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Message no. 1
From: A Halliwell <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Off Topic, but......
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:32:14 +0000
I don't suppose anyone else out there using ELM knows how to use the weedout
option in the elmrc file do you?

It'd be usefull, just to get rid of topics I'm not interested in and so
forth.....

(I've been trying to make it work now for a half our or more, with no
luck..... )


Thanks....
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Message no. 2
From: "Terry L. Amburgey" <xanth@********.UKY.EDU>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:20:39 -0500
At 10:32 PM 10/29/96 +0000, Andrew wrote:
>I don't suppose anyone else out there using ELM knows how to use the weedout
>option in the elmrc file do you?
>
>It'd be usefull, just to get rid of topics I'm not interested in and so
>forth.....
>
>(I've been trying to make it work now for a half our or more, with no
>luck..... )

Ditto for Eudora. I'm not optimistic though; topics seem to crop up rapidly
and I don't know if I want to forever delete EVERY post that contains the
word 'movie'. Moreover threads that start on with a given topic seem to
mutate rapidly.... So far I have had better luck weeding out authors than
than topics.
Besides, this approach allowed me to set up a special 'Gurth' folder so I can
always read his first :) Terry


Terry L. Amburgey
Associate Professor of Management
College of Business and Economics
University of Kentucky
Lexington, KY 40506-0034
Phone: 606-257-7726
Fax: 606-257-3577
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:12:23 +0100
Terry L. Amburgey said on 18:20/29 Oct 96...

> Ditto for Eudora. I'm not optimistic though; topics seem to crop up rapidly
> and I don't know if I want to forever delete EVERY post that contains the
> word 'movie'. Moreover threads that start on with a given topic seem to
> mutate rapidly.... So far I have had better luck weeding out authors than
> than topics.

I don't know Eudora (I used to use a version that couldn't filter) but it
seems to me that if it can filter for authors' names, it should also be
able to filter subject lines in much the same way... Pegasus can do it
easily, though :)

> Besides, this approach allowed me to set up a special 'Gurth' folder so I can
> always read his first :) Terry

You mean anyone actually _reads_ my posts? Wow! :)

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Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:19:40 -0700
A Halliwell wrote:
|
|I don't suppose anyone else out there using ELM knows how to use the weedout
|option in the elmrc file do you?
|
|It'd be usefull, just to get rid of topics I'm not interested in and so
|forth.....

Unfortunately weedout doesn't get rid of topics, just headers. Here's an
example of mine:

# enable the weedout list to be read?
weed = ON

# what headers I DON'T want to see, ever.
weedout = "Path:" "Return" "X-Sender:" "Date:"
"Cc:" "Lines:"
"Originator:" "Organization:" "X-Office-To:"
"X-Within-Url:" "Sender:"
"Precedence:" "Reply-To:" "Errors-To:"
"X-Listprocessor-Version:"
"X-Comment:" "*end-of-user-headers*"

And, as I run accross more offensive headers I just add them to the list.

Hope that helps.

-David

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Message no. 5
From: Court Schuett <schuett@*****.IVCC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:34:27 -0600
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Gurth wrote:

> I don't know Eudora (I used to use a version that couldn't filter) but it
> seems to me that if it can filter for authors' names, it should also be
> able to filter subject lines in much the same way... Pegasus can do it
> easily, though :)

Well, you can always do anything in straight Unix, so.... :)
That's what I've got setup now. All my listservs go to their respective
folders. Kinda nice actually.

> You mean anyone actually _reads_ my posts? Wow! :) >
<suck-up>
Actually, you have gained some fame in my group through everything on
your web page. I have whole binders filled with Plastics Warriors stuff.
</suck-up>
:)

-Court

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Message no. 6
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:34:51 +0000
|
|On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Gurth wrote:
|
|> I don't know Eudora (I used to use a version that couldn't filter) but it
|> seems to me that if it can filter for authors' names, it should also be
|> able to filter subject lines in much the same way... Pegasus can do it
|> easily, though :)
|
|Well, you can always do anything in straight Unix, so.... :)
|That's what I've got setup now. All my listservs go to their respective
|folders. Kinda nice actually.

I finally found the filter program....
The man file had nothing on it, and even the helpdesk didn't know about it,
but, after unearthing a file containing the elm guides....

AT LAST!!!

Thanks for mentioning the Filter program...
If you hadn't, I'd probably still be wrestling with weedout...

Useless no?

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|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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Message no. 7
From: 'Spaceman' WD Lee <spaced@*.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:45:48 -0800
Procmail is a neat litle program as well. the UofW only
half-supports it (it's only there as long as someone at C&C bothers to
maintain it), but it works great. I've got it set up to send mail to
various folders, but I've seen people do filters on it, even set up their
mailbox into a web-readable file.....

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Check out the Bill Page! |did two loads of laundry. -Genesis 1:2.5
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Message no. 8
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:27:11 -0500
In a message dated 96-10-30 11:49:44 EST, you write:

><suck-up>
>Actually, you have gained some fame in my group through everything on
>your web page. I have whole binders filled with Plastics Warriors stuff.
></suck-up>
>:)
>
>-Court

Well, Gurth, I'd have the same situation except that _I_ refuse to spend the
time and paper required to print 400+ pages of SR material (not including
NERPS) for my players to use-OTOH, they're allowed to use _almost_ anything
in those books, so they probably are pretty appreciative of your efforts:)
Keep it up!

