| From: | shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrun) |
|---|---|
| Subject: | sniper rifles ( was munchkin) |
| Date: | Tue Oct 16 01:35:04 2001 |
derek replied
> Very true....there are places that people use old assault
rifles as
> sniper rifles but the debate was an actual sniper rifle
being fully
> auto, as you said there's a world of difference in
caliber, the barret
> is a .50 cal BUT unless I'm wrong (which is possible) the
walther fires
> 7.62 (.308 cal) which is the same as what a AK-47 shoots
unless it's
> using the nato 7.62 in which the round is a few mm shorter
(I believe
> it's 3 or 4 but I don't know that one for sure)
regardless as a sniper
> you wouldn't be carrying mortar rounds, you would have
flares (maybe 2)
> you'd have up to 3 days worth of MRE's, you'd only carry 5
mags (and
> that's assuming that you plan on needing that much ammo),
a weapon
> cleaning kit, some form of commo, a basic medical kit
(field dressing
> and tourniquet), ghillie suit, and facial camo, perhaps a
change of
> BDU's
very rarely is there scope to have a specialist sniper in an
irregular conflict , it is more about langstap -( the big
walk ) to find your foe , which normally meant that you went
walkabout , with everything you had and hopefully everything
you needed , (hence the 8 clips 20-30 rounds in each) , your
loot had a mortar and well you know it's like giving a kid a
toy to play with , so you carried ammo , ( at least it
wasn't the base plate , but you could ditch rounds before op
if you get the time ) flares were pootjiefakkels ( pocket
flares about the size of a pen) medpack didn't weigh in much
, it was the water that weighed the most ( 4 litres a day is
suggested intake when you've been there a month or so- but
if your new you need up to about 8 )
when you are aware of your foe , you ditch kit , as much as
possible , while realising if the fan develops an excrement
problem , you probably won't be going back for it , so you
keep your ammo , your water and one day of supplies , your
medical stuff , rain shelter (more for sun than rain) and
the like , and you definitely keep your grenades
> but you're going to have stashed that stuff all at your
fall back
> point where you'd start sneaking up from cause you can't
low crawl and
> hide easily with a 80lb ruck on your back and that's just
an estimate.
> Another thing to think about is that if you were sniping
in the squad
> you'd be backed up by people that're carrying grenade
launchers, fully
> auto light machine guns, and more regular assault rifles.
If you're
> worried about sniping effectively then you'll just have to
go play with
> your M16 and put a scope on it and hope you can pick your
targets off
> easily with it and that you've got the power to kill em
with one shot.
> It still stands that it's possible to design a fully auto
sniper rifle
> (since the M2 Browning HMG and the Barret sniper rifle
both fire the
> same exact round and as someone already mentioned, the M2
has been
> proven to be able to snipe at up to 2km away when the
scope is mounted
> and sighted in properly for the weapon.
>
okay exactly how portable is the M2 browning , is a two or
three man crew (ain't it normally vehicle mountings) , ain't
gonna happen in irregular conflict , barrett has it's uses
but they are very specialised quick insertion kills of
predicted possibly static targets followed by extraction ,
even walther is limited in it's uses to a specialised arena
, what is needed is a functional lightweight design using a
small calibre round , self loading would be an asset , auto
fire for emergencies even better, which could double up as a
squad weapon at a push , sacrificing ROF for accuracy ,
weighing in at fractions of current arms in the market
big bullets don't kill any more than small bullets ( if you
need to hit a tank commander get an anti-tank weapon or call
for artillery/air support) if your target is armoured wait
until he isn't , a fifty cal round is a paper weight ( and a
big one) with a .222 (5.56(?)mm )your sniper could easily
carry between 3 or 12 rounds to a single round of other
sniping weapons , and believe me i have been hit ( right leg
, punctured through leg breaking the femur then decided to
exit my leg by the shortest route ) and it is take down ( no
fire is more accurate than friendly ) , in the real world
even little bullets do the job , had i of been less
fortunate say body instead , i don't dwell on that thought
for long and it reminds me how lucky i am
Kanniemeernie Korperaal , military pacifist
the aliens did not abduct him but instead left a sign
hanging around his neck
"sorry we were looking for intelligent life and took this by
mistake"
