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Message no. 1
From: shadowrun@********.net (Augustus)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:54:21 -0800
Your emails keep showing up as having an attachment... means everytime I get
one I have to wait for it to be scanned for viruses

If you can't get rid of the attachment, can you let me know?

Thanks
Message no. 2
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:53:08 -0500
Augustus said the following on 2/11/2003 3:54 PM:
> Your emails keep showing up as having an attachment... means everytime I get
> one I have to wait for it to be scanned for viruses
>
> If you can't get rid of the attachment, can you let me know?

Amusingly the attachments is a virus free certification
Message no. 3
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:00:14 +0100
At 12:54 11/02/2003 -0800, Augustus wrote:

>Your emails keep showing up as having an attachment... means everytime I get
>one I have to wait for it to be scanned for viruses
>
>If you can't get rid of the attachment, can you let me know?
>
>Thanks

Huh? An attachment? Now that's weird... Does this message have one
too? If so, what does the attachment contain? (and can you send it back to me?)
Is anyone else getting attachments with my messages? Does anyone
know why?

I'm using Eudora 5.1 under Windows 2000, and my anti-virus is AVG.
Sorry for the disturbance, by the way.

--
Wild_Cat

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Message no. 4
From: korishinzo@*****.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:06:39 -0800 (PST)
> Huh? An attachment? Now that's weird... Does this message
> have one too? If so, what does the attachment contain? (and can you
> send it back to me?) Is anyone else getting attachments with my
> messages? Does anyone know why?

> I'm using Eudora 5.1 under Windows 2000, and my anti-virus is AVG.
> Sorry for the disturbance, by the way.

I am using AVG as well. Your messages show up with a small text
attachment from AVG certifying that the mail is virus free. Kind of
annoying for those people who cannot accept mail with attachments,
such as a work account. Not sure how you'd disable that. I don't
believe my mail is picking that up, but I am using Yahoo. My Eudora
mail may cary a stamp like that too.

======Korishinzo
--so yes, I see the attachments, and no, this mail did not seem to
have one

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Message no. 5
From: maxnoel_fr@*****.fr (Max Noel)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:18:42 +0100
---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment
At 13:06 11/02/2003 -0800, Korishinzo wrote:

>Korishinzo
>--so yes, I see the attachments, and no, this mail did not seem to
>have one

Great, thanks. Disabling the "certify outgoing messages" option
seems to solve the problem.

--
Wild_Cat

---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment--

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Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com
Message no. 6
From: tjlanza@************.com (Timothy J. Lanza)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:29:57 -0500
At 04:18 PM 2/11/2003, Max Noel wrote:
>At 13:06 11/02/2003 -0800, Korishinzo wrote:
>
>>Korishinzo
>>--so yes, I see the attachments, and no, this mail did not seem to
>>have one
>
> Great, thanks. Disabling the "certify outgoing messages" option
> seems to solve the problem.

Alternatively, Eudora has a setting to put text attachments in the body. Of
course, if it's still virus checking and not attaching the cert, then
that's just as good. :)


--
Timothy J. Lanza
"When we can't dream any longer, we die." - Emma Goldman
Message no. 7
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:33:51 -0500
Timothy J. Lanza said the following on 2/11/2003 4:29 PM:

> Alternatively, Eudora has a setting to put text attachments in the body.
> Of course, if it's still virus checking and not attaching the cert, then
> that's just as good. :)

The attachment is being added by the scanning software and not Eudora though
Message no. 8
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:47:54 +0000
At 09:00 PM 11/2/2003, Wild_Cat wrote:
>>Your emails keep showing up as having an attachment... means everytime I get
>>one I have to wait for it to be scanned for viruses
>>
>>If you can't get rid of the attachment, can you let me know?
>>
>>Thanks
>
> Huh? An attachment? Now that's weird... Does this message have
> one too? If so, what does the attachment contain? (and can you send it
> back to me?)
> Is anyone else getting attachments with my messages?

