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Message no. 1
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Second Cold War (Southerner's Rant part 2)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:51:41 -0400
Once upon a time, Jon Szeto wrote;

>Okay. Time out. Let's get back to the original point of contention, the
>retconning of the Stonewall. The reason that Mike and I killed the Stonewall
>has nothing to do with our (individual) perceptions of either the South or
>the CAS.

<snip Jon's reasons>

>We now return you to your regularly scheduled rant.

OK, here I go again.
I can find Jon's excuse viable but Mike's explanation reeks of
cultural bias and fails to consider the South's precarious existence.

>>Time
>>proved that the CAS did not the ability to manufacture such a vehicle, this
>>allowed the CAS to import other SOTA designs and catch up with the rest of
>>North America strictly by purchasing everything.

Had to catch up with the rest of North America? So all of the NAN
were ahead of the South? Bull! After the succession the South was on par
with UCAS and split rather peacefully. Every connection UCAS had CAS had.
This would begin to differ as Aztlan invades and seizes part of Texas and
the Vocal threats now and again of the UCAS of reseizing CAS. The fact is
the CAS has more hostile borders than the UCAS. The places the CAS in the
position of the USA during the post WW2 Cold War without an ocean to
separate them from the enemy (enemies). The USA's military strength and
advancement was highly developed during the Cold War because of perceived
need. The CAS has the same belief if not more so. By 205X CAS would not
have needed to catch up, they would all ready be at the forefront.
As far as some people arguing about where that technology wouldn't
be developed in the South also doesn't affect things much because the
South would be a primary candidate of new war technology, and yes more so
than the UCAS.
The real question, if the Stonewall was a diversion what did they
really have in the works? Also ponder the fact that Aztlan and even UCAS
would have spent enormous amounts of money trying to develop their own
LAV MBT out of fear of being technologically out maneuvered. Like I said,
the is the Second Cold War.

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"CYNIC, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are,
not as they ought to be."
-The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

I am MC23
Message no. 2
From: Machine-gun Kelly <MgkellyMP5@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Second Cold War (Southerner's Rant part 2)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:18:20 EDT
In a message dated 98-07-19 12:52:25 EDT, you write:

> The real question, if the Stonewall was a diversion what did they
> really have in the works? Also ponder the fact that Aztlan and even UCAS
> would have spent enormous amounts of money trying to develop their own
> LAV MBT out of fear of being technologically out maneuvered. Like I said,
> the is the Second Cold War.
>

Personal opinion, I would imagine that the CAS would be pouring a lot of cred
into the military industries, given that they have Aztlan right next door and
have lost a chunk of their territory to them. And they know that the Azzies
want the rest to go along with it.
Example, think of Israel. Six hostile nations on all sides. Everyone serves in
the military once they come of age and, in some parts, people are encouraged
to carry weapons openly. Not just pistols either, but M-16's and Uzi's.

Mgkelly
Message no. 3
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Second Cold War (Southerner's Rant part 2)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 02:48:35 EDT
In a message dated 7/19/1998 11:52:20 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
mc23@**********.COM writes:

> The real question, if the Stonewall was a diversion what did they
> really have in the works? Also ponder the fact that Aztlan and even UCAS
> would have spent enormous amounts of money trying to develop their own
> LAV MBT out of fear of being technologically out maneuvered. Like I said,
> the is the Second Cold War.

Now -this- is an interesting thoughts. If you know any of them, find a member
of my PBEM for a possible answer.... :)

-K
Message no. 4
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Second Cold War (Southerner's Rant part 2)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:20:21 -0400
At 12:51 PM 7/19/98 -0400, you wrote:

> As far as some people arguing about where that technology wouldn't
>be developed in the South also doesn't affect things much because the
>South would be a primary candidate of new war technology, and yes more so
>than the UCAS.

Well, okay, that's true. I think FASA has said that the CAS has the larger
of the two armies and that they are experiencing budget strain because of
the cold war with Aztlan and their large military budgets.

> The real question, if the Stonewall was a diversion what did they
>really have in the works?

Now that's an interesting question. Could be damn near anything.

Erik J.


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Message no. 5
From: Mike Bobroff <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Second Cold War (Southerner's Rant part 2)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 15:53:04 EDT
In a message dated 7/20/98 2:27:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time, erikj@****.COM
writes:

> > As far as some people arguing about where that technology wouldn't
> >be developed in the South also doesn't affect things much because the
> >South would be a primary candidate of new war technology, and yes more so
> >than the UCAS.
>
> Well, okay, that's true. I think FASA has said that the CAS has the larger
> of the two armies and that they are experiencing budget strain because of
> the cold war with Aztlan and their large military budgets.

Now, isn't that a thought, the only question is, is who is going to be the one
to crumble, and with all due apologies, I don't think Aztlan is going to be
the one to collapse.

> > The real question, if the Stonewall was a diversion what did they
> >really have in the works?
>
> Now that's an interesting question. Could be damn near anything.
>

How about the CAS has some Sub-orbitals with which they use to launch THORS
from very high up in the atmosphere?

-Herc
-------- The Best Mechanic you can ever have.

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