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Message no. 1
From: Georg Greve <ggreve@*******.hanse.de>
Subject: Grounding through spells (was: Re: Mages/Adepts and Bioware)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:36:56 +0100
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:36:53 +0100 (MET)

> >I am not going to discuss all this "the mage is the physical part of a
> >quickening" drek again - if your mage becomes an item when quickening
> >a spell, fine. Mine doesn't.
> Not the mage... the target. There's a difference.

So if the mage isn't the target of the Quickening the whole discussion
is obsolete - fine. ;-)

Bye...
Georg

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Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Grounding through spells (was: Re: Mages/Adepts and Bioware
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 17:30:02 +1030
>> Not the mage... the target. There's a difference.
>
>So if the mage isn't the target of the Quickening the whole discussion
>is obsolete - fine. ;-)

No, because you can still ground through the Quickening. The grounded
spell goes off wherever the physical link happens to be. That physical
link being the target.

It's just like a spell-lock ('cept that a spelllock ALWAYS provides a
link). The grounded spell goes off where the link, or lock, is. Not where
the mage happens to be, unless the mage is the link.


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Message no. 3
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Grounding through spells (was: Re: Mages/Adepts and Bioware
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:22:35 +0000 (GMT)
|>So if the mage isn't the target of the Quickening the whole discussion
|>is obsolete - fine. ;-)
|
|No, because you can still ground through the Quickening. The grounded
|spell goes off wherever the physical link happens to be. That physical
|link being the target.
|
|It's just like a spell-lock ('cept that a spelllock ALWAYS provides a
|link). The grounded spell goes off where the link, or lock, is. Not where
|the mage happens to be, unless the mage is the link.

This is one thing we'll always disagree on I think.
Spell locks have physical components, quickenings don't.

If you allow grounding through quickenings, you should also allow grounding
through sustained spells (which is *never* mentioned in *any* book!).
There is no difference between a sustained spell and a quickened spell
(as far as grounding is concerned).
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Message no. 4
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Grounding through spells (was: Re: Mages/Adepts and Bioware
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 22:37:31 +1030
>This is one thing we'll always disagree on I think.
>Spell locks have physical components, quickenings don't.

Quickened spells with Physical effects (say, Improved Invisibility, which
is a Physical spell), with a Physical target have a physical component:
the target.

>If you allow grounding through quickenings, you should also allow grounding
>through sustained spells (which is *never* mentioned in *any* book!).
>There is no difference between a sustained spell and a quickened spell
>(as far as grounding is concerned).

Umm... how 'bout the mind of the mage is in the loop? Which is NOT the
case for quickened spells.


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