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Message no. 1
From: Mike Loseke <MLoseke@*****.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 09:32:59 MST
One of the players in our group had an interesting and shocking revelation
last night: The Universal Brotherhood is actually Amway!

Doctor Doom: your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to ask the
Dark Lord on High if this is indeed true. "Is the UB the Amway of 2054?"

Legion
Bringing scary thoughts to the edge of reality.
Message no. 2
From: "S. Keith Graham" <vapspcx@***.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood...
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:03:47 -0500
NO! They're the scientologists.. :-)

Keith Graham
vapspcx@***.gatech.edu
Message no. 3
From: Arndt Kraft <kraftat@******.INFORMATIK.UNI-STUTTGART.DE>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 10:19:11 +0100
> One of the players in our group had an interesting and shocking revelation
> last night: The Universal Brotherhood is actually Amway!
^^^^^^
What is an Amway ???

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Message no. 4
From: Rob Kean <rkean@****.net>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:31:38 -0400
Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this book???

It wasn't listed in the catalog my gaming store uses to order stuff. the
owner said that he'd try to find it for me, but....

I slowly intoducing my characters to the "bugs". [the campaign just started].
They don't know it, yet, but their going to end up in chicago pretty soon
[one way or
another =-) ]

thanks.
rob
Message no. 5
From: mbroadwa@*******.glenayre.com (Mike Broadwater)
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:50:31 -0500
>Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this book???
Check a big con. It's no longer in publication, and hasn't been for some
time. If you happen to find a place with more than one copy, tell me. I
borrowed this from a friend several years ago, and it is still my favorite
supplement.

Mike Broadwater
http://www.olemiss.edu/~neon
"You only need two things in this world. WD40 to make things go, and duct
tape to make them stop."
Message no. 6
From: "Blair A. Monroe" <bmonroe@******.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:56:37 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 9 Apr 1996, Mike Broadwater wrote:

> >Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this book???
> Check a big con. It's no longer in publication, and hasn't been for some
> time. If you happen to find a place with more than one copy, tell me. I
> borrowed this from a friend several years ago, and it is still my favorite
> supplement.

Same goes here...I've been trying to find a copy for some time without
any luck...it's the only official shadowrun product (not including the
novels) that I don't have.

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Message no. 7
From: Larry <lomion@********.net>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:40:25 -0400
At 11:31 04/09/96 -0400, Rob Kean wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this book???
>
>It wasn't listed in the catalog my gaming store uses to order stuff. the
>owner said that he'd try to find it for me, but....
>
>I slowly intoducing my characters to the "bugs". [the campaign just
started].
>They don't know it, yet, but their going to end up in chicago pretty soon
>[one way or
>another =-) ]
>
>thanks.
>rob
Far as i know UB is out of print, it's a great find tho if you can get it.
The fiction piece is one of the best they've ever done and the adventure
isn't bad either. I still have my copy (stroking it gently). Personally i
thikn it's the best piece they put out as a sourcebook for sheer talent and
creativity (the thing gave me the wilies when I first read it)
Larry Sica
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Message no. 8
From: Damon Wilson <damontw@****.com>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 16:31 MDT
At 04:40 PM 4/10/96 -0400, Larry Sica wrote:

>Far as i know UB is out of print, it's a great find tho if you can get it.
>The fiction piece is one of the best they've ever done and the adventure
>isn't bad either. I still have my copy (stroking it gently). Personally i
>thikn it's the best piece they put out as a sourcebook for sheer talent and
>creativity (the thing gave me the wilies when I first read it)
> Larry Sica
>lomion@**.cybernex.net
>http://www2.cybernex.net/~lomion

AH, I am glad I am not the only one that had that reaction. We played UB
about 4 days after it came out. We started playing it on Friday night. We
got the "fiction piece" at the end of the session. (We were all sort of
scared, the GM has a flare for giving us the creeps anyways). The Decker
took home the fictional piece and we played again at Noon on Saturday. He
took a half hour giving us a rundown on the ...book...it is JAM PACKED. I
was playing the magic-user (read: Cat Shaman) and took the book outta his
hands and the character WOULD NOT let it out of his hands until he was done
with it. We were scared out of our minds. During the final battle, my Shaman
did a spirit control test with the Fly Queen and fraggin' won! His next
action was to dispell the spirit. My GM informed me that the Spy Totem had
already began to "re-work" my character's astral template. I babbled
something like "What?" or really comparible. He told me that my poor little
character had a Fly leg from just below the knee on his left leg. Bummer. I
tried Clonal regrowth. six weeks later the leg sarted to mutate into a fly
leg again. Grumbling, the character went uinder the laser-scalpel and had
half a cyber leg installed. Problem solved. That was a hard-earned lesson
for both me and the character to NOT frag with insect spirits.

Geez, looks I rattled on a bit....back to other stuff Shadowrun related...

Damon Wilson

damontw@****.com
Message no. 9
From: David <datheis@**********.NET>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:42:26 -0600
Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
fall apart. Anyone, anyone?

E-mail me personally, if you know of one, at datheis@**********.net.

Thanks for your help,
David

"If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride...
of course, the gun-fire from putting all those
horses down would be down-right deafening!"
- Anonymous KY cynic
(Come on, y'all! It's a broken-leg joke! Damn! Tough crowd!)
Message no. 10
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 12:06:15 +1000
> Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
> Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
> fall apart. Anyone, anyone?

