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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Tue Feb 19 12:40:01 2002
>From: Gurth <Gurth@******.nl>

>According to Ice Heart, on Mon, 18 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> > The NAGTEE was a netbook

>Don't you mean the NAGEE, and "is"? :)

No no, I am sure I meant the OTHER Neo Anarchist Guide published on the
internet. :)
And that depends on what your definition of "is" is. :P

Kori

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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Tue Feb 19 13:30:06 2002
According to Ice Heart, on Tue, 19 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> >Don't you mean the NAGEE, and "is"? :)
>
> No no, I am sure I meant the OTHER Neo Anarchist Guide published on the
> internet. :)
> And that depends on what your definition of "is" is. :P

In this case, I'd say my definition is, "The next issue (#10) is under
construction, but is suffering unplanned delays due to Windows problems."

It seems that it is impossible for me to finish a NAGEE without some kind
of software trouble delaying things just at the time I want to get the
issue over with...

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Ahrain Drigar)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 12:15:08 2002
At least it's not the Fonts in Acrobat this time. ;-)

Ahrain

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)


According to Ice Heart, on Tue, 19 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> >Don't you mean the NAGEE, and "is"? :)
>
> No no, I am sure I meant the OTHER Neo Anarchist Guide published on the
> internet. :)
> And that depends on what your definition of "is" is. :P

In this case, I'd say my definition is, "The next issue (#10) is under
construction, but is suffering unplanned delays due to Windows problems."

It seems that it is impossible for me to finish a NAGEE without some kind
of software trouble delaying things just at the time I want to get the
issue over with...

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Dat is de kip voor het ei spannen.
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

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V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t@ 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
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Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 13:15:01 2002
According to Ahrain Drigar, on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> > It seems that it is impossible for me to finish a NAGEE without some kind
> > of software trouble delaying things just at the time I want to get the
> > issue over with...
>
> At least it's not the Fonts in Acrobat this time. ;-)

No, it's far worse now. If you can't use your computer for more than fifteen
minutes without a crash, it's kinda hard to get anything done :(

Gods, I wish there was a good, easy-to-use DTP package for Linux... (I don't
feel like learning TeX just yet.)

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-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Thanatos)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 13:20:02 2002
> No, it's far worse now. If you can't use your computer for more than fifteen
> minutes without a crash, it's kinda hard to get anything done :(
>
> Gods, I wish there was a good, easy-to-use DTP package for Linux... (I don't
> feel like learning TeX just yet.)
>

You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?

:)

ACP

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the mind of man. The reality of life is war.

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 16:45:01 2002
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Thanatos wrote:

> You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
>

dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
then, what list is :-)

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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 16:55:01 2002
At 09:47 PM 2/20/2002 +0000, Jconstable@*****.com wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Thanatos wrote:
>
> > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
> >
>
>dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
>then, what list is :-)

Well, it's not ready for it *again*

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Message no. 8
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Graht)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 17:10:02 2002
At 09:47 PM 2/20/2002 +0000, Jconstable@*****.com wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Thanatos wrote:
>
> > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
> >
>
>dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
>then, what list is :-)

vi Rules! ;)

To Life,
-Graht
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Message no. 9
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Drew Curtis)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 17:25:01 2002
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Graht wrote:

> At 09:47 PM 2/20/2002 +0000, Jconstable@*****.com wrote:
> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Thanatos wrote:
> >
> > > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
> > >
> >
> >dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
> >then, what list is :-)
>
> vi Rules! ;)
>
Notepad!
Message no. 10
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 17:40:09 2002
From: "Drew Curtis" <dcurtis@***.net>
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Graht wrote:
>
> > At 09:47 PM 2/20/2002 +0000, Jconstable@*****.com wrote:
> > >dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
> > >then, what list is :-)
> >
> > vi Rules! ;)
> >
> Notepad!

Ohh... come on, if you're going to mention any editor fro Bill, it should be
edlin.

Lars
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Message no. 11
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jonathan)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 17:40:17 2002
> Notepad!
>

Bah where's your sense of adventure!

Edit.exe!


:o)
Message no. 12
From: shadowrn@*********.com (George S Waksman)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:20:02 2002
>> > > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?

>> >dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
>> >then, what list is :-)

>> vi Rules! ;)

>Notepad!

Boo Yah, notepad all the way!
Message no. 13
From: shadowrn@*********.com (George S Waksman)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:25:01 2002
"Jonathan" wrote:

>Edit.exe!

Funny story about MS-DOS Editor

It was originally IBM Editor and released with OS2 but MS stole it and relabeled it for
packaging with DOS/Windows.

-George Waksman
Message no. 14
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jonathan)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:30:01 2002
> It was originally IBM Editor and released with OS2 but MS stole it and
relabeled it for packaging with DOS/Windows.
>

Funny story....

90% of Bill Gates technology originally came from Apple and Steve Jobbs...
go figure ;o)
Message no. 15
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Martin Little)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:35:08 2002
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Jonathan wrote:

> > It was originally IBM Editor and released with OS2 but MS stole it and
> relabeled it for packaging with DOS/Windows.
> >
>
> Funny story....
>
> 90% of Bill Gates technology originally came from Apple and Steve Jobbs...
> go figure ;o)
>

But that's ok because it was stolen from Xerox first :)
Message no. 16
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Jonathan)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:40:02 2002
> But that's ok because it was stolen from Xerox first :)
>

Hey all's fair in computers, business and reverse engineering... ;o)
Message no. 17
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Beilby)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 18:50:02 2002
> > 90% of Bill Gates technology originally came from Apple and Steve
Jobbs...
> > go figure ;o)
> >
>
> But that's ok because it was stolen from Xerox first :)
>

