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Message no. 1
From: 00DNA <mcmanus@******.ALBANY.EDU>
Subject: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:02:48 -0400
>>Perhaps the Invisibility spell is just an illusion that the
>>person truly does belong ... here anyway. Anyone remember
>>the guy from X-Files (series) who was able to walk into the
>>FBI building with a piece of paper with the word "PASS"
>>written on it?

Robert Modell, aka Pusher. Appeared in the 3rd season, episode name Pusher
and later again...either 4th or 5th season. I wouldn't say he had an
illusion spell...I think it was more like a spell of Control Thought and
Influence.


--00DNA
<<Replication Terminated>>
Message no. 2
From: "Mark C. Farrington" <alareth@*****.DWEBS.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:11:16 -0400
>Perhaps the Invisibility spell is just an illusion that the
>person truly does belong ... here anyway. Anyone remember
>the guy from X-Files (series) who was able to walk into the
>FBI building with a piece of paper with the word "PASS"
>written on it?


Back when I was playing Marvel Super Heros on a regular basis, the
character I played had an "invisibility" power that worked along the
following lines.
Take the following example: There is a picture hanging on the wall in
your living room. It's always been there in the same spot and you have seen
it everyday of your life. After a while you don't "see" it anymore. It's
still there but it just dosen't register anymore.
His power caused the target to see him without conciously registering
him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out of
their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living room
coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.

Alareth - Acolyte of the First Church of the Squooshy Ball
Investigator, Shadowrun Webring Internal Affairs
The Shiny Happy Gaming Group - http://www.dwebs.net/~alareth
ICQ UIN - 11468823
Message no. 3
From: Steven McCormick <stardust@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:34:08 -0500
At 10:11 AM 9/10/98 -0400, Alareth wrote:
> Back when I was playing Marvel Super Heros on a regular basis, the
>character I played had an "invisibility" power that worked along the
>following lines.
> Take the following example: There is a picture hanging on the wall in
>your living room. It's always been there in the same spot and you have seen
>it everyday of your life. After a while you don't "see" it anymore. It's
>still there but it just dosen't register anymore.
> His power caused the target to see him without conciously registering
>him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out of
>their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living room
>coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.
>

This sounds more like the Disregard spell to me... at least that's how I
use it. Invisibility (IMO) is exactly that, invisible, you can't be seen.
With an invisibilty spell people would bump into you because as far as
their concerned there's nothing in front of them (a potentially dangerous
situation), whereas with disregard the people see you and go around you,
but don't pay any attention to you.
I realize that this is a past character from a different game that you're
citing here, but I thought I would add my 2 cents anyway :).

BlueMule
Who doesn't want to fall too far into the "Pit of Lurkdom" :)
Message no. 4
From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:53:05 -0500
> His power caused the target to see him without conciously registering
> him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out of
> their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living room
> coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.

Wasn't there a Monty Python skit about this? Something about "someone elses
problem"?

-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net
Message no. 5
From: Razor Girl <sprawlg@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:27:57 PDT
>At 10:11 AM 9/10/98 -0400, Alareth wrote:
>> Back when I was playing Marvel Super Heros on a regular basis,
the
>>character I played had an "invisibility" power that worked along the
>>following lines.
>> Take the following example: There is a picture hanging on the
wall in
>>your living room. It's always been there in the same spot and you
have seen
>>it everyday of your life. After a while you don't "see" it anymore.
It's
>>still there but it just dosen't register anymore.
>> His power caused the target to see him without conciously
registering
>>him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out
of
>>their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living
room
>>coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.
>>
>
>This sounds more like the Disregard spell to me... at least that's how
I
>use it. Invisibility (IMO) is exactly that, invisible, you can't be
seen.
>With an invisibilty spell people would bump into you because as far as
>their concerned there's nothing in front of them (a potentially
dangerous
>situation), whereas with disregard the people see you and go around
you,
>but don't pay any attention to you.
>I realize that this is a past character from a different game that
you're
>citing here, but I thought I would add my 2 cents anyway :).
>
>BlueMule
>Who doesn't want to fall too far into the "Pit of Lurkdom" :)
>
Does anyone still have a copy of the First edition GM screen adventure.
Silver Angel. There was a look away spell in it. It made people get
distracted when ever they saw the subject of the spell. They would
register the person for a split second and then become confused. Really
cool. Even worked through cameras so it could screw with sec. riggers
but good.

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Message no. 6
From: Harald Schoenknecht <harrdy@*******.AT>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:56:43 +0200
XaOs wrote:
>
> > His power caused the target to see him without conciously registering
> > him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out of
> > their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living room
> > coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.
>
> Wasn't there a Monty Python skit about this? Something about "someone elses
> problem"?
I remember the "other persons problem shield" (spelling might be
wrong... I read the book in german) from "the hitchhickers guide to the
galaxy" (by douglas adams...)
I always thought this shield is a neat idea...

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"this the seat,
That we must change for Heaven? .
[Then] hail horrors! hail, / Infernal world! And thou, profoundest Hell,
Receive thy new possessor--one who brings / A mind not to be changed by
place or time.
The mind is its own place, and in itself / Can make a Heaven of Hell, a
Hell of Heaven.
Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:50:23 +0200
According to Mark C. Farrington, at 10:11 on 10 Sep 98, the word on the street was...

> Take the following example: There is a picture hanging on the wall in
> your living room. It's always been there in the same spot and you have seen
> it everyday of your life. After a while you don't "see" it anymore. It's
> still there but it just dosen't register anymore.

It doesn't even take 10 years for that. A couple of months ago I sprayed
my keyboard black and white (the casing only, not the keys, okay? :) and
the first few nights when I came into my room to go to bed I kept seeing
something that didn't belong there from the corner of my eyes. After a few
days I'd gotten used to it and don't notice it anymore.