You're lucky to have that. I've never even SEEN a copy.

Ray
Message no. 11
From: Shane Courtrille <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 22:47:35 +0000
> > Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
> > Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
> > fall apart. Anyone, anyone?
>
> You're lucky to have that. I've never even SEEN a copy.
>
> Ray
>
Same here.. And I would have loved to have a copy.

Shane Courtrille - hardware@*******.ab.ca
Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:24:18 +0100
David said on 19:42/24 Mar 97...

> Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
> Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
> fall apart. Anyone, anyone?

You have a copy of one of the most sought-after books ever printed for SR,
and you want another one? I'd say be careful with the copy you have...

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Message no. 13
From: Court Schuett <schuett@*****.IVCC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:12:13 -0600
> David said on 19:42/24 Mar 97...

> Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
> Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
> fall apart. Anyone, anyone?

What is the Universal Brotherhood Sourcebook? I thought it was only an
adventure. What is this book about? I've never seen it. Anyway FASA
would re-release it? UB2? :)

Thanks. :)
-Court


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Message no. 14
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:45:59 -0500
At 07:42 PM 3/24/97 -0600, David wrote these timeless words:
>Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a copy of the Universal
>Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our group, and it's about to
>fall apart. Anyone, anyone?
>
Well... I just got lucky (sort of) at the Con I just attended...

i picked up a used copy of th UB Booklet (But not the Module, Mising Blood,
that comes with it... Just the UB STory Booklet) for $1.00. i was very
happy, as that's one of my favorite stories, and what introduced the Bugs
for Bull...

I would love to get ahold of the whole module, but... i'll settle for
anything that I can get...:]

bull
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Message no. 15
From: David <datheis@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:53:58 -0600
Just finished going through Missing Blood. Almost lost two characters in
the process. Not an adventure for the faint-of-heart. I really thought we
were done for.

Picked up a load of Nuyen during it, though. Good thing, too. Had to
replace all my armor, not to mention repair a little (OK, a lot!)
cyber-damage.

Our GM has been piecing our campaign together beautifully. He led us into
this, after we went through Queen Euphoria. Hell, we're paranoid as hell,
whenever we hear buzzing now. Bugs! Bugs! Bugs!

Anyone who has been through QE, and is interested in how ours ended, e-mail
me at datheis@**********.net . It was a hoot! Try to give me some info
about the adventure you went through, so I know you've been through it. I
don't like giving away spoilers to those who haven't gone through it yet. I
find it too difficult to effectively and honestly role-play through an
adventure, if you already know a lot about it.

David
Message no. 16
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:31:47 -0800
>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:12:13 -0600
>From: Court Schuett
>Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
>To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET

>> David said on 19:42/24 Mar 97...
>
>> Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a
copy of the Universal
>> Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our
group, and it's about to
>> fall apart. Anyone, anyone?
>
>What is the Universal Brotherhood Sourcebook? I
thought it was only an
>adventure. What is this book about? I've never
seen it. Anyway FASA
>would re-release it? UB2? :)
>
>Thanks. :)
>-Court

Great sourcebook! (Yes, it is a sourcebook, more or
less) Get a copy! I read mine every once in a while
just because it is so cool. It's actually an
adventure in one book, and (the cool one) a
transcript of two journalists who investigate the UB
and discover all there deep, dark, nasty secrets in
the other. Still gives me the creeps reading it! Get
it.

Shawn
Okay, so I dig the whole
insect-spirit-as-major-bad-guy thing.


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Message no. 17
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:40:24 +0100
Court Schuett said on 14:12/25 Mar 97...

> What is the Universal Brotherhood Sourcebook? I thought it was only an
> adventure. What is this book about? I've never seen it. Anyway FASA
> would re-release it? UB2? :)

It's a two-piece pulication, one is an adventure and the other a notebook
that serves as a player hand-out. From it, the players find out a lot
about the Universal Brotherhood that wasn't known to the world in general
before Bug City happened.

Now if only I'd find a copy somewhere...

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Message no. 18
From: david lowe <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:41:03 -0800
>>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:12:13 -0600
>>From: Court Schuett
>>Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
>>To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
>
>>> David said on 19:42/24 Mar 97...
>>
>>> Does anyone know where I could find and purchase a
>copy of the Universal
>>> Brotherhood Sourcebook? We have only one in our
>group, and it's about to
>>> fall apart. Anyone, anyone?


Gosh, I've got copies of the UB sourcebook, Neo-Anarchists Guide to NA, and
both Native American Nations Sourcebooks (more great Findley stuff!). I'm
either lucky or oldŠ

D.
Message no. 19
From: Kevin Roberts <krst0023@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:21:13 -0600
Gosh, I've got copies of the UB sourcebook, Neo-Anarchists Guide to NA, and
both Native American Nations Sourcebooks (more great Findley stuff!). I'm
either lucky or old

D.
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I am a shadowrunner player.
I have not seen Universal Brotherhood.
If you have copies of this book I would like to get a copy from you.

end of line......
Message no. 20
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:54:01 +1000
> Great sourcebook! (Yes, it is a sourcebook, more or
> less) Get a copy! I read mine every once in a while
> just because it is so cool. It's actually an
> adventure in one book, and (the cool one) a
> transcript of two journalists who investigate the UB
> and discover all there deep, dark, nasty secrets in
> the other. Still gives me the creeps reading it! Get
> it.
>
Voted by me as the best sourcebook ever written by any gaming company....
mostly for the concept and the atmosphere it creates.

