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Message no. 1
From: Jeremy Smith <jsmith@*****.ORG>
Subject: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:16:58 -0500
As fer the ratios of magic to non-magic, here are our numbers.
1 Troll sammie
1 elven mage (we're not using More Meta. rulz)
1 human sammie (when I'm not GMing)
1 physical adept (using 1.5*magic-rating-spending rule)
1 human err...McGeyver is the closest I can think of.


So 2 magical, 3 mundane


Oh, I have a question for all you chummmers. We used More Meta. rulz
once, but seems that the chars. turned out too strong....Has anyone come
up with a variation to MM rules? I have been thinking about allowing MM
rules, but _not_ allowing chars. to have an allergy.
Comments?
Message no. 2
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 13:18:58 +1000
> Oh, I have a question for all you chummmers. We used More Meta. rulz
> once, but seems that the chars. turned out too strong....Has anyone come
> up with a variation to MM rules? I have been thinking about allowing MM
> rules, but _not_ allowing chars. to have an allergy.
> Comments?

Yes, I agree with you. If you use the more metas rule, then the allergies
allow the metas to be much more powerful then regular humans. If you do use
the more metas rule, then I suggest either removing the allergies
altogether, or allowing regular humans to get allergies too.

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 3
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 21:51:22 -0600
On Fri, 9 Sep 1994, Jeremy Smith wrote:

> Oh, I have a question for all you chummmers. We used More Meta. rulz
> once, but seems that the chars. turned out too strong....Has anyone come
> up with a variation to MM rules? I have been thinking about allowing MM
> rules, but _not_ allowing chars. to have an allergy.
> Comments?

Well, perhaps have those "uncommon" materials crop up more commonly.
However, allergies are more useful in straight role-playing than in combat.

I do have a suggestion, however. If you total all of the modifications
to attributes, you'll find that it's a net number of +3 for all of them.
You might try altering the mods so that they add up to +0 instead.

Also, remember that in SRII it doesn't say that humans can't take allergies.

John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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Message no. 4
From: Chaos Manager <jstawarz@******.GMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 17:22:43 -0400
> Well, perhaps have those "uncommon" materials crop up more commonly.
> However, allergies are more useful in straight role-playing than in combat.
>
> I do have a suggestion, however. If you total all of the modifications
> to attributes, you'll find that it's a net number of +3 for all of them.
> You might try altering the mods so that they add up to +0 instead.
>

Speaking of allergies, I was rolling up a character for one of my
players (an Elven Rat shaman of all things...) and he decided that he
wanted an allergy to perfumes (feminine perfumes/colognes and male
cologne/perfumes that are man-made) I was wondering whether you would
rate this as a common allergen or an uncommon allergen? Also, what
kinds of "different" (read really wierd/off-the-wall) allergies have you
or your players come up with?
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Message no. 5
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 15:07:04 -0700
>Oh, I have a question for all you chummmers. We used More Meta. rulz
>once, but seems that the chars. turned out too strong....Has anyone come
>up with a variation to MM rules? I have been thinking about allowing MM
>rules, but _not_ allowing chars. to have an allergy.
>Comments?

Yes. If you folks want I can repost my character creation system.
I personally allow anyone to take allergies + I also use Brian Angliss's
disad-advantage from Gurps - conversion stuff. I find that if helps the
player get a better handle on the character + and gives me more things to use
against them (Like a ward they feel they must protect.)


Groups ratio
My NPC group that I right about is 2 - 4 or 2-6 depending

Last year was 2-4
this year is 1-6 or so.
This summer was 2-0 (BOTH were elven shamans (panther + wolf))

It changes by who the people are.
Nightfox

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Message no. 6
From: Gian-Paolo Musumeci <musumeci@***.LIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 18:42:13 -0500
In my SR campaigns, I allow humans to have allergies too. Make it fair.
Message no. 7
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 16:43:06 +1000
Chaos Manager writes:

> Speaking of allergies, I was rolling up a character for one of my
> players (an Elven Rat shaman of all things...) and he decided that he
> wanted an allergy to perfumes (feminine perfumes/colognes and male
> cologne/perfumes that are man-made) I was wondering whether you would
> rate this as a common allergen or an uncommon allergen? Also, what
> kinds of "different" (read really wierd/off-the-wall) allergies have you
> or your players come up with?

