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Message no. 1
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:42:35 EST
Here is a new physical adept power that I have made the write-up for ...

Concealment Levels I - III
Magic Cost : 1, 3, 5
Description : This power increases the signature of a physical adept when
they choose to have to power active. This applies across the entire board to
sensor tests by drones and riggers, and perception tests by people to find the
physical adept. This power does not work in conjunction with the spirit power
of Concealment or Alienation.

Mike
Message no. 2
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:09:59 EST
In a message dated 97-12-11 00:36:32 EST, AirWisp@***.COM writes:

> Concealment Levels I - III
> Magic Cost : 1, 3, 5

Wow, this is going to be painful...

> Description : This power increases the signature of a physical adept
when
> they choose to have to power active.

And when the power/ability active, what happens? Is this invisibility, even
of a limited form? Does the person become more astrally prevalent (as most
GM's and players are likely to assume)? Does "having the power on" create a
modifier to any action tests for the PAD that is under such?

These are questiosn Mike, not pigeonholing attempts....

> This applies across the entire board
> to
> sensor tests by drones and riggers, and perception tests by people to find
> the
> physical adept. This power does not work in conjunction with the spirit
> power
> of Concealment or Alienation.

Ah, I can smell an attempt to keep the power balanced. I would have to argue
the Spirit Concealment, as ECM and ED both are usable in conjunction with a
Spirit's Concealment properties (assuming two or more services of course).

Otherwise, IMHO, the power looks fine...
-K
Message no. 3
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 01:08:48 EST
In a message dated 97-12-12 00:21:44 EST, you write:

> > Description : This power increases the signature of a physical adept
> >when they choose to have to power active.
>
> And when the power/ability active, what happens? Is this invisibility,
even
> of a limited form? Does the person become more astrally prevalent (as most
> GM's and players are likely to assume)? Does "having the power on" create
a
> modifier to any action tests for the PAD that is under such?
>
Starting with the question in order ...

First, is it invisibility ? No, the physical adept is just able to be not
noticed by someone, or is just harder to notice (similar to the At Ease
ability, though if the person does not notice you then they don't even
remember you being there ... does this sound familiar to anyone ... this has
happened to me on more than one occassion ...

Second, does the person become more astrally prevalent ? This power also
affects people and spirits trying to find the PAD via astral means (includes
assensing also).

Third, while the PAD has the power 'on' they suffer a +2 target number
modifier to all combat-oriented abilities ...

Any other questions ?

Mike
Message no. 4
From: Justin Pinnow <vanyel@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:05:34 -0500
> From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
> Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 1:08 AM

> First, is it invisibility ? No, the physical adept is just able to be
not
> noticed by someone, or is just harder to notice (similar to the At Ease
> ability, though if the person does not notice you then they don't even
> remember you being there ... does this sound familiar to anyone ... this
has
> happened to me on more than one occassion ...

<Snip>

> Any other questions ?

Yes. Why not just use the Disregard spell? It does what you want (except
for the astral concealability) without any negative side effects to combat,
etc.

> Mike

Justin :)
Message no. 5
From: Kevin R Mohondro <mohkev@******.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:17:11 -0800
> From: Justin Pinnow <vanyel@*******.NET>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
> Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 5:05 AM

<Snip>
>
> > Any other questions ?
>
> Yes. Why not just use the Disregard spell? It does what you want
(except
> for the astral concealability) without any negative side effects to
combat,
> etc.
>
> > Mike
>
> Justin :)

Well, the PhysAd won't be able to have the Disregard spell up unless he's
got a chummer around to do honors of casting it on him. And unless the
mage has the spell locked or quickened, he'll get the +2 for having to
sustain the spell.


--
-Moe
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Kevin R Mohondro mohkev@******.com
Software Engineer
SalePoint/Retail Interact (619) 552-2026
Message no. 6
From: Kevin R Mohondro <mohkev@******.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:13:27 -0800
> > > Description : This power increases the signature of a physical
adept
> > >when they choose to have to power active.
> >
> > And when the power/ability active, what happens? Is this
invisibility,
> even
> > of a limited form? Does the person become more astrally prevalent
(as most
> > GM's and players are likely to assume)? Does "having the power on"
create
> a
> > modifier to any action tests for the PAD that is under such?
> >

<SNIP>

> Third, while the PAD has the power 'on' they suffer a +2 target number
> modifier to all combat-oriented abilities ...
>
> Any other questions ?

I've got one Mike. Why is the +2 modifier to only combat-oriented
abilities? Wouldn't that hinder your social skills also? Do you have to do
any concentration (like sustaining a spell) to keep the ability up and
running?

> Mike

--
-Moe
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin R Mohondro mohkev@******.com
Software Engineer
SalePoint/Retail Interact (619) 552-2026
Message no. 7
From: Justin Pinnow <vanyel@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:24:03 -0500
> From: Kevin R Mohondro <mohkev@******.COM>
> Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 6:17 PM

> > From: Justin Pinnow <vanyel@*******.NET>
> > Date: Friday, December 12, 1997 5:05 AM

> > Yes. Why not just use the Disregard spell? It does what you want
> (except
> > for the astral concealability) without any negative side effects to
> combat,
> > etc.

> > Justin :)

> Well, the PhysAd won't be able to have the Disregard spell up unless he's
> got a chummer around to do honors of casting it on him. And unless the
> mage has the spell locked or quickened, he'll get the +2 for having to
> sustain the spell.

Sorry. What I MEANT to say was, why don't you just make a physad version
of Disregard? Just translate it straight over instead of creating a new
ability all together. I just hate to see people wasting their time
reinventing the wheel, when they already have the foundation for something
in the rules. :)

> --
> -Moe

Justin :)
Message no. 8
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:34:14 EST
In a message dated 97-12-12 10:30:34 EST, vanyel@*******.NET writes:

> > Any other questions ?
>
> Yes. Why not just use the Disregard spell? It does what you want (except
> for the astral concealability) without any negative side effects to combat,
> etc.
>
> > Mike
>
> Justin :)
>
Justin, I think he's trying to find a "Physical Adept" power, not a new
magicians spellcasting trick....

-K
Message no. 9
From: AirWisp <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: New Physical Adept Power
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 01:53:14 EST
In a message dated 97-12-12 10:30:27 EST, you write:

> Yes. Why not just use the Disregard spell? It does what you want (except
> for the astral concealability) without any negative side effects to combat,
> etc.
> Justin :)
>
I can see that, though I wanted something that was not a blatant stealing of a
mage spell ...

Mike

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