All I'm getting is a link to your mail prog (by the looks of it).
<Apologies for wasting Bandwidth>


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

www.wyrmtalk.co.uk - Please be patient, this site is under construction

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Message no. 9
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:16:43 +0100
According to Max Noel, on Tue, 11 Feb 2003 the word on the street was...

> Huh? An attachment? Now that's weird... Does this message have
> one too?

Not as far as I can tell. That message had just the standard headers, and a
plain text message ending with a Yahoo.fr advertisement. No multi-part or
attachments stuff that I could see.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Wat wil die man in hemelsnaam?
-> Probably NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--)
O V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 10
From: nichlas@****.dk (Nichlas Hummelsberger)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:09:47 +0100
Justin Bell wrote:
> Amusingly the attachments is a virus free certification

Hmm.. How can anyone certify that?
Message no. 11
From: annachie@********.com.au (Paul)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:55:44 +1100
>From memory, I've been seeing attachments like this being sent to the list
for at least a year.

Annachie
Message no. 12
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:40:24 +0100
According to Nichlas Hummelsberger, on Wed, 12 Feb 2003 the word on the street was...

> > Amusingly the attachments is a virus free certification
>
> Hmm.. How can anyone certify that?

It's probably a notice added by the virus scanner to let everyone know the message
has been scanned. Whether the recipient believes this or not is up to them, I think,
as anyone could add such a notice to a message...

The easiest way to guarantee virus-free messages is to get yourself a mailer that's
1) not targeted by e-mail trojans/worms/viruses/etc. and 2) can't execute scripting
languages. The other step is to learn to recognize those messages and delete them.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Wat wil die man in hemelsnaam?
-> Probably NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--)
O V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 13
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:58:20 +0000
At 09:40 AM 13/2/2003, Gurth wrote:
>The easiest way to guarantee virus-free messages is to get yourself a
>mailer that's
>1) not targeted by e-mail trojans/worms/viruses/etc. and 2) can't execute
>scripting
>languages. The other step is to learn to recognize those messages and
>delete them.

Or in your case put samples of the raw code into a new e-mail and send it
out again with some extra little comments interspersed through it :D


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

www.wyrmtalk.co.uk - Please be patient, this site is under construction

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Message no. 14
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:24:46 +0100
According to Lone Eagle, on Thu, 13 Feb 2003 the word on the street was...

> Or in your case put samples of the raw code into a new e-mail and send it
> out again with some extra little comments interspersed through it :D

How do you mean? (I hope this is a reference to the time I quoted part of a
virus and mailed it to this list, not to the fact that you may have
received virus e-mails with my address on them -- which, I can assure you,
did not come from me.)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Wat wil die man in hemelsnaam?
-> Probably NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--)
O V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 15
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:08:24 +0000
At 10:24 AM 14/2/2003, Gurth wrote:
> > Or in your case put samples of the raw code into a new e-mail and send it
> > out again with some extra little comments interspersed through it :D
>
>How do you mean? (I hope this is a reference to the time I quoted part of a
>virus and mailed it to this list, not to the fact that you may have
>received virus e-mails with my address on them -- which, I can assure you,
>did not come from me.)

Yes, quoting virus code, It was about what? a couple of years ago?


--
Lone Eagle
"Hold up lads, I got an idea."

www.wyrmtalk.co.uk - Please be patient, this site is under construction

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s+(+++) GM+++(-) A GS+(-) h++ LA+++ CG--- F c+
Message no. 16
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Max Noel
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:18:57 +0100
According to Lone Eagle, on Sat, 15 Feb 2003 the word on the street was...

> Yes, quoting virus code, It was about what? a couple of years ago?

I can't remember, but it must have been. I'm guessing it probably was
around the time of one of the first of those viruses (Melissa?).

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Wat wil die man in hemelsnaam?
-> Probably NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--)
O V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

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