to use a metaphor, is more like
>plugging a spell into an astral "electrical socket" which provides it
>power. That's why the magician doesn't have to sustain it and it doesn't
>prevent the magician from performing exclusives activities. However....

Point taken. So No link, for tracking or ritual...

> It might be possible to use a magicians spell signature as a
>symbolic/sympathetic link. I'm still checking the rules for spell

Well, if you can use a painting, a spell probably could be....but then, if
you can't see the spell signature, does that mean that after casting, all
magic is homogeneous, and there is nothing remotely symbolic....hmmm....

>probably around a +12 TN, with initiates being able to lower that using
>centering. Tricks like this definitely fall into the "advanced magical

You can use centering with ritual sorcery?

-=SwiftOne=-
Message no. 23
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:19:46 -0700
Gurth wrote:
|
| David Buehrer said on 12:10/10 Feb 97...
|
| > Heck even Gurth and Sascha make mistakes
|
| In my case, I'd say that has to do with not playing much SR in recent
| months... I'll need to get back in shape, maybe re-read all those SR books
| I've had for years *thinking up exhaustive training program*...

Just Do It! <add Nike "swoosh"> :)

| > P.S. You get a healthy ammount of respect from me for having reached
| > the esteemed position of SR Line Developer.
| >
| > -David-who's-just-a-crummy-supervisor :(
|
| Isn't Mike as well, just of a different kind? :)

LOL. You know, I never thought of it that way. No wonder
he gets stressed :)

-David
--
/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~
Message no. 24
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:46:49 -0500
In a message dated 2/10/97 10:10:02 PM, many wrote:

>| So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.
>
>Considering the volume of this list, FASAMike has been
>doing an outstanding job.

You like me...you really like me!!!!!

Have Fun!
Play Games!
I Like To Thank the Academy!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 25
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:23:09 +0000
|
|In a message dated 2/10/97 10:10:02 PM, many wrote:
|
|>| So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.
|>
|>Considering the volume of this list, FASAMike has been
|>doing an outstanding job.
|
|You like me...you really like me!!!!!

Nahhhh, we're just being polite.....

:)
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|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 26
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off! -Reply
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:05:54 EST
On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:46:49 -0500 "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)"
<FASAMike@***.COM> writes:
>In a message dated 2/10/97 10:10:02 PM, many wrote:
>
>>| So far, FASAMike has been doing a great job.
>>
>>Considering the volume of this list, FASAMike has been
>>doing an outstanding job.
>
>You like me...you really like me!!!!!

Of course we like you! Do you think we'd hassle you as much as we did if
we didn't:) Keep up the good work, Mike, 'cause we all like you around
here:)

--
-Canthros
If any man wishes peace, canthros1@***.com
let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
--Roman proverb
http://members.aol.com/canthros1/
Message no. 27
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:01:42 -0500
In a message dated 2/10/97 07:50:47 PM, Brett Barkside wrote:

>Sorry about that. It wasn't intended to be insulting. I was just joking
>about what was a formidable list of questions posted all at once for
>your consideration. Questions that were certainly going to take /anyone/ a
>while to answer - much less someone who gave that opening line at GenCon.
>If I insulted you, I apologize. (Although the big-shoe-and-red-nose look
>might be good for you... ;-)

No problem Brett -

I really wasn't insulted at all. I did say it and stand by it. I was just
afraid others who weren't there might not understand the context.


Have Fun!
Play Games!
Living Life to the Fullest!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 28
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:14:31 -0700
> Have Fun!
> Play Games!
> Living Life to the Fullest!

What are you doing with a life?!?!?!?!?...You're supposed to be chained to
your desk pumping out loads of new material for us. For shame, for shame,
for shame.

Caric
Message no. 29
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:12:54 -0800
> > Have Fun!
> > Play Games!
> > Living Life to the Fullest!
>
> What are you doing with a life?!?!?!?!?...You're supposed to be chained
to
> your desk pumping out loads of new material for us. For shame, for
shame,
> for shame.

Caric, you're slipping.
The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'

;)

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
The opinions expressed are those of the myriad voices in my head
Message no. 30
From: Caric <caric@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:30:53 -0700
> Caric, you're slipping.
> The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
> wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'
>

Dvixen you are correct as always I went back over it with my decoder ring
again and it turns out that it does mean Mike hasn't slept in three days
and is living off Jolt cola and smashed twinkies...sorry about that folks.

~Caric

"All the world's indeed a stage, we are mearly players.
Performers and portrayers. Each anothers audience,
outside the gilded cage." -Rush
caric@*******.com
Message no. 31
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:35:03 -0500
In a message dated 2/16/97 02:16:10 AM, Dvixen wrote:

>> > Have Fun!
>> > Play Games!
>> > Living Life to the Fullest!
>>
>> What are you doing with a life?!?!?!?!?...You're supposed to be chained
>to
>> your desk pumping out loads of new material for us. For shame, for
>shame,
>> for shame.
>
>Caric, you're slipping.
>The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
>wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'
>
>;)

Hey, how did you get the secret FASA handbook!

Have Fun!
Play Games!
Sleep Is A "What" Again!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 32
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:38:14 +0000
|>Caric, you're slipping.
|>The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
|>wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'
|>
|>;)
|
|Hey, how did you get the secret FASA handbook!

Looks like you've got a security leak.....

Time to call in the anti-espionage agents, don't you think?....

--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 33
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:04:52 +0000
|Looks like you've got a security leak.....

(You really have to be carefull with those veggies....)
--
______________________________________________________________________________
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| "Are you pondering what I'm pondering Pinky?" |
|Andrew Halliwell | |
|Principal subjects in:- | "I think so brain, but this time, you control |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
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Message no. 34
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:29:36 +0000
On 18 Feb 97 at 20:38, Spike wrote:
> |>Caric, you're slipping.
> |>The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
> |>wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'

> |Hey, how did you get the secret FASA handbook!
> Looks like you've got a security leak.....
> Time to call in the anti-espionage agents, don't you think?....
Who did say "Gaming Police"? *looks around*

Sascha
--
+---___---------+----------------------------------------+--------------------+
| / / _______ | Jhary-a-Conel aka Sascha Pabst | *BLAM!* *BLAM!* |
| / /_/ ____/ |Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.de| Stop! |
| \___ __/ | | *BLAM!* *BLAM!* |
|==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | Police! |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | -- ??? |
+------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary -----------------+
Message no. 35
From: Dvixen <dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:37:41 -0800
> >Caric, you're slipping.
> >The translation of 'Living Life to it's Fullest' (FASAspeak, for those
> >wanting to know the dialect) is 'Haven't slept in three days.'
> >
> >;)
>
> Hey, how did you get the secret FASA handbook!

<grin>
Who better to have the secret FASA handbook, than a Druid of Sea!
(Translation: I nicked it when you weren't looking)

Besides, I lurk, I (sometimes) pay attention, and therefore, I learn
things. (again, sometimes)

> Sleep Is A "What" Again!

Hmmmmm....
Does anyone on the list know a language where 'sleep' literally is a
four-letter word?

--

Dvixen dvixen@********.com
"And I thought First Ones were rare." - Ivanova - Babylon 5
The opinions expressed are those of the myriad voices in my head
Message no. 36
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: FASAMike, work your tushy off!
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:37:42 -0700
> From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
> |Hey, how did you get the secret FASA handbook!
> > Looks like you've got a security leak.....
> > Time to call in the anti-espionage agents, don't you think?....
> Who did say "Gaming Police"? *looks around*

The sound of sirens can be heard in the distance.....
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer

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