Hell, I can truly say that I've got a phobia about meeting larger than
life insects after reaing that.

Bleach
Message no. 21
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:28:53 -0500
>Voted by me as the best sourcebook ever written by any gaming company....
>mostly for the concept and the atmosphere it creates.
>
I second that vote... A truly great sourcebook...

>Hell, I can truly say that I've got a phobia about meeting larger than
>life insects after reaing that.
>
Oh yeah... I had to read it while the game was in play, simulating my
character decoding it a bit at a time... I sat there while the rest of the
group played just repeating "Fuck... Oh shit... Oh hell... We're dead,
guys... Game over, Man!" :):):)

It was amusing...:]

Bull
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Message no. 22
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 15:50:19 +1000
> >Hell, I can truly say that I've got a phobia about meeting larger than
> >life insects after reaing that.
> >
> Oh yeah... I had to read it while the game was in play, simulating my
> character decoding it a bit at a time... I sat there while the rest of the
> group played just repeating "Fuck... Oh shit... Oh hell... We're dead,
> guys... Game over, Man!" :):):)
>

ROTFL

The best time I've ever run the UB adventure was when we were drawing
parallels between it and aliens........ One of the players looked at me
and just went 'Oh No'... because he'd given me the mutual idea to drop a
bunch of insect spirits on him from the roof..... and up from the floor

It made the game a lot more interesting, actually, because the other
player was a mage with a Mana Bolt..... he'd fry four or five bugs an
action, and they couldn't even get close.

As a GM I HATE the low willpower of bugs....*grin*

Bleach
Message no. 23
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 17:52:50 +1100
> player was a mage with a Mana Bolt..... he'd fry four or five bugs an
> action, and they couldn't even get close.
>
> As a GM I HATE the low willpower of bugs....*grin*

... and as players, we give thanks for it. :)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 24
From: Ray & Tamara <macey@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 19:36:50 +1000
> > Great sourcebook! (Yes, it is a sourcebook, more or
> > less) Get a copy! I read mine every once in a while
> > just because it is so cool. It's actually an
> > adventure in one book, and (the cool one) a
> > transcript of two journalists who investigate the UB
> > and discover all there deep, dark, nasty secrets in
> > the other. Still gives me the creeps reading it! Get
> > it.
> >
> Voted by me as the best sourcebook ever written by any gaming company....
> mostly for the concept and the atmosphere it creates.

I remember when I was in High School, and was debating whether or not to
mail order this sourcebook. Unfortunately, I was very broke, and couldn't
afford it (I thought it was only a sourcebook) and an adventure as well, so
I passed on UB. Then it went out of print, and then I find out that it is
really hard to get, and supposedly very good. I could just kick myself
sometimes.

Ray
Message no. 25
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:03:18 +1000
> > Voted by me as the best sourcebook ever written by any gaming company....
> > mostly for the concept and the atmosphere it creates.
>
> I remember when I was in High School, and was debating whether or not to
> mail order this sourcebook. Unfortunately, I was very broke, and couldn't
> afford it (I thought it was only a sourcebook) and an adventure as well, so
> I passed on UB. Then it went out of print, and then I find out that it is
> really hard to get, and supposedly very good. I could just kick myself
> sometimes.
>

O.K. like I've said a few times on this list, I used to own every
sourcebook published. I sold them all to my brother in a time of
deperate financial need, for a pitance.... $350 from $2000 spent...

Now, I think he owes me at least one sourcebook, considering the price,
and we've both played that one to death... I could talk to him and see if
he'd be willing to sell/donate it to you.

For the current group I (sometimes) play with, the UB adventure would
just be filler, as Bug City is due in six months. So it's no good to
them, except perhaps if it was adapted so they were part of the FBI
clean-up of the UB.

Actually, that's a good idea... I may get off my butt, and GM it before I
give it away.

Bleach
Message no. 26
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:57:05 +1000
> Now, I think he owes me at least one sourcebook, considering the price,
> and we've both played that one to death... I could talk to him and see if
> he'd be willing to sell/donate it to you.

Marty, if you're that keen to sell it away, I'll buy it from you...

> For the current group I (sometimes) play with, the UB adventure would
> just be filler, as Bug City is due in six months. So it's no good to
> them, except perhaps if it was adapted so they were part of the FBI
> clean-up of the UB.

The CURRENT group, yeah - however, we've been known to start new
characters. I'd rather buy it off you (if you're so desperate for money)
than see you send it out of the group, overseas to whoever you were
offering it to.

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 27
From: GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 22:54:28 -0700
> From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
> > Now, I think he owes me at least one sourcebook, considering the price,
> > and we've both played that one to death... I could talk to him and see if
> > he'd be willing to sell/donate it to you.
> Marty, if you're that keen to sell it away, I'll buy it from you...

For that matter put it up for bid..Set a minimum bid and a time
limit for bids..See what happens...And include me in the bidding..
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The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
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Because They Pissed Me Off.
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Message no. 28
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:44:20 +1000
> > From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
> > > Now, I think he owes me at least one sourcebook, considering the price,
> > > and we've both played that one to death... I could talk to him and see if
> > > he'd be willing to sell/donate it to you.
> > Marty, if you're that keen to sell it away, I'll buy it from you...
>
> For that matter put it up for bid..Set a minimum bid and a time
> limit for bids..See what happens...And include me in the bidding..

*grin* I _like_ that idea.

