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Message no. 1
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:41:32 +0100
I believe that some time ago, someone posted that some chapters that were
cut from RA:S are available on the web; at www.shadowland.org if I'm not
mistaken, but as I can't find the post that mentioned the URL (I'm _sure_
I saved it...) and that @*&#*%&#^ new user/login thingie at Shadowland is
really getting on my nerves -- why the hell does it need that anyway? and
who is using my nick to log into it? -- could someone kindly point me to a
URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a user account
or anything stupid like that?

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Message no. 2
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:27:41 +1000
At 12:41 PM 1/17/99 +0100, you wrote:
>I believe that some time ago, someone posted that some chapters that were
>cut from RA:S are available on the web; at www.shadowland.org if I'm not
>mistaken, but as I can't find the post that mentioned the URL (I'm _sure_
>I saved it...) and that @*&#*%&#^ new user/login thingie at Shadowland is
>really getting on my nerves -- why the hell does it need that anyway? and
>who is using my nick to log into it? -- could someone kindly point me to a
>URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a user account
>or anything stupid like that?

Try http://www.shadowland.org under the Scream Sheet heading, and yes, they
can be downloaded without having a user account, just scroll down a bit.

(>)ARKHAM
"Pop-quiz hotshot: Five hundred Storm Troopers on jetpacks fly down from
the hole in the ceiling. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!"
Message no. 3
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 08:52:05 -0600
From: Gurth
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 5:42 AM

>I believe that some time ago, someone posted that some chapters
>that were cut from RA:S are available on the web; at
>www.shadowland.org if I'm not mistaken, but as I can't find the
>post that mentioned the URL....

Try this one:

http://www.fasa.com/preview/10155/preview10155.html

Gives you links to the three chapters, but I can't remember where the
page is that shows what order or offers the Cast of Shadows.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 4
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 10:59:24 EST
In a message dated 1/17/1999 6:51:33 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.NL writes:

> could someone kindly point me to a
> URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a user account
> or anything stupid like that?
>
Interesting, *I* don't have that problem with regards to using the link from
the "Resonant Section" on HHH Gurth (and yes, I did ask Dave Hyatt about
creating such).

-K
Message no. 5
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:43:59 -0600
From: K in the Shadows
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 9:59 AM

>> could someone kindly point me to a
>> URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a
>> user account or anything stupid like that?
>>
>Interesting, *I* don't have that problem with regards to using
>the link from the "Resonant Section" on HHH Gurth (and yes, I did
>ask Dave Hyatt about creating such).

I can't *find* that section on HHH at the moment, K. Is it part of
what's under construction?

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 6
From: "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:14:43 -0600
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:41:32 +0100 Gurth <gurth@******.NL> writes:
>I believe that some time ago, someone posted that some chapters that
were
>cut from RA:S are available on the web; at www.shadowland.org if I'm not
>mistaken, but as I can't find the post that mentioned the URL (I'm
_sure_
>I saved it...) and that @*&#*%&#^ new user/login thingie at Shadowland
is
>really getting on my nerves -- why the hell does it need that anyway?
and
>who is using my nick to log into it? -- could someone kindly point me to
a
>URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a user account
>or anything stupid like that?

It's on FASA's webpage ... go to the catalog, select whatever subsection
RA:S is under (Adventures/sourcebooks?) and then click on RA:S' entry and
there should be a preview link there. That should take you to the cut
chapters.

Dave Hyatt has some extra stuff that was never (AFAIK) going to be in
RA:S up at his site. Just go to www.shadowland.org and click on the
screamsheet icon instead of the others (you shouldn't need to create a
new account ... I didn't.).

--
D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
"We called him Mother Superior because of the length of his habit" --
Trainspotting
"A magician is always 'touching' himself" --Page 123, Grimoire (2nd
Edition)

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Message no. 7
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:24:24 +0100
According to K in the Shadows, at 10:59 on 17 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> Interesting, *I* don't have that problem with regards to using the link from
> the "Resonant Section" on HHH Gurth (and yes, I did ask Dave Hyatt about
> creating such).

Well, I pointed my browser to www.shadowland.org and perhaps it's me, but
I couldn't find anything that I could do without being logged in -- apart
from look at things like the "user guide" which is rather silly to put
_outside_ the "secure" area in the first place, I think, seeing as how it
doesn't really apply there as far as I could see...

--
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And that's as far as the conversation went.
-> NERPS Project Leader * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

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Message no. 8
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:46:56 -0500
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At 12:41 PM 1/17/99 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>I believe that some time ago, someone posted that some chapters that
were
>cut from RA:S are available on the web; at www.shadowland.org if I'm
not
>mistaken, but as I can't find the post that mentioned the URL (I'm
_sure_
>I saved it...) and that @*&#*%&#^ new user/login thingie at
Shadowland is
>really getting on my nerves -- why the hell does it need that anyway?
and
>who is using my nick to log into it? -- could someone kindly point me
to a
>URL where they can be downloaded WITHOUT having to create a user
account
>or anything stupid like that?

