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Message no. 1
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:31:05 -0400
Just got back from Origins last night. I had the chance to talk to Mike as
well as attending the "What's up at FASA" seminar. The following things (as
well as others) came out of it.....

The vote is real.....Mike said that they have developed a storyline based
upon each of the candidates winning so they just pop in the appropriate
story after the vote is tallied.

They are trying to move away from the horrors and immortals in the products.
To quote Mike, "I hope I never see another immortal elf..."

There is a Shadowrun Companion in the works. It will clarify some rules,
provide a walkthrough of some sort for beginers and will provide materials
for running campaigns with something other than shadowrunners, ala Cyberpunk
2020. Oh yeah, there will be new ways to spend karma, too.

They are also looking to do a hot spots type sourcebook that hits key areas
around the world.

Riggers Black Book 2 is in the works.

That's all I can really remember right now. I'm burned out from doing Lunch
Money demos all weekend.

For those of you who are into card games...the Shadowrun Card Game is back
online. I think release was tentatively 1997 or 98.


--Droopy
Message no. 2
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@****.orion.org>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 00:46:11 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Droopy wrote:

> Just got back from Origins last night. I had the chance to talk to Mike as
> well as attending the "What's up at FASA" seminar. The following things
(as
> well as others) came out of it.....
>
[snip message]
>
> For those of you who are into card games...the Shadowrun Card Game is back
> online. I think release was tentatively 1997 or 98.
>
Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
card game, and now I must hang my head in shame. What's next, a
*#@%!*ing Warhammer 40K card game? Jesus, will the madness never stop.

"Save Gaming. Kill a Magic Player Today."
-Bumper sticker seen at DragonCon

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Message no. 3
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:44:12 +0100
Mark D. Fender said on 0:46/ 9 Jul 96...

> Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
> not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
> quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
> card game, and now I must hang my head in shame.

There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.

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Message no. 4
From: Luc <rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:07:45 -0500 (EDT)
> > For those of you who are into card games...the Shadowrun Card Game is back
> > online. I think release was tentatively 1997 or 98.
> >
> Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
> not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
> quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
> card game, and now I must hang my head in shame. What's next, a
> *#@%!*ing Warhammer 40K card game? Jesus, will the madness never stop.

After getting burnt out on Magic: the Gathering with the new cade set every
other week I agree, BUT FASA is a company that must make a profit so I'm
really not suprised they jumped on the band wagon. Do what I do...find the
card game section of your game shops and then imagine them to be the table
that an IRS auditor is at...BINGO! That area of the store no longer exists :).

> "Save Gaming. Kill a Magic Player Today."
> -Bumper sticker seen at DragonCon

The one thing I still can't get over is that according to a friend of
mine...some of these card game players think of themselves as role-players.
Actually the only card game I see as having merit and have any desire to get
any of the cards is the Highlander on cause it is the first release of actual
material on that story line...oh well, I'll stop the bitchin' about cardgamers.

--
Luc AKA BobW

EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME!
BUT THE CORPSE STILL HAS THE FLOOR!
--Kevin Spacey as Lloyd in The Ref (1994)

EMail: rjwate01@*****.louisville.edu
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Message no. 5
From: Elfman <elfman@*********.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:23:08 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:44 09-07-96 +0100, you wrote:
>Mark D. Fender said on 0:46/ 9 Jul 96...
>
>> Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
>> not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
>> quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
>> card game, and now I must hang my head in shame.
>
>There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
>WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
>it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.
>
I thought I had already seen a card game for BAttletech, maybe it was just
another company ripping off these great FASA ideas *scratching my hand*

SGt Pepper

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Message no. 6
From: Elfman <elfman@*********.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:23:04 -0400 (EDT)
At 00:31 09-07-96 -0400, you wrote:
>Just got back from Origins last night. I had the chance to talk to Mike as
>well as attending the "What's up at FASA" seminar. The following things (as
>well as others) came out of it.....
>
>The vote is real.....Mike said that they have developed a storyline based
>upon each of the candidates winning so they just pop in the appropriate
>story after the vote is tallied.

Question: do we just go to the web page to vote? If so, can we stuff the
ballot box? 8-) (Just trying to make it as real as possible)

{sniped a couple 'em}

>They are also looking to do a hot spots type sourcebook that hits key areas
>around the world.

Any word on what those hot spots might be?

{anoterh snip}

>For those of you who are into card games...the Shadowrun Card Game is back
>online. I think release was tentatively 1997 or 98.

'Bout damn time, Im not into card games, but then i wasnt really inot role
playing til Shadowrun came around. Hope it is a similar improvement on the
genre.