Hmmm, the original sourcebook cost about $20 American for me to buy, and
it's now out of print. Accounting for the damage sustained though normal
use, I'd say that its still worth about $20 Aus, or $20 American

(postage and currency conversion can be a bastard)

Any raise on $20?

Seriously though, Lady J plays in the same group as me, and I'd never
hear the end of it (well... I _would_, but it's not worth it). I was
going to offer it to Ray 'cause he's in Brisbane like me and the postage
and other stuff would be cheap and easy.

Whomever wants it has four weeks to say so.; After that the entire
collection departs for Canberra with my brother Roland.

BTW; This list isn't a trading post..... I don't feel too good about
offering things for general sale through the list.


Bleach
Message no. 29
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 02:05:52 -0700
At 18:44 3/31/97 +1000, you wrote:
>*grin* I _like_ that idea.
>
>Hmmm, the original sourcebook cost about $20 American for me to buy, and
>it's now out of print. Accounting for the damage sustained though normal
>use, I'd say that its still worth about $20 Aus, or $20 American
>
>(postage and currency conversion can be a bastard)
>
>Any raise on $20?
>
>Seriously though, Lady J plays in the same group as me, and I'd never
>hear the end of it (well... I _would_, but it's not worth it). I was
>going to offer it to Ray 'cause he's in Brisbane like me and the postage
>and other stuff would be cheap and easy.
>
>Whomever wants it has four weeks to say so.; After that the entire
>collection departs for Canberra with my brother Roland.
>
>BTW; This list isn't a trading post..... I don't feel too good about
>offering things for general sale through the list.
>
>
>Bleach

Bwhaahahahah!! According to mailing list policy, you owe Itribe.net $1999
american for advertising!! : )
Since the selling started as a joke, I guess we'll waive the fee.. But, no
offense, keep the rest of it off the list, if you do intend to make an
auction out of it, please. Donate any profits you make to the EFF, and
we'll all be happy :)

-Adam
Assistant Fearless Leader
Message no. 30
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:11:09 +1000
> Bwhaahahahah!! According to mailing list policy, you owe Itribe.net $1999
> american for advertising!! : )
> Since the selling started as a joke, I guess we'll waive the fee.. But, no
> offense, keep the rest of it off the list, if you do intend to make an
> auction out of it, please. Donate any profits you make to the EFF, and
> we'll all be happy :)
>

Query: EFF?

Point taken, BTW
Message no. 31
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 02:37:09 -0700
At 19:11 3/31/97 +1000, you wrote:
<snipp>
>> auction out of it, please. Donate any profits you make to the EFF, and
>> we'll all be happy :)
>>
>
>Query: EFF?

I'm not extremely familar with it, but the EFF is the Electronic Frontier
Foundation. Its basically a huge organization dedicated to freedom on the
internet, and all that stuff. Web pages are at http://www.eff.org, and its
the site that all the blue ribbons link too.
It was Robert Haydens (Original listowners) pet cause, and has remained the
lists benefactor in case we ever do collect any surplus money (Which is so
unlikely I don't even consider it possible :)
I'm sure checking the web page would tell you a heck of a lot more than I
ever could : )

-Adam
Message no. 32
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:42:53 +1000
> >Query: EFF?
>
> I'm not extremely familar with it, but the EFF is the Electronic Frontier
> Foundation. Its basically a huge organization dedicated to freedom on the
> internet, and all that stuff. Web pages are at http://www.eff.org, and its
> the site that all the blue ribbons link too.
> It was Robert Haydens (Original listowners) pet cause, and has remained the
> lists benefactor in case we ever do collect any surplus money (Which is so
> unlikely I don't even consider it possible :)
> I'm sure checking the web page would tell you a heck of a lot more than I
> ever could : )
>

Fair enough. I wasn't familiar with the name behind the blue ribbon
campaign. I guess I should point out that any extra money I get
will go to feeding me or buying some clothes. (Ah the life of a student)
Message no. 33
From: Shawn Baumgartner <deosyne@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 02:51:15 -0800
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:11:09 +1000
>From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD"
>Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
>To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET

>> Bwhaahahahah!! According to mailing list policy,
you owe Itribe.net $1999
>> american for advertising!! : )
>> Since the selling started as a joke, I guess we'll
waive the fee.. But, no
>> offense, keep the rest of it off the list, if you
do intend to make an
>> auction out of it, please. Donate any profits you
make to the EFF, and
>> we'll all be happy :)
>>
>
>Query: EFF?
>

This is a serious note and please don't think I'm
soliciting or anything. The Electronic Frontiers
Foundation is one of the best damn things around. It
is fighting for your freedoms online. If you've ever
felt like donating to a good cause, this is the one.
Please check out their site (could someone post the
addy for me) and get the details.

Shawn


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From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:12:03 +0100
|Query: EFF?

