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Message no. 1
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Munchkin help
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:22:25 +0000
Ok, people, I need help.

I am designing a PBEM, and asked a friend of mine to play, and he
wants to play a dragon. Yes, he is a munchkin.

Of course, I will not allow it. He is an argumentative sort, and I
know would like to debate the issue. I will oblige him, because I
like to argue with him. I need some help with my position. I am going
to explain to him that:
1) He could not properly play a dragon, as no one can comprehend how
a couple thousand year old non-human entity would view the world
2) Why in the hell would a dragon be interested in shadowrunning
anyway?

Could you all help me with some points I could use to support my
position? Much appreciated.




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drekhead@***.net |somewhere, is just starting his and the target
drekhead@***.com | could be you.
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Message no. 2
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:13:49 EST
To: Drekhead
From: Gweedo the Killer Pimp
Subject: How to discourage munchkins 101
>1) He could not properly play a dragon, as no one can comprehend how
>a couple thousand year old non-human entity would view the world
>2) Why in the hell would a dragon be interested in shadowrunning
>anyway?
>Could you all help me with some points I could use to support my
>position? Much appreciated.
-------
Well, You could tell him that Shadowrunning is all about paranoia, or
fear, and playing a character that will not die is not the point of
shadowrun, but to play characters that have mortality. Who cares if you
know that you'll get out of that firefight in the bar. It's more fun
worring about the bullet that'll kill you, and trying to get them first.
$-)
Message no. 3
From: Shawn Baumgartner <Breakdown@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 03:53:18 -0500
In response to Drekhead's munchkin plea:

You already stated reasons 1 and 2 in your question, so here's 3)Game
imbalance, 4)Too much productive playing time trying to hash out
PC's-as-dragon rules, and of course 5)Because the GM said so, that's
why! :)

Shawn
Who doesn't argue about dumb shit, he just makes it go away.

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Message no. 4
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:55:21 EST
On Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:22:25 +0000 Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET> writes:
>Ok, people, I need help.
>
>I am designing a PBEM, and asked a friend of mine to play, and he
>wants to play a dragon. Yes, he is a munchkin.
>
>Of course, I will not allow it. He is an argumentative sort, and I
>know would like to debate the issue. I will oblige him, because I
>like to argue with him. I need some help with my position. I am going
>to explain to him that:
>1) He could not properly play a dragon, as no one can comprehend how
>a couple thousand year old non-human entity would view the world

Ia-A dragon's, let alone any 6 to 12 thousand year old
being's-motivations, thought processes, and means are so far above or
apart from the motivations and means of any normal character as to be
nigh unto un-playable.


>2) Why in the hell would a dragon be interested in shadowrunning
>anyway?

IIa-Most dragons are powerful enough to be able to fend for themselves
without shadowrunning.
IIb-Any dragon at all interested in shadowrunning as a profession or
source of income has more serious problems than simply being low on cash
(for instance, can we say BIG enemies?)
IIc-If a dragon needed something done through the shadows, he (or she)
would be infinitely more likely to hire a group of shadowrunners to do it
for him (or her)


>
>Could you all help me with some points I could use to support my
>position? Much appreciated.
>

III-(This is the most important point)BECAUSE THE GM SAYS NO!!!!!

:)

Good luck:)

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Message no. 5
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:17:06 +0000
On 28 Feb 97 at 11:22, Drekhead wrote:
[snip]
> 1) He could not properly play a dragon, as no one can comprehend how
> a couple thousand year old non-human entity would view the world
> 2) Why in the hell would a dragon be interested in shadowrunning
> anyway?
>
> Could you all help me with some points I could use to support my
> position? Much appreciated.
3) His GM said "no"

On 28 Feb 97 at 18:13, Gweedo The Killer Pimp responded:
> Who cares if you
> know that you'll get out of that firefight in the bar. It's more fun
> worring about the bullet that'll kill you, and trying to get them
> first.
In a bar? How do you get a dragon into a bar???

Sascha
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Message no. 6
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 02:10:21 +0000
|On 28 Feb 97 at 18:13, Gweedo The Killer Pimp responded:
|> Who cares if you
|> know that you'll get out of that firefight in the bar. It's more fun
|> worring about the bullet that'll kill you, and trying to get them
|> first.
|In a bar? How do you get a dragon into a bar???

Errrm....

With a lot of grease and a crow-bar?
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Message no. 7
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:08:07 +0000
On 3 Mar 97 at 2:10, Spike wrote:
[snip dragon as PC in a bar fight]
> |In a bar? How do you get a dragon into a bar???
>
> Errrm....
>
> With a lot of grease and a crow-bar?
ROTFLMAO!

*cough* Uh, I wish I had read that last night, I'd had slept much
better! What would the dragon...

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Message no. 8
From: "Mike Mulvihill (FASA)" <FASAMike@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:19:17 -0500
In a message dated 2/28/97 10:44:50 PM, Drekhead wrote:

>Ok, people, I need help.
>
>I am designing a PBEM, and asked a friend of mine to play, and he
>wants to play a dragon. Yes, he is a munchkin.
>
>Of course, I will not allow it. He is an argumentative sort, and I
>know would like to debate the issue. I will oblige him, because I
>like to argue with him. I need some help with my position. I am going
>to explain to him that:
>1) He could not properly play a dragon, as no one can comprehend how
>a couple thousand year old non-human entity would view the world
>2) Why in the hell would a dragon be interested in shadowrunning
>anyway?

Wow, it looks like I wrote this myself. I need to find out where I was this
week-end!

Have Fun!
Play Games!
When the Mailing List Sounds Like Me -- It's Time To Hide!

Mike Mulvihill
Shadowrun Line Developer
FASA
www.fasa.com
Message no. 9
From: Drekhead <tkerby@*****.NY.US.IBM.NET>
Subject: Re: Munchkin help
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:09:33 +0500
On 3 Mar 97 at 16:19, Mike Mulvihill (FASA) wrote:

> In a message dated 2/28/97 10:44:50 PM, Drekhead wrote:
>
> >Ok, people, I need help.
> >
> >I am designing a PBEM, and asked a friend of mine to play, and he
> >wants to play a dragon. Yes, he is a munchkin.
> >
> >Of course, I will not allow it. He is an argumentative sort, and I
> >know would like to debate the issue. I will oblige him, because I
> >like to argue with him. I need some help with my position. I am
> >going to explain to him that: 1) He could not properly play a
> >dragon, as no one can comprehend how a couple thousand year old
> >non-human entity would view the world 2) Why in the hell would a
> >dragon be interested in shadowrunning anyway?
>
> Wow, it looks like I wrote this myself. I need to find out where I
> was this week-end!
>
> Have Fun!
> Play Games!
> When the Mailing List Sounds Like Me -- It's Time To Hide!


Hehe. Really Mike? I'm suddenly feel a surge of power flowing through
me... I think like Mike... Muwahahaa..... :)

What are your thoughts on the situation though? Very curious.



====DREKHEAD==============================================================
Tim Kerby | Never relax. Your run may be over, but someone,
drekhead@***.net |somewhere, is just starting his and the target
drekhead@***.com | could be you.
drekhead@*******.com | ---http://users.aol.com/drekhead/home.html---
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