I knew I'd have to post this one again:

Renraku Arcology: Shutdown's author, David Hyatt has links to the
"missing chapters" at:


http://www.shadowland.org/Shadowland/Private%20Campaigns/objects/page256

1.html

(the above URL has been wordwrapped, and you'll need to cut & paste it
back together.)

And the chapters can also be found at:

http://www.fasa.com/preview/10155/preview10155.html



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Message no. 9
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology: Shutdown chapters
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:47:53 EST
In a message dated 1/17/1999 12:44:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
remo@***.NET writes:

>
> >Interesting, *I* don't have that problem with regards to using
> >the link from the "Resonant Section" on HHH Gurth (and yes, I did
> >ask Dave Hyatt about creating such).
>
> I can't *find* that section on HHH at the moment, K. Is it part of
> what's under construction?

Actually, no, you can reach it.

Tech (Science, Tech, Vehicles) ... then "Matrix" (which that image is going to
get cleaned up soon) ... then "Resonant" stuff. There is an image from the
Shadowlands site actually (with a slight modification, again after speaking
with David and since it is being used to link to there), and that image is the
link to "Screamsheet".

-K
Message no. 10
From: David Hyatt <hyatt@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology Shutdown Chapters
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:08:04 -0800
Gurth wrote:

> Well, I pointed my browser to www.shadowland.org and perhaps it's me,
but
> I couldn't find anything that I could do without being logged in --
apart
> from look at things like the "user guide" which is rather silly to put

> _outside_ the "secure" area in the first place, I think, seeing as how
it
> doesn't really apply there as far as I could see...

The chapters are found on FASA's Web site. They aren't on Shadowland.
You can go to the catalog entry for Renraku and select Preview to see
the chapters. If you're wondering where to fit the sections (in terms
of where they originally were in the book), Open Forum followed
Subversion, The Ork Underground was originally the first half of Rats in
the Walls, and I forget now where Media Reaction was going to go. :)

Shadowland's user guide is accessible from the outside because it
contains sections on troubleshooting the login and account creation
process (since some people need to tweak their Web browsers' settings to
get things working properly).

The Screamsheet site has some supplemental Renraku material, and it is
kept separate from Shadowland. You don't need a user account to view it
(the main area of SL has nothing to offer but forums for online gaming;
hence the login screen right up front). You can reach it either from
the Shadowland home page or by just going directly to
http://www.shadowland.org/screamsheet.

Hope this helps!
Dave
(hyatt@********.com)
Message no. 11
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology Shutdown Chapters
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:04:55 +0100
According to David Hyatt, at 1:08 on 18 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> The chapters are found on FASA's Web site. They aren't on Shadowland.

Yep, I downloaded them yesterday night after pointers from the list. And
now I'm bitching about all this anyway, why do FASA call them "previews"
when they're actually supplementary chapters? :)

> You can go to the catalog entry for Renraku and select Preview to see
> the chapters. If you're wondering where to fit the sections (in terms
> of where they originally were in the book), Open Forum followed
> Subversion, The Ork Underground was originally the first half of Rats in
> the Walls, and I forget now where Media Reaction was going to go. :)

Okay, thanks, this'll help me put them in the right places.

> The Screamsheet site has some supplemental Renraku material, and it is
> kept separate from Shadowland. You don't need a user account to view it
> (the main area of SL has nothing to offer but forums for online gaming;
> hence the login screen right up front). You can reach it either from
> the Shadowland home page or by just going directly to
> http://www.shadowland.org/screamsheet.

You may want to put some extra information at the index page, because I
have a feeling there are more people like me who don't have the luxury of
unlimited, free internet access and thus want to be able to see where they
need to go quickly, rather than trying every possible link until they find
what they want...

> Hope this helps!

It did.

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Message no. 12
From: Paul Gettle <RunnerPaul@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Renraku Arcology Shutdown Chapters
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:19:59 -0500
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At 01:08 AM 1/18/99 -0800, Dave Hyatt wrote:
>The chapters are found on FASA's Web site. They aren't on
Shadowland.
>You can go to the catalog entry for Renraku and select Preview to see
>the chapters. If you're wondering where to fit the sections (in
terms
>of where they originally were in the book), Open Forum followed
>Subversion, The Ork Underground was originally the first half of Rats
in
>the Walls, and I forget now where Media Reaction was going to go. :)

Well, if we go by what you put on the intro page to your Renraku
Arcology: Shutdown Online Game, on Shadowland, the Spin Doctoring
chapter is supposed to go right before On The Outside Looking In,
which puts it right after where you add in the Open Forum chapter. It
does fit pretty good there, since the last section of Spin Doctoring
is a media feed that never was broadcast because the army intervened,
and On the Outside shows us how the Powers that Be in Seattle found
out that the Army would be stepping in to handle the matter.


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