Electronic Frontier Foundation (I think)
It's one of those freedom for the internet things...
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Message no. 35
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 14:28:48 +0000
On 29 Mar 97 at 17:52, Lady Jestyr wrote:
[snip]
> > As a GM I HATE the low willpower of bugs....*grin*
> ... and as players, we give thanks for it. :)
Then be happy you'll not game with me... oh... wait... well, we'll meet
in TK again :-) (*dirty grin*)

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Message no. 36
From: Tony Glinka <porthos@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 00:50:21 -0700
Hey Folks,

Many a time, I sat here reading as other people bragged about
getting their hands on a copy of the Universal Brotherhood. And many a
time, words like "you lucky bastard" exploded from my mouth, since I
couldn't find one for myself. Well, now it is my turn to brag. Yes, I
have gotten my grubby mitts on my very own copy of the Universal
Brotherhood.
Now, just so this doesn't seem totally rude, let me mention that the
place I mail ordered it from had two copies. So that means there is
another to be had. I don't wish to potentially violate the list's rules
for advertising by publicizing the place, so if you want the info,
please email me privately. And please but UB in the subject.
I am off to go read about how I can "unleash my inner abilities" and
"build a better tomorrow." MUAHAHAHAHA.....

Tony
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Message no. 37
From: Tony Rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:05:58 -0600
On 02/23/98 00:50:21 you wrote:
>
>Hey Folks,
>
> Many a time, I sat here reading as other people bragged about
>getting their hands on a copy of the Universal Brotherhood. And many a
>time, words like "you lucky bastard" exploded from my mouth, since I
>couldn't find one for myself. Well, now it is my turn to brag. Yes, I
>have gotten my grubby mitts on my very own copy of the Universal
>Brotherhood.
> Now, just so this doesn't seem totally rude, let me mention that the
>place I mail ordered it from had two copies. So that means there is
>another to be had. I don't wish to potentially violate the list's rules
>for advertising by publicizing the place, so if you want the info,
>please email me privately. And please but UB in the subject.
> I am off to go read about how I can "unleash my inner abilities" and
>"build a better tomorrow." MUAHAHAHAHA.....
>

Have fun, Tony; the reporter's diary just draws you in to the whole plot. One of FASA's
best for
SR, along with the Harley series.

rabiola@**.netcom.com

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Message no. 38
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:10:14 -0500
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 4:57 AM

>The UB is quite rare and sought-after; if you have a copy and compare
>it to other SR adventures you'll see why (excellent player handout,
>good adventure, *big* scare factor for players inexperienced with what
>the UB did, etc.).

It's been my experience that you didn't even have to be inexperienced with
what the UB did for that scare factor to hit, Gurth.

--
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Message no. 39
From: Tim Burke <ranger@********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:41:19 +1000
At 10:10 AM 10/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
>Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 4:57 AM
>
>>The UB is quite rare and sought-after; if you have a copy and compare
>>it to other SR adventures you'll see why (excellent player handout,
>>good adventure, *big* scare factor for players inexperienced with what
>>the UB did, etc.).
>
>It's been my experience that you didn't even have to be inexperienced with
>what the UB did for that scare factor to hit, Gurth.
>

Excellent, because I've just got UB and a bunch of players that are
new to Shadowrun and are totally clueless. I can't wait.....

Tim Burke
Brisbane, Australia
#950 of 1000
ranger@********.com.au
Message no. 40
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:07:42 -0500
From: Tim Burke <ranger@********.COM.AU>
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:43 AM

>>It's been my experience that you didn't even have to be inexperienced
>>with what the UB did for that scare factor to hit, Gurth.
>
>Excellent, because I've just got UB and a bunch of players that are
>new to Shadowrun and are totally clueless. I can't wait.....

You're vicious and cruel. I admire that in a person sometimes....

Wish I could be there to watch, though; that sounds like a great deal of
fun.

--
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Message no. 41
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:53:27 +0200
According to Patrick Goodman, at 10:10 on 21 Oct 98, the word on the street was...

> It's been my experience that you didn't even have to be inexperienced with
> what the UB did for that scare factor to hit, Gurth.

Well, no, but if you've never had any experience with the UB or the like
before you're going to get scared a lot more, either as a player or a
character.

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Message no. 42
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:53:27 +0200
According to Patrick Goodman, at 11:07 on 21 Oct 98, the word on the street was...

> >Excellent, because I've just got UB and a bunch of players that are
> >new to Shadowrun and are totally clueless. I can't wait.....
>
> You're vicious and cruel. I admire that in a person sometimes....
>
> Wish I could be there to watch, though; that sounds like a great deal of
> fun.

I can assure you that it's fun to watch players go through that run whe
they don't have a clue what's behind everything... I had a group of four
or five PC, and only one player knew the truth behind the UB when I ran it
about a year ago. Now, with new characters and everything, they still run
like hell when they encounter something similar :)

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Message no. 43
From: Matt T Ork <steelclaw@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:31:24 -0400
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:10:14 -0500 Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET> writes:

>It's been my experience that you didn't even have to be inexperienced
with
>what the UB did for that scare factor to hit, Gurth.

>From all of the stuff I've seen and the little I've read (though the
bastard won't sell the thing to me), Universal Brotherhood is the
Shadowrun equivalent of Hitchcock's 'Psycho.' Even if you've seen it, it
can still scare the piss out you. You've gotta play it a couple of times
first.

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Message no. 44
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:23:50 -0600
Just found a copy of UB for sale on ebay; auction starts cheap at $1.00.
Here's the URL:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemP953475

Good luck.

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Message no. 45
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:43:38 -0800
> Just found a copy of UB for sale on ebay; auction starts cheap at $1.00.
> Here's the URL:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemP953475
>
What is Universal Brotherhood?

-Toffer
Message no. 46
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:12:05 +1000
>What is Universal Brotherhood?

