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From:	Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject:	Smartlink/Lasersight(was: Two-Players Group ?)
Date:	Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:26:48 +0200

Message no. 1 James Dening wrote:
> Quick firearms question - can you combine a smartlink with a laser
> sight? Doesn't say you can't, just seems too easy to me...also you'd
> have 2 things showing you where the gun was pointing - a laser dot,
> and a cross in your field of vision - wouldn't one be redundant?

I always thought that a smartlink and a smartgun gave you a crosshair in
your field of vision. Where you aim, the crosshair goes. So that would mean
that it's exactly the same (maybe a little more accurate) as a laser sight.
The red dot goes where the bullet goes. The crosshair goes where the bullet
goes.
I don't think you can use them together and gain any bonusses, since the
crosshair and the red dot would overlap eachother. It would only mark you
off as they trace the red dot back to you (only in foggy weather) and people
can see you coming as they notice a red dot on their
torso/forehead/insertrandombodypart.

Dennis

"Abashed the Devil stood,...and felt how awful Goodness is..."

From:	Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*********.com
Subject:	Smartlink/Lasersight(was: Two-Players Group ?)
Date:	Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:28:12 -0500

Message no. 2 ----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Steinmeijer <dv8@********.nl>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:26 AM
Subject: Smartlink/Lasersight(was: Two-Players Group ?)

> James Dening wrote:
> > Quick firearms question - can you combine a smartlink with a laser
> > sight? Doesn't say you can't, just seems too easy to me...also
you'd
> > have 2 things showing you where the gun was pointing - a laser
dot,
> > and a cross in your field of vision - wouldn't one be redundant?

No, you can't use them together. See below.

> I always thought that a smartlink and a smartgun gave you a
crosshair in
> your field of vision. Where you aim, the crosshair goes. So that
would mean
> that it's exactly the same (maybe a little more accurate) as a laser
sight.
> The red dot goes where the bullet goes. The crosshair goes where the
bullet
> goes.

> I don't think you can use them together and gain any bonusses, since
the
> crosshair and the red dot would overlap eachother. It would only
mark you
> off as they trace the red dot back to you (only in foggy weather)
and people
> can see you coming as they notice a red dot on their
> torso/forehead/insertrandombodypart.

(SR3 p.281 -- Under Laser Sight) "Laser sights may not be used with a
smartlink system, ..."

'Nuff said.

Da Twink Daddy
bss03@*******.uark.edu
ICQ# 514984

From:	runnerpaul@***.com runnerpaul@***.com
Subject:	Smartlink/Lasersight [was: Two-Players Group ?]
Date:	Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:44:57 -0400 (EDT)

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At 03:56 PM 6/29/99 +0100, James Dening wrote:
>Quick firearms question - can you combine a smartlink with a laser
>sight? Doesn't say you can't,

Oh, it doesn't?

BBB3, p.281 - Laser Sight
"Laser sights may not be used with a smartlink system, ..."

BBB2, p.240 - Laser Sight
"Such sights may not be used with any kind of smartlink system."

BBB1, p.120 - Laser Sights
"Such sights may not be used with smart guns or goggles."

:)

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From:	David Hinkley dhinkley@***.org
Subject:	Smartlink/Lasersight(was: Two-Players Group ?)
Date:	Fri, 2 Jul 1999 00:38:37 -0700

Message no. 4 From: "Dennis Steinmeijer" <dv8@********.nl>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Subject: Smartlink/Lasersight(was: Two-Players Group ?)
Date sent: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:26:48 +0200
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> James Dening wrote:
> > Quick firearms question - can you combine a smartlink with a laser
> > sight? Doesn't say you can't, just seems too easy to me...also you'd
> > have 2 things showing you where the gun was pointing - a laser dot,
> > and a cross in your field of vision - wouldn't one be redundant?
>
> I always thought that a smartlink and a smartgun gave you a crosshair in
> your field of vision. Where you aim, the crosshair goes. So that would mean
> that it's exactly the same (maybe a little more accurate) as a laser sight.
> The red dot goes where the bullet goes. The crosshair goes where the bullet
> goes.

Not presisely, With a smartlink, the aim point appears where the
smarklint electronics THINKS the bullet will go based on where the weapon is
pointed. 95+% of the time that is where the bullet will hit. The problem lies
with objects that are between the gun and the target may not appear in the
shooters field of vision.

For example, the PC is in a firefight in a restaurant, and shooting a
combat slung smartlinked smg at waist height. He sees the target, lines up the
aim point and pulls the trigger, the bullets hit the back of a chair that is
between the muzzle and target. Or outside the bullets are deflected by
vegitation or large rocks.

While I would not try to factor it in to the combat system, I would apply it
by GM fiat under two conditions, one to permit the escape of key villians so
they are available later. And the other when it would add color and not effect
the final result. The latter as to camoflage the former.

David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org

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