Sgt Pepper

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Message no. 7
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@****.orion.org>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:40:13 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Mark D. Fender said on 0:46/ 9 Jul 96...
>
> > Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
> > not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
> > quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
> > card game, and now I must hang my head in shame.
>
> There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
> WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
> it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.
>
I try to pretend that Battletech doesn't exist ever since the much
vaunted Mechwarrior 2 cam out and _still_ sucked. Not to mention that
Mekton Zeta is personally a much better system.

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Message no. 8
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@****.orion.org>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:08:34 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Elfman wrote:

> At 11:44 09-07-96 +0100, you wrote:
> >Mark D. Fender said on 0:46/ 9 Jul 96...
> >
> >> Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
> >> not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
> >> quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
> >> card game, and now I must hang my head in shame.
> >
> >There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
> >WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
> >it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.
> >
> I thought I had already seen a card game for BAttletech, maybe it was just
> another company ripping off these great FASA ideas *scratching my hand*
>
Those might have been the Battletech Recognition Cards they cam out with
a few years ago (And they sold so well, or so I'm told:) or it might
have been that Heavy Gear Fighter card set from Ianus for Heavy Gear.

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Message no. 9
From: Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:50:27 -0500
At 03:23 PM 7/9/96 -0400, you wrote:
>At 00:31 09-07-96 -0400, you wrote:
>>They are also looking to do a hot spots type sourcebook that hits key areas
>>around the world.
>
>Any word on what those hot spots might be?

That's part of the Flash Points thing Mike M mentioned a while back. It'll
include Austin and the Panama Canal Zone, possibly places like the Yucatan
Peninsula and an update on Chicago, maybe something about Denver.
Basically, it should be the geographic version of Threats - places where
trouble may come from, where things could happen that would change the face
of the Sixth World.

-Thomas Deeny
Cartoonist At Large

"Outlook good."
-Today's Magic 8-Ball answer
Message no. 10
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:09 -0400
At 03:07 PM 7/9/96 -0500, Luc wrote:

>After getting burnt out on Magic: the Gathering with the new cade set every
>other week I agree, BUT FASA is a company that must make a profit so I'm
>really not suprised they jumped on the band wagon. Do what I do...find the

Actually, FASA scrapped the idea at least once that I know of. It's not
just a question of money, since the card game industry is extremely unkind
to any game that is not magic. They may just want to try something new.

>The one thing I still can't get over is that according to a friend of
>mine...some of these card game players think of themselves as role-players.

Depends on the game and the player. I can see some merit in certain cases
for that argument.

>Actually the only card game I see as having merit and have any desire to get
>any of the cards is the Highlander on cause it is the first release of actual
>material on that story line...oh well, I'll stop the bitchin' about cardgamers.

Geez, you guys bitch more than the wargamers did when another fad started a
long time ago. They complained non stop about those role players not being
real gamers......


--Droopy
Message no. 11
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:08 -0400
At 11:44 AM 7/9/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:

>There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
>WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
>it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.

The SR card game is being done in house by FASA.


--Droopy
Message no. 12
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:13 -0400
At 05:50 PM 7/9/96 -0500, Faux Pas wrote:

>>Any word on what those hot spots might be?
>
>That's part of the Flash Points thing Mike M mentioned a while back. It'll
>include Austin and the Panama Canal Zone, possibly places like the Yucatan
>Peninsula and an update on Chicago, maybe something about Denver.
>Basically, it should be the geographic version of Threats - places where
>trouble may come from, where things could happen that would change the face
>of the Sixth World.

That's right, forgot that part, was jotting notes about the pirates book
that deals with the carib league, etc.


--Droopy
Message no. 13
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:07 -0400
At 12:46 AM 7/9/96 -0500, Mark D. Fender wrote:

>Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
>not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
>quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
>card game, and now I must hang my head in shame. What's next, a
>*#@%!*ing Warhammer 40K card game? Jesus, will the madness never stop.
>
GW already did the card game bit. They put out a set of cards for each of
their lines in a game that was amazingly like war. Other than being decent
painting guides, it was a worthless endevor on their part.


--Droopy
Message no. 14
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:11 -0400
At 03:23 PM 7/9/96 -0400, Elfman wrote:

>>The vote is real.....Mike said that they have developed a storyline based
>>upon each of the candidates winning so they just pop in the appropriate
>>story after the vote is tallied.
>
>Question: do we just go to the web page to vote? If so, can we stuff the
>ballot box? 8-) (Just trying to make it as real as possible)

Vote early, vote often.... <G>

>>They are also looking to do a hot spots type sourcebook that hits key areas
>>around the world.
>
>Any word on what those hot spots might be?

