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Message no. 1
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:27:14 +0100
According to Martin Steffens, on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> Martin
> - Who can't wait for a Shadowrunners of Cathan supplement -

How about this in the mean time...


SHADOWRUNNERS OF CATAN -- A Sixth World Version of SETTLERS OF CATAN

This follows all the normal rules for Settlers of Catan, only the playing
pieces and some of the terminology needs to be modified as outlined below
(note that I'm working from a Dutch version of the game here, so some of
the terms I use may differ from the English translation). Modifying the
cards and actual playing pieces is pretty much a must, IMO, but who's going
to draw all that?

Settlers of Catan Shadowrunners of Catan
--------------------------------------------

Playing Pieces
Road Maglev Train Link
Village Compound
City Arcology

Development Cards
Buildings
Cathedral Teocali
Library R&D Division
Marketplace Mall
Parliament Headquarters
University University
Knight Security Forces
Progress Progress

Land Tiles
Farmland Greenhouses
Fields Wilderness
Forests Industrial Parks
Hills Corporate Enclaves
Mountains Barrens
Ports Ports or Smuggling Havens

Materials
Bricks Wageslaves
Grain Nutrisoy
Ore Nuyen
Wood Steel
Wool Mana

Misc.
Bank Zurich-Orbital
Robber Shadowrunners

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Message no. 2
From: Graht graht@******.net
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:28:35 -0700
Gurth wrote:
>According to Martin Steffens, on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 the word on the street
>was...
>
> > Martin
> > - Who can't wait for a Shadowrunners of Cathan supplement -
>
>How about this in the mean time...
>
>
>SHADOWRUNNERS OF CATAN -- A Sixth World Version of SETTLERS OF CATAN
>
>This follows all the normal rules for Settlers of Catan, only the playing
>pieces and some of the terminology needs to be modified as outlined below
>(note that I'm working from a Dutch version of the game here, so some of
>the terms I use may differ from the English translation). Modifying the
>cards and actual playing pieces is pretty much a must, IMO, but who's going
>to draw all that?
>
>Settlers of Catan Shadowrunners of Catan
>--------------------------------------------
>
>Playing Pieces
> Road Maglev Train Link
> Village Compound
> City Arcology
>
>Development Cards
> Buildings
> Cathedral Teocali
> Library R&D Division
> Marketplace Mall
> Parliament Headquarters
> University University
> Knight Security Forces
> Progress Progress
>
>Land Tiles
> Farmland Greenhouses
> Fields Wilderness
> Forests Industrial Parks
> Hills Corporate Enclaves
> Mountains Barrens
> Ports Ports or Smuggling Havens
>
>Materials
> Bricks Wageslaves
> Grain Nutrisoy
> Ore Nuyen
> Wood Steel
> Wool Mana
>
>Misc.
> Bank Zurich-Orbital
> Robber Shadowrunners

I LOVE IT! :):):):)

Instead of Compound, how about Highrise, or Office Building, or...
corportate something. When I think compound, I see a military compound in
my mind's eye.

I'm going to have to borrow a friend's (Gurth, remember Chuck? :) copy of
Settler's and work on this making a working version :)

-Graht
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Message no. 3
From: Martin Steffens marste@*********.com
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:39:34 -0800
From: Gurth

> SHADOWRUNNERS OF CATAN -- A Sixth World Version of SETTLERS OF CATAN
[snip whole rule description]

Brilliant! A redesign of all the cards, counters and placing pieces
and you basically have a SR version where you play a megacorp. Now
I just need some time with Photoshop...

Martin
- Who wonders what he started here -
Message no. 4
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:05:38 +0100
According to Graht, on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

[snip three PageDowns]
What is this, a "Me Too!" reply? ;)

> I LOVE IT! :):):):)

Glad to see the half-hour I spent on it wasn't completely wasted :)

> Instead of Compound, how about Highrise, or Office Building, or...
> corportate something. When I think compound, I see a military compound in
> my mind's eye.

