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Message no. 1
From: The Digital Mage <kajohnson@*******.TEC.WI.US>
Subject: The Digital Mage does America
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:50:18 -0500
Hello there people!!!!!!!! 'Tis the Digital Mage returned (though only very
briefly) and I'm actually in the US!!!!!

I hear that a 3rd edition Shadowrun is on the horizon, well I would
obviously like to see the grounding issue put to rest either way, and if it
disagrees with my wonderful article ('The Divide' at my archived web site)
then I'll just sulk :)

Apart from that I don't think much is broke. The only thing is in magic
elemental effects - I think for Damaging Manipulations the secondary
effects test should not be dependent on object resistance. As far as I am
aware the spell actually creates the element before applying it to the
target, therefore the test should be based upon GM discretion with only a
set of guidelines given.

E.g. for fire roll 2D6 apply 2nd effects if result greater than or equal to:
Open Gasoline: 2
Gasoline in sealed container: 5
etc

For water:
Computer or other exposed electrical equipment: 2
Sealed electrical equipment (e.g. cyberdeck in improved casing): 5
etc


By the way you have Gossamer to thank for allowing me the time to say hi,
so appreciation is due there!

AS for me well I've been in the states since 7/7/97, NYC and Chicago ( teh
lovely CZ :) have been visited and hopefully I'll make GenCon if I can
afford it and find room!

Till then fare thee well fine people!!!

The Digital Mage aka Grant Erswell
Message no. 2
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: The Digital Mage does America
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 21:28:41 EDT
On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:50:18 -0500 The Digital Mage
<kajohnson@*******.TEC.WI.US> writes:

<<Hello there people!!!!!!!! 'Tis the Digital Mage returned (though only
very briefly) and I'm actually in the US!!!!!>>


Kewl:) Got anything good to say about this wonderful country?


<<I hear that a 3rd edition Shadowrun is on the horizon, well I would
obviously like to see the grounding issue put to rest either way, and if
it disagrees with my wonderful article ('The Divide' at my archived web
site) then I'll just sulk :)>>





<<Apart from that I don't think much is broke. The only thing is in magic
elemental effects - I think for Damaging Manipulations the secondary
effects test should not be dependent on object resistance. As far as I am
aware the spell actually creates the element before applying it to the
target, therefore the test should be based upon GM discretion with only a
set of guidelines given.>>
<tables snipped>


Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Mention of Damaging Manipulations
reminds me: the Grimmy says they've got to have Elemental effects
(actually, it just says that they 'always' have them, even so...), and
gives an explanation that is only a little more complicated than 'just
because' :) What I'm wondering is the exact reasoning behind this (other
than game balance). I would just like a basic reasoning behind why it is
that, btb, you cannot create a mana-based DM. Or one that is simply
physical.


<<By the way you have Gossamer to thank for allowing me the time to say
hi, so appreciation is due there!>>


Thanks Gossamer! <big thumbs-up to Gossamer>


<<AS for me well I've been in the states since 7/7/97, NYC and Chicago (
teh lovely CZ :) have been visited and hopefully I'll make GenCon if I
can afford it and find room!>>


Yet another reason I would love to go to GenCon, I would love to be able
to meet some of you people:) But, alas, not this year (neither enough
cash, nor enough time, nor enough transportation :(


<<Till then fare thee well fine people!!!>>


Good luck, hope to be seeing you back on the list soon.


--
-Canthros
I had rather believe all the fables in the legends and the Talmud
and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind.
--Francis Bacon
http://members.aol.com/canthros1
Message no. 3
From: "Bruce H. Nagel" <NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Digital Mage does America
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:57:43 -0500
You wrote:
> Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Mention of Damaging Manipulations
> reminds me: the Grimmy says they've got to have Elemental effects
> (actually, it just says that they 'always' have them, even so...), and
> gives an explanation that is only a little more complicated than 'just
> because' :) What I'm wondering is the exact reasoning behind this (other
> than game balance). I would just like a basic reasoning behind why it is
> that, btb, you cannot create a mana-based DM. Or one that is simply
> physical.
Because manipulations don't damage things/people through their aura directly,
that is the exclusive domain (the definition, in fact) of Combat Spells. A
damaging manipulation causes damage not to the target, but by making something
which damages the target (a blast of fire, ice, sand, air, electricity,
whatever). It works through a medium.

losthalo

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