It was licensed from Xerox, or at least that was my understanding.
Message no. 18
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 19:00:02 2002
At 08:05 PM 2/20/2002 -03-30, Jonathan wrote:
> > It was originally IBM Editor and released with OS2 but MS stole it and
>relabeled it for packaging with DOS/Windows.
> >
>
>Funny story....
>
>90% of Bill Gates technology originally came from Apple and Steve Jobbs...
>go figure ;o)

nah. it came from Digital Arts
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Message no. 19
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 19:05:01 2002
At 07:06 PM 2/20/2002 -0500, Justin Bell wrote:
>At 08:05 PM 2/20/2002 -03-30, Jonathan wrote:
>> > It was originally IBM Editor and released with OS2 but MS stole it and
>>relabeled it for packaging with DOS/Windows.
>> >
>>
>>Funny story....
>>
>>90% of Bill Gates technology originally came from Apple and Steve Jobbs...
>>go figure ;o)
>
>nah. it came from Digital Arts

Woops, that should be Digital Research...
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justin@******.net
Message no. 20
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Iridios)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 19:10:02 2002
George S Waksman wrote:
>
> >> > > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
>
> >> >dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
> >> >then, what list is :-)
>
> >> vi Rules! ;)
>
> >Notepad!
>
> Boo Yah, notepad all the way!

Wimps!! Punchcards all the way.

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Message no. 21
From: shadowrn@*********.com (George S Waksman)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 19:15:01 2002
Iridios wrote:

>George S Waksman wrote:
>>
>> >> > > You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?
>>
>> >> >dont go there. this list is not ready for the vi/emacs debate.
>> >> >then, what list is :-)
>>
>> >> vi Rules! ;)
>>
>> >Notepad!
>>
>> Boo Yah, notepad all the way!
>
>Wimps!! Punchcards all the way.
>
I'm pretty sure I have a pencil around here somewhere.
Message no. 22
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Nightwinder)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Feb 20 19:25:01 2002
George S Waksman wrote:

> I'm pretty sure I have a pencil around here somewhere.

Pencil? HA! Now where'd I put that pointy stick......

However, I admit that my preferred option is notepad. The pointy stick in
the dirt doesn't work to well with the computer after all :(


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Message no. 23
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Thu Feb 21 05:05:01 2002
According to Drew Curtis, on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> > vi Rules! ;)
>
> Notepad!

Loser :)

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Message no. 24
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Thu Feb 21 05:05:08 2002
According to Thanatos, on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> You mean *gasp* you're not writing it in Vi?

I guess I'd better not mention that I prefer Emacs :)

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Dat is de kip voor het ei spannen.
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++@ UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--) O
V? PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t@ 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
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Message no. 25
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Thu Feb 21 08:45:01 2002
> > > vi Rules! ;)
> > >
> > Notepad!
>
>Ohh... come on, if you're going to mention any editor fro Bill, it should
>be
>edlin.

Yay! edlin.....feel the pain

or maybe QB Ed

but, editors was not the thread. I believe it was something about crashing
computers keeping the Neo Anarchists Guide (TO :P )Everything Else (Issue
10) out of our hands. (see, easy mistake, I just added the silent "T" in
the acronym ;) ) To that end, I have asked the IT ninjas from over at
Angst Technology to visit Gurth and fix things. I hope it works. :)

Incidnetly, where are the NAGEE archived? My old source graduated college
and I want my own link.

Korishinzo
*written on punchcards, compiled on a Sparry* ;)

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Message no. 26
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Thu Feb 21 14:35:01 2002
According to Ice Heart, on Thu, 21 Feb 2002 the word on the street was...

> but, editors was not the thread. I believe it was something about
> crashing computers keeping the Neo Anarchists Guide (TO :P )Everything
> Else (Issue 10) out of our hands. (see, easy mistake, I just added the
> silent "T" in the acronym ;) ) To that end, I have asked the IT
> ninjas from over at Angst Technology to visit Gurth and fix things. I
> hope it works. :)

I wish they'd show up, then. I have several other computer problems I'll
have them fix...

> Incidnetly, where are the NAGEE archived? My old source graduated
> college and I want my own link.

http://plastic.dumpshock.com/nagee has all the issues in all the formats
that were released "officially." Any other formats you might encounter are
somebody else's handiwork :)

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-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++@ UL+ P(+) L++ E W--(++) N o? K w(--) O
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Message no. 27
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Lars Wagner Hansen)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Wed Mar 27 16:45:00 2002
From: "Gurth" <Gurth@******.nl>

> http://plastic.dumpshock.com/nagee has all the issues in all the formats
> that were released "officially." Any other formats you might encounter are
> somebody else's handiwork :)

That means that there isn't any PDF-versions of #2 and #6?

Lars

Btw. you still have a broken link to NAGEE, if you go to
http://plastic.dumpshock.com/shadowrun/supplements.html and click the NAGEE
button you get a HTTP 404, since you got a shadowrun to meny in the path.
Message no. 28
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Netbook (was Physical Mages)
Date: Thu Mar 28 04:05:25 2002
According to Lars Wagner Hansen, on Wed, 27 Mar 2002 the word on the street was...

> > http://plastic.dumpshock.com/nagee has all the issues in all the
> > formats that were released "officially." Any other formats you might
> > encounter are somebody else's handiwork :)
>
> That means that there isn't any PDF-versions of #2 and #6?

None that I made, at any rate. The reason is that Adobe Distiller choked on them
when I tried to turn the Postscript versions into PDFs. I never was able to
figure out what was wrong.

> Btw. you still have a broken link to NAGEE, if you go to
> http://plastic.dumpshock.com/shadowrun/supplements.html and click the
> NAGEE button you get a HTTP 404, since you got a shadowrun to meny in the
> path.

*sigh* When will I learn to triple-check everything? :) Thanks.

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-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

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