Good point. First you put up a highrise and then turn it into an arcology.
Maybe Regional Headquarters would be good. I also just thought that the
Progress cards would better be renamed SOTA, for that SR-feel :)

> I'm going to have to borrow a friend's (Gurth, remember Chuck? :)

The one in Boulder? If that's him, then I must confess that I remember his
house and his dog better than Chuck himself :)

> copy of Settler's and work on this making a working version :)

It shouldn't be too hard to do with some photographs and DTP work, but I
don't think the publishers would appreciate it being put up on the WWW, and
if I can't do that then IMO the effort would be rather wasted... :(

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Message no. 5
From: Aristotle antithesis@**********.com
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:28:16 -0500
> > Instead of Compound, how about Highrise, or Office Building, or...
> > corportate something. When I think compound, I see a
> military compound in
> > my mind's eye.
>
> Good point. First you put up a highrise and then turn it
> into an Arcology.
> Maybe Regional Headquarters would be good. I also just
> thought that the
> Progress cards would better be renamed SOTA, for that SR-feel :)

Actually if you have "Cities and Knights of Catan" you could maybe do
somethin like this..

village = corporate compound
city = corporate highrise
metropolis = arcology

also the new resource cards could be...
paper = paydata? (need a matrix resource)
coin = nuyen
cloth = armor/fashion

Some of the various buildings in the flip books would need to be renamed,
the barbarian horde in the ship could be a shadowrun group in a Banshee,
soldiers would be security, and walls could be... walls.. or wards. Also
if you use seafarers the ships could be smuggling routes.


*grin*
Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle
Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:00:08 +0100
According to Aristotle, on Tue, 14 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> Actually if you have "Cities and Knights of Catan" you could maybe do
> somethin like this..
>
> village = corporate compound
> city = corporate highrise
> metropolis = arcology

I don't have that supplement, but it's a good idea to also take it into
account :)

> also the new resource cards could be...
> paper = paydata? (need a matrix resource)
> coin = nuyen

We already had nuyen (you get it from the Barrens by exploiting the masses),
so maybe this could be black information?

> cloth = armor/fashion

I'd go for fashion.

> Some of the various buildings in the flip books would need to be renamed,
> the barbarian horde in the ship could be a shadowrun group in a Banshee,

How about an insect spirit hive setting up shop?

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Message no. 7
From: Caric caric@********.com
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:00:12 -0700
>Gurth wrote:
>>According to Martin Steffens, on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 the word on
>the street
<snip>

>>Settlers of Catan Shadowrunners of Catan
>>--------------------------------------------
>>
>>Playing Pieces
>> Road Maglev Train Link
>> Village Compound
>> City Arcology
<snip>

>I LOVE IT! :):):):)
>
>Instead of Compound, how about Highrise, or Office Building, or...
>corportate something. When I think compound, I see a military
>compound in
>my mind's eye.
>
>I'm going to have to borrow a friend's (Gurth, remember Chuck?
>:) copy of
>Settler's and work on this making a working version

I was thinking Archology instead of Village and then use Sprawl instead of
City. Metroplex would work equally well however IMHO.

~Caric
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Message no. 8
From: Aristotle antithesis@**********.com
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:03:30 -0500
>> Actually if you have "Cities and Knights of Catan" you
>> could maybe do somethin like this..


> I don't have that supplement, but it's a good idea to also
> take it into
> account :)


I don't have it either.. but a friend of a friend picked it up in Germany
and found translations of the rules on line somewhere.


On that note.. we've seen several game companies make "expansions" to the
game. They don't print any of the game pieces or rules that come with
Settlers. If you were to put up all original pieces and didn't reprint any
of the rules from the actual game I don't think anybody would mind too
much... I'd be willing to looking through my friend's copy of Cities and
Knights to get the names of all the pieces and cards for translation into
Shadowrun terms...