Picture Microsoft with Bug Spirits instead of Bill Gates... They go around
telling the world they're doing this and that for the betterment of mankind
but are really sneaking around in the background doing any number of
nefarious things to our minds... \=)

[>]ARKHAM
"Pop-quiz hotshot: Five hundred Storm Troopers on jetpacks fly down from
the hole in the roof. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!"
Message no. 47
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:18:43 -0800
> The whole situation came to a head with what happened in Chicago,
> beginningthe Bug City campaign.
>
And there is a Source Book other than Bug City about that?

-Toffer
Message no. 48
From: Blackadder <blkadder@****.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:36:14 -0500
Here's a list of some of the modules/sourcebooks that dealt with
insect spirits:

Universal Brotherhood
Queen Euphoria
Bug City

Novels concerning same are[and that I like alot ;-}

2XS
Burning Bright [The Ground floor events leading to Bug City]
Message no. 49
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 08:36:49 +1000
Blackadder writes:
> Here's a list of some of the modules/sourcebooks that dealt with
> insect spirits:
>
> Universal Brotherhood
> Queen Euphoria

There's another one here... Double Exposure.

> Bug City
>
> Novels concerning same are[and that I like alot ;-}
>
> 2XS
> Burning Bright [The Ground floor events leading to Bug City]

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Message no. 50
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:40:41 -0800
> There's another one here... Double Exposure.
>
Novel or sourcebook?

-Toffer
Message no. 51
From: "Ratinac, Rand (NSW)" <RRatinac@*****.REDCROSS.ORG.AU>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:47:48 +1000
> > There's another one here... Double Exposure.
> >
> Novel or sourcebook?
>
> -Toffer
>
Adventure.

Oh, and you asked what the Universal Brotherhood is?

Quick answer -

The Holy Grail.

*Doc' is back in biz...*

Doc'

.sig Sauer
Message no. 52
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:39:13 -0600
<snip auction info since it's over...went for $44, as I recall>

>What is Universal Brotherhood?

Think ALIENS. Now think ALIENS as a Sunday school picnic.

THE UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD is the Shadowrun module from Hell. The module
itself, Chris Kybasik's MISSING BLOOD, is something terrifying to behold
once it goes into motion, and one of the best damn games I've *ever*
been involved with in almost 25 years of gaming. The sourcebook half is
some of the sorely-missed Nigel Findley's best fiction, too.

Spooky, spooky, spooky stuff.

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Message no. 53
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:39:14 -0600
From: Davidson, Chris
Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 4:19 PM

>> The whole situation came to a head with what happened in Chicago,
>> beginning the Bug City campaign.
>
>And there is a Source Book other than Bug City about that?

If you can find it....

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Message no. 54
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:49:19 -0600
From: Ratinac, Rand (NSW)
Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 5:48 PM

>Oh, and you asked what the Universal Brotherhood is?
>
>Quick answer -
>
>The Holy Grail.

I sold mine recently for quite a tidy sum, then lucked out and found a
replacement copy while I was on vacation last year. That one isn't for
sale....

Now if I could just find an affordable copy of HARLEQUIN, and a copy of
LONE STAR, I'll be happy. I think, however, that holding my breath
would be contra-indicated.

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Message no. 55
From: K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:53:59 EST
In a message dated 1/4/99 6:40:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time, remo@***.NET
writes:

>
> Think ALIENS. Now think ALIENS as a Sunday school picnic.
>
> THE UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD is the Shadowrun module from Hell. The module
> itself, Chris Kybasik's MISSING BLOOD, is something terrifying to behold
> once it goes into motion, and one of the best damn games I've *ever*
> been involved with in almost 25 years of gaming. The sourcebook half is
> some of the sorely-missed Nigel Findley's best fiction, too.

I agree whole-heartedly here on both accounts. The one real trick is, you
have to have a GM *and* a group of players that are *REALLY* going to get into
the "Role-Play" of this. I've been into the "UB" material twice now.
The
first time I had a really good group of players. The second time, the players
were, well, *average*. It can be incredibly fun and incredibly enjoyable.
In all accounts.

Especially if the GM decides to alter, *one* tiny little detail. Like
reaching the "baby" before it dies.

-K
Message no. 56
From: "Hatchetman, GUV" <hatchet@*********.BC.CA>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:42:25 -0800
> There's another one here... Double Exposure.

Double Exposure is also the Seattle side of it, for those who don't like to
travel, and doesn't really give much into the truly mindboggling scope of
the Brotherhood dispersal. They actually remind me of the Invid.

Hatchetman, GUV.
Message no. 57
From: Rat <shadorat@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:41:48 -0800
> Now if I could just find an affordable copy of HARLEQUIN, and a copy of
> LONE STAR, I'll be happy. I think, however, that holding my breath
> would be contra-indicated.
>
> --
> (>) Texas 2-Step
> El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.


I have an extra copy of Lone Star, as well as extra copies
of NAN1 and NAN2. I'm planning to use them as prizes in the
Magespace's upcoming contests...as soon as I can figure out
what sort of contests I want to run! :)

Anybody got any suggestions?

--Rat
winterhawk@*********.net
Winterhawk's Virtual Magespace
http://www.magespace.net
Message no. 58
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:43:19 -0600
>> Now if I could just find an affordable copy of HARLEQUIN, and a
>> copy of LONE STAR, I'll be happy.
>
>I have an extra copy of Lone Star...

You're cruel, Rat. Vicious, mean, and cruel....