--
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-> NERPS Project Leader * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-
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Message no. 8
From: David Foster <fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:16:01 -0400
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, XaOs wrote:

->> His power caused the target to see him without conciously registering
->> him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go out of
->> their way to walk around him just like you would go around the living room
->> coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.
->
->Wasn't there a Monty Python skit about this? Something about "someone elses
->problem"?

It was in the Third book (maybe the fourth) of the Hitchhiker's
Guide to the Galaxy series by Douglas Adams....

Fixer --------------} The easy I do before breakfast,
the difficult I do all day long,
the impossible only during the week,
and miracles performed on an as-needed basis....

Now tell me, what was your problem?
Message no. 9
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:42:01 -0500
---------
> From: Razor Girl <sprawlg@*******.COM>
> >
> Does anyone still have a copy of the First edition GM screen adventure.
> Silver Angel. There was a look away spell in it. It made people get
> distracted when ever they saw the subject of the spell. They would
> register the person for a split second and then become confused. Really
> cool. Even worked through cameras so it could screw with sec. riggers
> but good.

See-Me-Not. Actually, it made them look away from what ever image they
were shown right after the spell was cast, and would not remember seeing
what they were being distracted from. Its a mana spell, so it wouldn't
work on cameras, though.
Message no. 10
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:17:04 -0400
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At 12:53 PM 9/10/98 -0500, XaOs wrote:
>> His power caused the target to see him without conciously
registering
>> him, just like the picture in the example. people would even go
out of
>> their way to walk around him just like you would go around the
living room
>> coffee table you don't "see" anymore either.
>
>Wasn't there a Monty Python skit about this? Something about "someone
elses
>problem"?

"Someone Else's Problem" was used as an explanation for invisibility
in the third book of the Five Book Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Trilogy. :)

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Message no. 11
From: Dom T-J <phobic@**.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:54:28 +1000
>>Take the following example: There is a picture hanging on the wall in
>>your living room. It's always been there in the same spot and you have
>>seen it everyday of your life. After a while you don't "see" it
anymore.
>>It's still there but it just dosen't register anymore.
>
>It doesn't even take 10 years for that. A couple of months ago I sprayed
>my keyboard black and white (the casing only, not the keys, okay? :) and
>the first few nights when I came into my room to go to bed I kept seeing
>something that didn't belong there from the corner of my eyes. After a few
>days I'd gotten used to it and don't notice it anymore.
>Gurth@******.nl

This process is termed "organic familiarity", at least in some on the
material I've read on the topic. It's probably been responsible for about
a quarter of the screwups in human history. Just as an aside, I've seen
this in operation... some of my friends and I used to play 'war games' in
our gardens at night. One night this developed into a 'camo' version of
hide and seek. I noticed that a shrub had been uprooted, so when my friend
was searching for us, I hunkered down there. He walked within half a metre
of me... he 'knew' that there was supposed to be a shrub-sized object
there, so he didn't even look twice.
Clever runners could take advantage of this fact.

Regards,

Phobic
"He who fears nothing save fear itself. And trolls with clubs."
Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:38:10 +0200
According to Nexx, at 14:42 on 10 Sep 98, the word on the street was...

> See-Me-Not. Actually, it made them look away from what ever image they
> were shown right after the spell was cast, and would not remember seeing
> what they were being distracted from. Its a mana spell, so it wouldn't
> work on cameras, though.

But it does if a person looking at a monitor is under the spell's
influence and sees the item on the monitor. You could use this to sneak
past a camera, if you can ensure the guard on duty at the monitor is the
one you cast the spell on.

--
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It may look to the untrained eye I'm sitting on my arse all day.
-> NERPS Project Leader * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html <-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 13
From: Grunion <mrgone@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:34:27 -0700
This whole concept sounds a lot like the Vampire:TM power obfuscate at
low levels.
I really don't feel liking going and getting the book, but i think it's
like level two.

Also, I want to make it clear that I've never played vampire, I just
have the book
and want to a Vampire LARP for a year and a half. So there.

-Grunion
--
"You said you were the king of liars,
And I believed you and called you sire,
But now I realize that I have been decieved."
-They Might Be Giants
Message no. 14
From: "Mark C. Farrington" <alareth@*****.DWEBS.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:00:13 -0400
>Also, I want to make it clear that I've never played vampire, I just
>have the book


Last I heard, it wasn't a crime to play Vampire:TM and you don't need
to defend yourself for owning the book.

Alareth - Acolyte of the First Church of the Squooshy Ball
Investigator, Shadowrun Webring Internal Affairs
The Shiny Happy Gaming Group - http://www.dwebs.net/~alareth
ICQ UIN - 11468823
Message no. 15
From: Steve Eley <sfeley@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:22:27 -0400
Mark C. Farrington wrote:
>
> Last I heard, it wasn't a crime to play Vampire:TM and you don't need
> to defend yourself for owning the book.

Aha! So it was YOU who kept lobbying against our Senate bill banning all
games using ten-sided dice!

You may have won in the short term, Farrington, but it's not over yet...


Have Fun,
- Steve Eley (Those ten-sided suckers are sharp, you know!)
sfeley@***.net
Message no. 16
From: Grunion <mrgone@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Pusher (was: Re: Invisibilty spell:)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:12:12 -0700
Mark C. Farrington wrote:

> Last I heard, it wasn't a crime to play Vampire:TM and you don't need
> to defend yourself for owning the book.

I didn't say it was, and I wasn't, I just don't personally like gothic
stuff nor that particular game and wanted to make that clear. That and I
was delusional from lack of sleep which tends to make me paranoid.
--
"You said you were the king of liars,
And I believed you and called you sire,
But now I realize that I have been decieved."
-They Might Be Giants

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