Seeya,
Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle
Message no. 9
From: Graht graht@******.net
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:30:01 -0700
Gurth wrote:
>According to Graht, on Mon, 13 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...
>
>[snip three PageDowns]
>What is this, a "Me Too!" reply? ;)

Sorry, I'm out of practice ;)

> > I LOVE IT! :):):):)
>
>Glad to see the half-hour I spent on it wasn't completely wasted :)

Hopefully I can waste even more time on it :)

> > Instead of Compound, how about Highrise, or Office Building, or...
> > corportate something. When I think compound, I see a military compound in
> > my mind's eye.
>
>Good point. First you put up a highrise and then turn it into an arcology.
>Maybe Regional Headquarters would be good. I also just thought that the
>Progress cards would better be renamed SOTA, for that SR-feel :)

I like the SOTA idea. And how about corporate facility in place of
village, and then regional headquarters in place of city.

> > I'm going to have to borrow a friend's (Gurth, remember Chuck? :)
>
>The one in Boulder? If that's him, then I must confess that I remember his
>house and his dog better than Chuck himself :)

Oy. I still feel bad about that dog mix up.

> > copy of Settler's and work on this making a working version :)
>
>It shouldn't be too hard to do with some photographs and DTP work, but I
>don't think the publishers would appreciate it being put up on the WWW, and
>if I can't do that then IMO the effort would be rather wasted... :(

I don't know about that. I've found several web sites with Settlers of
Catan variants. Putting up hexagonal pictures that happen to be the same
size as the SoC hexagons wouldn't be an infringement.

-Graht
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Message no. 10
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:05:11 +0100
According to Aristotle, on Wed, 15 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> On that note.. we've seen several game companies make "expansions" to the
> game. They don't print any of the game pieces or rules that come with
> Settlers. If you were to put up all original pieces and didn't reprint any
> of the rules from the actual game I don't think anybody would mind too
> much...

OTOH, I think those companies are paying some kind of license fee to
whoever owns the rights to the original game, which the creator of a
Shadowrun version wouldn't do.

> I'd be willing to looking through my friend's copy of Cities and
> Knights to get the names of all the pieces and cards for translation into
> Shadowrun terms...

Please do, even though (if I get round to making an actual SR version) I'll
keep it limited to the basic game first. That seems like enough work as it
is :)

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Message no. 11
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:51:23 +0100
According to Graht, on Thu, 16 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...

> >Good point. First you put up a highrise and then turn it into an arcology.
> >Maybe Regional Headquarters would be good. I also just thought that the
> >Progress cards would better be renamed SOTA, for that SR-feel :)
>
> I like the SOTA idea. And how about corporate facility in place of
> village, and then regional headquarters in place of city.

And then it could be upgraded to an arcology if/when we decide to also
convert the expansions.

> >It shouldn't be too hard to do with some photographs and DTP work, but I
> >don't think the publishers would appreciate it being put up on the WWW, and
> >if I can't do that then IMO the effort would be rather wasted... :(
>
> I don't know about that. I've found several web sites with Settlers of
> Catan variants. Putting up hexagonal pictures that happen to be the same
> size as the SoC hexagons wouldn't be an infringement.

But putting up the cards might be. Still, if there's already a thriving
effort to expand the game on-line, then I think we'd be fairly safe :) I
think I'll need to go look through some of my clip art CDs to find some
pictures that could be used for this...

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Message no. 12
From: Graht graht@******.net
Subject: Shadowrunners of Catan (was RE: Target: Jerusalem)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 05:49:01 -0700
Gurth wrote:
>According to Graht, on Thu, 16 Nov 2000 the word on the street was...
>
> > >Good point. First you put up a highrise and then turn it into an arcology.
> > >Maybe Regional Headquarters would be good. I also just thought that the
> > >Progress cards would better be renamed SOTA, for that SR-feel :)
> >
> > I like the SOTA idea. And how about corporate facility in place of
> > village, and then regional headquarters in place of city.
>
>And then it could be upgraded to an arcology if/when we decide to also
>convert the expansions.

Doh. I forgot the original idea I had at work. I was thinking Regional
Headquarters, and then Arcology. Drop the whole corporate facility idea
(at least for the basic rules).

To life,
-Graht
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