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Message no. 59
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:14:09 +0100
According to Robert Watkins, at 8:36 on 5 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> Blackadder writes:
> > Here's a list of some of the modules/sourcebooks that dealt with
> > insect spirits:
> >
> > Universal Brotherhood
> > Queen Euphoria
>
> There's another one here... Double Exposure.

Super Tuesday! and Shadows of the Underworld should also be included here.

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Message no. 60
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:45:58 -0800
> Spooky, spooky, spooky stuff.
>
That's just how I like it. I'll have to find a copy of it. :)

-Toffer
Message no. 61
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:45:54 -0800
> > There's another one here... Double Exposure.
>
> Super Tuesday! and Shadows of the Underworld should also be included here.
>
Ahhhh! What are those then...Well, I know what Shadows of the Underworld are, but what is
Super Tuesday...wait...doesn't that have something to do with the election of Dunkelzon or
something like that?

-Toffer
Message no. 62
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:24:05 -0600
>> Spooky, spooky, spooky stuff.
>>
>That's just how I like it. I'll have to find a copy of it. :)

Good luck. I've got my eyes open for copies for at least three other
people; I suppose I could add you to the list. Send me a reminder
privately if you'd like me to do so.

--
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Message no. 63
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:27:15 +0100
According to Davidson, Chris, at 9:45 on 5 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> > Super Tuesday! and Shadows of the Underworld should also be included here.
> >
> Ahhhh! What are those then...Well, I know what Shadows of the
> Underworld are, but what is Super Tuesday...wait...doesn't that have
> something to do with the election of Dunkelzon or something like that?

Yes, it does. It's five adventures taking place before the 2057 elections,
with tie-ins to the various candidates. Much the same as SotU, in short. I
can't really say more because of spoiler reasons, of course.

BTW, could you set your mailer to word-wrap every 70 characters or so?
Each paragraph in your posts appears as one long line in my mailer.

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Message no. 64
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:12:25 -0800
> BTW, could you set your mailer to word-wrap every 70 characters or so?
> Each paragraph in your posts appears as one long line in my mailer.
>
I'll try, but I'm using MS Exchange and I'm not sure how to do that. I'll see
what I can do tho. :)

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Message no. 65
From: Tim Kerby <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:25:22 -0500
On 5 Jan 99, at 14:12, Davidson, Chris wrote:

> > BTW, could you set your mailer to word-wrap every 70 characters or so?
> > Each paragraph in your posts appears as one long line in my mailer.
> >
> I'll try, but I'm using MS Exchange and I'm not sure how to do that. I'll
> see what I can do tho. :)

I think Exchange wraps at your windows size, so set the size of your
mail window to 70 characters across. Use of a monospaced font works
much better as well.

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Message no. 66
From: "Davidson, Chris" <Christopher.Davidson@***.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:27:24 -0800
> I think Exchange wraps at your windows size, so set the size of your
> mail window to 70 characters across. Use of a monospaced font works
> much better as well.
>
I'm working on it. I have my windows set to a small size, but it's still not
working entirely correct....I suppose that I'll just have to remember to hit enter
instead of letting it word wrap. :)

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Message no. 67
From: Adam J <adamj@*********.HTML.COM>
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:13:57 -0700
At 21:41 1/4/99 -0800, Rat wrote:

>I have an extra copy of Lone Star, as well as extra copies
>of NAN1 and NAN2. I'm planning to use them as prizes in the
>Magespace's upcoming contests...as soon as I can figure out
>what sort of contests I want to run! :)

One that I can win easily. :-)

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Message no. 68
From: sean jamieson elf61@*******.com
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:19:02 PST
how much is the original price? i can get it for about 10-20% cheaper.

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From: Lehlan Decker DeckerL@******.com
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 16:37:49 -0500
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>>> "sean jamieson" <elf61@*******.com> 03/02/99 04:19pm
>>>
>how much is the original price? i can get it for about 10-20%
>cheaper.

The original price was around $18 I think. I'll have to check my
copy when I get home but that sounds right. I was in school at the
time, and wasn't working and I could afford it, so it must have not
cost too much. :)
Message no. 70
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:50:20 +0100
According to sean jamieson, at 13:19 on 2 Mar 99, the word on
the street was...

> how much is the original price? i can get it for about 10-20% cheaper.

I somehow doubt that... Original price was US$12.00, but it's been out of
print since 1993 or so, which makes it very difficult to find now.

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Message no. 71
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:24:15 -0600
>> how much is the original price? i can get it for about 10-20%
>> cheaper.
>
>I somehow doubt that... Original price was US$12.00, but it's been
>out of print since 1993 or so, which makes it very difficult to
>find now.

And except for the battered, but intact and quite usable, copy sitting on my
shelf which I got for $6 a few months ago, I haven't seen it go for less
than US$40.00 any time in the recent past.

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Message no. 72
From: Rat shadorat@****.com
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:15:24 -0800
From: "Patrick Goodman" <remo@***.net>

>
> And except for the battered, but intact and quite usable, copy sitting on my
> shelf which I got for $6 a few months ago, I haven't seen it go for less
> than US$40.00 any time in the recent past.
>


<shameless plug>
Ya might be able to get it for free soon...Well, you'll have
to win a contest, but if you win, it'll be free... :)
</shameless plug>

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contest for such a plum prize...

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Message no. 73
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:23:53 +0100
According to Rat, at 9:15 on 3 Mar 99, the word on
the street was...

> --Rat, wandering off and whistling, trying to come up with a good
> contest for such a plum prize...