Nothing real specific yet. It's too far out, I think.

>>For those of you who are into card games...the Shadowrun Card Game is back
>>online. I think release was tentatively 1997 or 98.
>
>'Bout damn time, Im not into card games, but then i wasnt really inot role
>playing til Shadowrun came around. Hope it is a similar improvement on the
>genre.

Dunno yet. We'll have to wait and see.


--Droopy
Message no. 15
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:17:12 -0400
At 02:40 PM 7/9/96 -0500, Mark D. Fender wrote:

>I try to pretend that Battletech doesn't exist ever since the much
>vaunted Mechwarrior 2 cam out and _still_ sucked. Not to mention that
>Mekton Zeta is personally a much better system.

The RPG? I always just adapted SR rules to cover that. The MW rules were
never that much good.


--Droopy
Message no. 16
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@****.orion.org>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:33:13 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Droopy wrote:

> Geez, you guys bitch more than the wargamers did when another fad started a
> long time ago. They complained non stop about those role players not being
> real gamers......
>
>
> --Droopy
>
>
This is not why I complain about card games. The reason I complain about
them is because I can't walk into a hobby shop without hearing averyone
talk about them. I'd refuse to patronize these stores that do, but
they're the only shops in town. If I could ignore them, it would be
fine. But I can't. They're everywhere. They sell them in _video_
stores down here, for gods sake. I can escape a crappy show or
commercial on TV by changing the channel, You cannot escape those damn cards.

At DragonCon last year, I wlaked into the "gaming room." This was a huge
ballroom with a balcony running around the rim. Of the forty os so
gaming groups in there, only two were doing anything besides cards! I
expected to see cards there, but not that many.

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Message no. 17
From: "Mark D. Fender" <mfender@****.orion.org>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:36:00 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Droopy wrote:

> At 02:40 PM 7/9/96 -0500, Mark D. Fender wrote:
>
> >I try to pretend that Battletech doesn't exist ever since the much
> >vaunted Mechwarrior 2 cam out and _still_ sucked. Not to mention that
> >Mekton Zeta is personally a much better system.
>
> The RPG? I always just adapted SR rules to cover that. The MW rules were
> never that much good.
>
We tried that once, and never were really that happy with it. (Although
I'd be interested in hearing your ideas.--Not on list)

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Message no. 18
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:29:49 +0100
Elfman said on 15:23/ 9 Jul 96...

> I thought I had already seen a card game for BAttletech, maybe it was just
> another company ripping off these great FASA ideas *scratching my hand*

There's a set of "recognition cards" for BattleTech, that's been out for a
couple years now. I think all the cards do is give a picture of a 'Mech
and a short description, but they're not a game in themselves.

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Message no. 19
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:29:49 +0100
Droopy said on 0:17/10 Jul 96...

> >I try to pretend that Battletech doesn't exist ever since the much
> >vaunted Mechwarrior 2 cam out and _still_ sucked. Not to mention that
> >Mekton Zeta is personally a much better system.
>
> The RPG? I always just adapted SR rules to cover that. The MW rules were
> never that much good.

I've bout MW2 and I think we played it once... Most of the time, BT games
around here are just "throw down a mapsheet or two, grab a few record
sheets and counters, and blast each other to bits" time :)

One notable game involved both players taking a single Wasp each...

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Message no. 20
From: Droopy <droopy@**.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:44:55 -0400
At 12:33 AM 7/10/96 -0500, Mark Fender wrote:

>This is not why I complain about card games. The reason I complain about
>them is because I can't walk into a hobby shop without hearing averyone
>talk about them. I'd refuse to patronize these stores that do, but

Well, card games are the big thing right now, but the shift back towards
roleplaying and war games has already started.

>At DragonCon last year, I wlaked into the "gaming room." This was a huge
>ballroom with a balcony running around the rim. Of the forty os so
>gaming groups in there, only two were doing anything besides cards! I
>expected to see cards there, but not that many.

There's good reason for this. It's easier to pick up a card game in a room
full of strangers than to get an RPG going in the same room. Most of the
role playing occurs in the events or among friends at the con. I'm not
saying that it's good or right, but it is true.


--Droopy
Message no. 21
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:52:49 -0400 (EDT)
At 12:29 PM 7/10/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>Droopy said on 0:17/10 Jul 96...