John-I'm-not-sucking-up-Pederson
canthros@***.com
http://members.gnn.com/lenoj/johns.htm
Message no. 9
From: Peter Leitch <pleitch_hpcs@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:35:52 +1100
At 11:12 30/10/96 +0100, you wrote:

>You mean anyone actually _reads_ my posts? Wow! :)

Gurth, you KNOW you're the guru, the swami we all love and respect. Your
words are to us as is gold to dwarves. Your every missive is devoured with
enormous gusto, your next pronouncement is await with trembling....

God, if I don't stop now, I'm gonna be violently ill...and I WROTE IT!!

:-{)

Have a better one...

PML

***************************************
Peter Leitch
<pleitch_hpcs@*******.com.au>
Canberra, Australia
Message no. 10
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:31:20 +0100
John-who-claims-not-to-suck-up-Pederson said on 22:27/30 Oct 96...

> Well, Gurth, I'd have the same situation except that _I_ refuse to spend the
> time and paper required to print 400+ pages of SR material (not including
> NERPS) for my players to use-OTOH, they're allowed to use _almost_ anything
> in those books, so they probably are pretty appreciative of your efforts:)

What you need to do is trick one of your players into spending several
hours near a printer, so you can have a hardcopy of all the SR
net.sourcebooks that you can find :)

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Message no. 11
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:31:20 +0100
Peter Leitch said on 16:35/31 Oct 96...

> >You mean anyone actually _reads_ my posts? Wow! :)
>
> Gurth, you KNOW you're the guru, the swami we all love and respect. Your
> words are to us as is gold to dwarves. Your every missive is devoured with
> enormous gusto, your next pronouncement is await with trembling....
>
> God, if I don't stop now, I'm gonna be violently ill...and I WROTE IT!!

That's more like it :)

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Message no. 12
From: olafur gunnarsson <olafurg@******.IS>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:38:31 GMT
>Peter Leitch said on 16:35/31 Oct 96...
>
>> >You mean anyone actually _reads_ my posts? Wow! :)
>>
>> Gurth, you KNOW you're the guru, the swami we all love and respect. Y=
our
>> words are to us as is gold to dwarves. Your every missive is devoured =
with
>> enormous gusto, your next pronouncement is await with trembling....
>>
>> God, if I don't stop now, I'm gonna be violently ill...and I WROTE IT!=
!
>
>That's more like it :)
>


Hmm i think you have a cult of personality Gurth, must be Difficult being=
a
Virtual God neh :Þ
-Olafur G
Message no. 13
From: Court Schuett <schuett@*****.IVCC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:48:23 -0600
On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Gurth wrote:

> What you need to do is trick one of your players into spending several
> hours near a printer, so you can have a hardcopy of all the SR
> net.sourcebooks that you can find :)

Ahhhhh, that too, but at school here, HP5Sis and 4MVs scattered around
the building making print outs a breeze. Works out rather well. :)

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Message no. 14
From: Max Rible <cheshire@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:04:12 -0800
At 11:31 10/31/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>John-who-claims-not-to-suck-up-Pederson said on 22:27/30 Oct 96...
>> Well, Gurth, I'd have the same situation except that _I_ refuse to spend the
>> time and paper required to print 400+ pages of SR material (not including
>> NERPS) for my players to use-OTOH, they're allowed to use _almost_ anything
>> in those books, so they probably are pretty appreciative of your efforts:)

>What you need to do is trick one of your players into spending several
>hours near a printer, so you can have a hardcopy of all the SR
>net.sourcebooks that you can find :)

I actually printed out all of NAGEE, NERPS, and the Plastic Warriors stuff,
then took it over to copy shop to get it xeroxed onto double-sided paper.
The resulting bill was something over US$100, not to mention the original
cost in paper and toner to my laser printer. But it's *nice* to have that
stuff.

BTW, Gurth, did you ever come up with a system for converting CP2020 armor
to Shadowrun? Or are you converting Chromebook 4?
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Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:19:52 +0100
Max Rible said on 11:04/31 Oct 96...

> I actually printed out all of NAGEE, NERPS, and the Plastic Warriors stuff,
> then took it over to copy shop to get it xeroxed onto double-sided paper.
> The resulting bill was something over US$100, not to mention the original
> cost in paper and toner to my laser printer. But it's *nice* to have that
> stuff.

I tend to print it out double-sided straight away, it saves paper :)

> BTW, Gurth, did you ever come up with a system for converting CP2020 armor
> to Shadowrun? Or are you converting Chromebook 4?

I never did find a good, fool-proof system for converting armor. I tend to
use Ballistic and Impact ratings that I feel look right when compared to
the CP2020 Stopping Power. I have CB4, but I haven't converted anything
out of it yet (except for some of the bioware, that also appears in
Paranoid Animals because Talsorian seems to have scooped up Morninman's
bioware article. Now why can't FASA do that?).

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Message no. 16
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:23:05 +0000
Gurth said:

> I never did find a good, fool-proof system for converting armor. I tend to
> use Ballistic and Impact ratings that I feel look right when compared to
> the CP2020 Stopping Power. I have CB4, but I haven't converted anything
> out of it yet (except for some of the bioware, that also appears in
> Paranoid Animals because Talsorian seems to have scooped up Morninman's
> bioware article. Now why can't FASA do that?).

I have an old article that I used for the basis of my SR armor system
if you are interested in it. It breaks armor down into what it's
made of and what it is (jacket, etc) to get armor values. Let me
know if you want me to post it.


--Droopy
droopy@**.net
Message no. 17
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Off Topic, but......
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:47:24 +0100
Droopy said on 0:23/ 3 Nov 96...

> I have an old article that I used for the basis of my SR armor system
> if you are interested in it. It breaks armor down into what it's
> made of and what it is (jacket, etc) to get armor values. Let me
> know if you want me to post it.

Sure, send it along.

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