Well, I would have to say perfumes would be common. While they may not be as
common as sunlight, or plastics, they are an awful lot more common than silver.
Actually, Iron is listed as an uncommon allergy, perfumes might be on about
the same scale as iron. Hmm, hard one, but I'd still go common, most people
have some kind of perfume on for a large proportion of their lives.

As for odd allergies, I remember somebody on here had an allergy to penguins.
More of a phobia though.

--
Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 8
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 22:14:01 -0600
On Sat, 10 Sep 1994, Chaos Manager wrote:

> Speaking of allergies, I was rolling up a character for one of my
> players (an Elven Rat shaman of all things...) and he decided that he
> wanted an allergy to perfumes (feminine perfumes/colognes and male
> cologne/perfumes that are man-made) I was wondering whether you would
> rate this as a common allergen or an uncommon allergen? Also, what

I would rate this common, because people have been using the stuff for
hundreds of years, and that is probably not going to change in the next
sixty.

> kinds of "different" (read really wierd/off-the-wall) allergies have you
> or your players come up with?

Well, there's soap, glass, testosterone, pretty much any common substance
that would be really inconvenient (except for women in the case of
testosterone (excepting again certain circumstances)).

John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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Message no. 9
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:25:46 +1000
John IV writes:

> > kinds of "different" (read really wierd/off-the-wall) allergies have
you
> > or your players come up with?
>
> Well, there's soap, glass, testosterone, pretty much any common substance
> that would be really inconvenient (except for women in the case of
> testosterone (excepting again certain circumstances)).

Yuo so sure about that? I thought everyone had small amounts of both sexes
hormones in their systems.

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 10
From: John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 23:41:06 -0600
On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, MILLIKEN DAMION A wrote:

> > > kinds of "different" (read really wierd/off-the-wall) allergies
have you
> > > or your players come up with?
> >
> > Well, there's soap, glass, testosterone, pretty much any common substance
> > that would be really inconvenient (except for women in the case of
> > testosterone (excepting again certain circumstances)).
>
> Yuo so sure about that? I thought everyone had small amounts of both sexes
> hormones in their systems.

Oh, yeah, that's right. See my previous response to the "CUR AHEE" guy
about not knowing much about medicine.

John IV aka John Moeller <John.Moeller@*.cc.utah.edu>
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Message no. 11
From: "Scott D. Peterson" <scpeters@****.EDU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:56:22 -0600
On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, John Moeller wrote:
>
> Oh, yeah, that's right. See my previous response to the "CUR AHEE" guy
> about not knowing much about medicine.

John Curr Ahee means Stands Alone in Chreokee if i recall. My ex units
moto. DMZ of KOrea and all that. As to explain my med aspects Im very
into the thoughts behind the ware and how it works. So if you all will
allow me to add my little area of expertice thanks.

Edge

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Message no. 12
From: Electron Dancer <C598706@*******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 10:24:09 CDT
FYI, I run the allergies rules (the common/uncommon thing) as they relate to
combat-that is, in effect, what they are affecting (higher stats, skills)-
and sometimes things that will adversely affect the character on a normal
basis. Therefore, if a character takes an allergy to salt, although salt is
common, the allergy would only get an uncommon rating because it has little
game relavence on a _regular_ basis. Iron is common-how much of the world is
made/treated/in contact with iron? Therefore, I think a perfume allergy
would be uncommon.

--Trondo-->
Message no. 13
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Poll Mage Ratio
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 12:57:19 +1000
--Trobdo--> writes:

> FYI, I run the allergies rules (the common/uncommon thing) as they relate to
> combat-that is, in effect, what they are affecting (higher stats, skills)-
> and sometimes things that will adversely affect the character on a normal
> basis. Therefore, if a character takes an allergy to salt, although salt is
> common, the allergy would only get an uncommon rating because it has little
> game relavence on a _regular_ basis. Iron is common-how much of the world is
> made/treated/in contact with iron? Therefore, I think a perfume allergy
> would be uncommon.

Well, I can see the idea, but I don't agree. By this definition you would
probably rate sunlight as an uncommon, sinse most combat occurs during the
hours of darkness. BTW isn't salt (or perhaps its the sodium in it) a trace
element? Hence the character would need to obtain sodium suppliments (unless
it was the sodium they were allergic too - which would really suck if it is a
trace element). As for perfume, you don't think your opponents would wear
any? Perfume would be about as dangerous an allergy to have as pollutants,
you could hardly ever get away from it, combat or no combat.

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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