>> The RPG? I always just adapted SR rules to cover that. The MW rules were
>> never that much good.
>
>I've bout MW2 and I think we played it once... Most of the time, BT games
>around here are just "throw down a map sheet or two, grab a few record
>sheets and counters, and blast each other to bits" time :)

Our group played it briefly, but our DM did a D&D crossover type thing
to make it more interesting, but wasn't my cup of tea.

--
"I remember my first sexual encounter because I kept the recipe."
- Jeff Dahmer
Message no. 22
From: Stephen Delear <shadow@***.com>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:51:43 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Mark D. Fender said on 0:46/ 9 Jul 96...
>
> > Ooooh, that really makes me want to launch a tac nuke at Chicago, bugs or
> > not. If I have to see another card game, I'mgoing to scream. I was
> > quite proud that I played SR, one of the few companie that did not have a
> > card game, and now I must hang my head in shame.
>
> There's also a BattleTech card game coming out in the autumn, courtesy of
> WotC. I don't know if they'll be the ones doing the SR card game too, but
> it won't be the first FASA-game-based CCG.

If you want to play a game that will NEVER have a card game based after
it I would suggest you try Ars Magica (the 4th ed should be out by
October from Atlas games).

(Ars Magica use to belong to WW who then sold it to WotC and was about to
go to press when WotC cancelled all their RPGs to concentrate on cards.
Most Ars fans don't plan to buy any more cards ice rinks open in hell [or
six flags over Texas, I've yet to see a difference]).

Stephen
Austin, TX
"And god gave the devil a choice between hell and Texas, he picked the
better of the two." - unknown 1890, Georgetown TX


>
> --
> Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
> You know how difficult it is to fake your own death?
> Only one man pulled it off: Elvis.
> -> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
> -> The Character Mortuary: http://huizen.dds.nl/~mortuary/mortuary.html <-
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Message no. 23
From: Stephen Delear <shadow@***.com>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:54:14 -0500 (CDT)
On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Faux Pas wrote:

> At 03:23 PM 7/9/96 -0400, you wrote:
> >At 00:31 09-07-96 -0400, you wrote:
> >>They are also looking to do a hot spots type sourcebook that hits key areas
> >>around the world.
> >
> >Any word on what those hot spots might be?
>
> That's part of the Flash Points thing Mike M mentioned a while back. It'll
> include Austin and the Panama Canal Zone, possibly places like the Yucatan
> Peninsula and an update on Chicago, maybe something about Denver.
> Basically, it should be the geographic version of Threats - places where
> trouble may come from, where things could happen that would change the face
> of the Sixth World.

I hope they get who ever did worlds with out end to right the Austin
book. Something about Jim Bob Mophit (SP? and I should know) getting
brutally disembowed by nature spirits just seems so correct...

Stephen
Austin, TX

>
> -Thomas Deeny
> Cartoonist At Large
>
> "Outlook good."
> -Today's Magic 8-Ball answer
>
>
Message no. 24
From: The Jestyr <s421539@*******.gu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:48:12 +1000 (EST)
> Actually the only card game I see as having merit and have any desire to get
> any of the cards is the Highlander on cause it is the first release of actual
> material on that story line...oh well, I'll stop the bitchin' about cardgamers.

I confess <hanging head in shame> that I do actually play one CCG...
GUARDIANS. Classic game. Half of the cards have BRILLIANT graphics and
the other half are riproaringly funny. For instance, attacking creatures
can be bribed with things to go away. Those things are Babes, Beer, and
Gold... there are creatures like the Energy Toad... Annoying Gnats In The
Hood... the Mad Idiot Fiend... c'mon, at least ONE CCG company has a
sense of humour.

Lady Jestyr

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I don't have enemies, it's just that my best friends
are trying to kill me.
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Elle Holmes s421539@*****.student.gu.edu.au
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1503/
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The opinions expressed are my own, unless you don't
agree with them, in which case they are my evil twin
sister's opinions.
Message no. 25
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Origins info from FASA
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 07:01:46 -0600 (MDT)
The Jestyr wrote:
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|> Actually the only card game I see as having merit and have any desire to get
|> any of the cards is the Highlander on cause it is the first release of actual
|> material on that story line...oh well, I'll stop the bitchin' about cardgamers.
|
|I confess <hanging head in shame> that I do actually play one CCG...
|GUARDIANS. Classic game. Half of the cards have BRILLIANT graphics and
|the other half are riproaringly funny. For instance, attacking creatures
|can be bribed with things to go away. Those things are Babes, Beer, and
|Gold... there are creatures like the Energy Toad... Annoying Gnats In The

Name of publisher and ISBN if any? My friends just dumped their spare Magic
cards on me and I need to get back at them somehow :)

-David

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