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From:	Max Rible <slothman@*********.ORG>
Subject:	T:SH: UCAS Navy in the Pacific?
Date:	Thu, 11 Jun 1998 10:25:40 -0800

Message no. 1 In Target: Smuggler's Havens, there's a mention of a UCAS naval presence
in the Pacific. How big do you folks think it is, and where is it based?
(I don't remember any navy bases in the original Seattle sourcebook, and
that's the only West Coast site belonging to the UCAS, unless they kept
some of the island territories. When my runners were in Hawai'i recently,
I decided that Midway was a refuelling stop administered by the Corporate
Court, but maybe that's where the UCAS Navy has their Pacific fleet based?)

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From:	"Blair A. Monroe" <bmonroe@******.FSU.EDU>
Subject:	Re: T:SH: UCAS Navy in the Pacific?
Date:	Thu, 11 Jun 1998 15:12:46 -0400

Message no. 2 At 10:25 AM 6/11/98 -0800, Max Rible wrote:
>In Target: Smuggler's Havens, there's a mention of a UCAS naval presence
>in the Pacific. How big do you folks think it is, and where is it based?
>(I don't remember any navy bases in the original Seattle sourcebook, and
>that's the only West Coast site belonging to the UCAS, unless they kept
>some of the island territories. When my runners were in Hawai'i recently,
>I decided that Midway was a refuelling stop administered by the Corporate
>Court, but maybe that's where the UCAS Navy has their Pacific fleet based?)
>

It's been a while since I read the Seattle Sourcebook, but I do seem to
remember a reference to the northern most district (Everett I believe)
having a naval base. The UCAS may also have managed to retain port rights
at some of its old naval bases along the Pacific coast or in Hawaii, but I
doubt it as most of the new countries seemed to want them OUT! (in capital
letters) Other possibilites that come to mind are the pacific territories
(Guam, American Samoa, Saipan, Midway, etc.) or base sharing agreements in
Korea, Japan, Australia and so on. I would think Japan itself is unlikely,
but Korea, Australia, China, Russia and some of the other countries along
the Pacific Rim might be willing to host a minor UCAS naval presence if
only to annoy corporate Japan or other competing interests.

I do think that Guam would be one of the best options. It has traditionaly
had a heavy military population (about 2/3 Navy, 1/3 Air Force would be my
guess for when I lived there in the late eighties) and is currently a full
U.S. territory (rather than a trust or possession). Residents of Guam are
currently U.S. citizens, they just don't get the level of representation in
national issues that state residents get. I do not recall any references
to it breaking free from the US/UCAS and as dependant as GovGuam was on the
military when I was there (Navy Public Works provided significant portions
of the water and electrical power used by the civilian population) I doubt
they would have ever gotten around to doing so themselves unless corporate
interests stepped in and outright took the island over or the UCAS decided
to pull out and abandon them.

I also seem to remember a statement in the history section of the main SR
book that as of sometime in the mid-2030s the UCAS had no military presence
outside North America. If this is the case, the foreign ports used by UCAS
naval ships in the Pacific may very well have been arranged with their host
nations in the last ten to fifteen years and therefore have no need to be
tied to where the US has bases today.

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