Maybe give it to the person who comes up with an idea for the most
original contest?

(Such as coming up with the idea to hold a contest where the winner must
come up with an idea for a contest? :)

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Message no. 74
From: XaOs [David Goth] xaos@*****.net
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:32:36 -0600
> >how much is the original price? i can get it for about 10-20%
> >cheaper.
>
> The original price was around $18 I think. I'll have to check my
> copy when I get home but that sounds right. I was in school at the
> time, and wasn't working and I could afford it, so it must have not
> cost too much. :)

Nah, it was $12. It doesn't give a cost on the cover, but I'm about 90%
certain that was the original cover price. I think it was considered an
"adventure" at the time (despite saying sourcebook/adventure on the cover
and spine), so would have been comparably priced for similar things.

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Message no. 75
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: universal brotherhood
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:57:45 +0100
According to XaOs [David Goth], at 12:32 on 3 Mar 99, the word on
the street was...

> Nah, it was $12. It doesn't give a cost on the cover

Yes, it does. On SR books anyway, the block with the barcode always gives
the price in the upper right-hand corner: remove the first "5" in the
number printed there, and you have the price in dollar-cents. The UB has
"51200" so it cost US$12.00.

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Message no. 76
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:31:28 -0600
There are two copies of this up for grabs on ebay, if you're looking to get
your hands on what many consider the Holy Grail. One of them is clearly
marked as such, the other is part of a collection where you're gonna wind up
with a lot of books you probably already own, but it might be worth looking
at.

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Message no. 77
From: Kevin Roberts kr23st00@****.net
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:53:31 -0600
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.net>
To: Shadowrun Discussion <shadowrn@*********.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 7:46 AM
Subject: Universal Brotherhood


>There are two copies of this up for grabs on ebay, if you're looking to get
>your hands on what many consider the Holy Grail. One of them is clearly
>marked as such, the other is part of a collection where you're gonna wind
up
>with a lot of books you probably already own, but it might be worth looking
>at.
snip sig...

I have Universal Brotherhood for trade. I would like KAGE Mags...

Send me a line for more info. I am willing to make a deal.
Message no. 78
From: Aristotle antithesis@**********.com
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:23:00 -0400
Greetings -n- Salutations,

Since my chances of actually achieving a UB book on Ebay seem to be quite
bad I was wondering if anyone could give me some general information on
the group. I'm not looking for game mechanics or quotes from the book...

I'm running a "vintage" shadowrun game and it is just about time for the
UB to open it's doors and offer a better way to the denizens of the world.
I would just like some tips on how the organization is run. Do those who
follow it act in a specific way? Is their a symbol, itel, or style of
dress common to those in the UB?

I pretty much understand how the events unfold one the UB is found out,
but I want to try to portray them correctly before anyone discovers what
they are really up to.. ANY help with the UB would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-- Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle
Message no. 79
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 10:57:44 GMT
>From: "Aristotle" <antithesis@**********.com>
>Since my chances of actually achieving a UB book on Ebay seem to be quite
>bad I was wondering if anyone could give me some general information on
>the group. I'm not looking for game mechanics or quotes from the book...

Just two days ago I held a copy of the book at GCUK, of course, I had spent
up by then and it was in pretty bad condition. Plus someone I know bought
it so I will eventually get to read it.

Apparantly the adventure inclosed works really well if the players are
genuinely ignorant as to the existance of bug spirits. I recomend you check
out http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/ if you want an overview of the book.

Phil

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Message no. 80
From: Guido the Enforcer GuidoEnforce@*****.com
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:29:41 -0500
Don't worry too hard, just give it time.

When I got my copy off of e-bay I was thinking the same thing, but I
eventually won an auction AND paid only about $35.00 for it. I was just
persistent and eventually won out. Same held true for the original
Harlequin, and I paid low on that too. You will eventually win, you just
need to be patient.

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From: Aristotle <antithesis@**********.com>
To: ShadowRN (E-mail) <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:23 AM
Subject: Universal Brotherhood


> Greetings -n- Salutations,
>
> Since my chances of actually achieving a UB book on Ebay seem to be quite
> bad I was wondering if anyone could give me some general information on
> the group. I'm not looking for game mechanics or quotes from the book...
>
> I'm running a "vintage" shadowrun game and it is just about time for the
> UB to open it's doors and offer a better way to the denizens of the world.
> I would just like some tips on how the organization is run. Do those who
> follow it act in a specific way? Is their a symbol, itel, or style of
> dress common to those in the UB?
>
> I pretty much understand how the events unfold one the UB is found out,
> but I want to try to portray them correctly before anyone discovers what
> they are really up to.. ANY help with the UB would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> -- Travis "Aristotle" Heldibridle
>
>


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Message no. 81
From: Lars Wagner Hansen l-hansen@*****.tele.dk
Subject: Universal Brotherhood
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:17:28 +0200
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Smith <phil_urbanhell@*******.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Universal Brotherhood


> Apparantly the adventure inclosed works really well if the players are
> genuinely ignorant as to the existance of bug spirits. I recomend you
check
> out http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/ if you want an overview of the book.

But Gurth's link to his own Shadowrun pages are broken (hint, hint, Gurth,
you promised to fix it at the same time you updated the pages with alle the
information I gave you about the Hungarian and Protugese editions of SR, but
the you haven't done that either :-) ). You should go to
http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/shadowrun/ instead.

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