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Message no. 1
From: steven mancini <mancinis@******.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: Zodiac question
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 00:24:53 EST
Does anyone out there know all the animals/sign of the chinese
zodiac?

Da Minotaur
Message no. 2
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 09:19:18 -0600
> Does anyone out there know all the animals/sign of the chinese zodiac?

Rat: gregarious, intelligent, crafty & charming. Goes well with Ox and
Dragon, less friendly with Horse & Ram.

Ox: Reliable, sensible & steadfast. A conformist. Good with rat & snake; ill
omens with Tiger & Dog.

Tiger: Leader & Fighter. Horse & Dog are favorable, while Ox and Snake are
particularly unfavorable. Tiger will fight almost anybody.

Hare: Loves friends & conversations but is quiet & permissive. Good doctors.
Sheep & Dog are well-omened, while bad luck falls from Tiger & Horse

Dragon: Elegant & extroverted. They crave mystery, the ocult, and attention.
Monkey and Rat are well-receieved, with Dog & Hare (*especially*) Hare being
less fortuitous.

Snake: Subtle, intellectual & restrained, loving secrets and keeping them
well. Rooster & Ox are good, Boar and Tiger are bad.

Horse: Aggrssive but a team player. No horse can truly understand the
opposite sex. Tiger & Sheep are lucky signs, while Rat and Hare are opposed.

Ram: Loving, artistic, and selfless. Also translated as "sheep", it is
considered the most feminine of signs by the Chinese. Ram is both fastidous &
lazy and prefers diplomacy over confrontation. Hare & Horse are good omens,
Rat & Ox are to be avoided.

Monkey: Versatile and imaginative, Quick of wit & tongue, liked by everyone
whether he deserves it or not. Dragon, Rat are compatible, Tiger & Ox are
opposed.

Rooster: Proud, confident, intolerant. Good luck from Ox & Snake, bad
tidings from Hare & Rat.

Dog: Honest & Faithful, puts family above all else - a virtue in China.
Hare & Tiger are good omens, Dragon & Ox are bad.

Boar: Jolly & indolent. Generous and loving home & the family. Skilled at
handicrafts. Ram & Tiger are lucky; Snake & Boar are unlucky. Furthermore,
two boars frequently argue.


J Roberson
Message no. 3
From: "Brandon P. Bradley" <bpbradle@*****.CS.MTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 13:32:11 EST
Could you give the dates for the signs as well? Thanx.

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Message no. 4
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 1994 19:50:44 -0600
>Could you give the dates for the signs as well? Thanx.

Sorry, don't have those offhand. If I have to do actual research I won't.
I'll doublecheck my sources at home, but no guarantees.

Now what does everyone think about Wood as an element, and water as *not*
an element?

J Roberson
Message no. 5
From: Schnood <cdjworks@******.DIGEX.NET>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 09:52:56 -0500
>Now what does everyone think about Wood as an element, and water as *not*
>an element?

Well, historically the four elements have been fire, earth, air, and
water. Also, each of these elements had the ability to affect the
other. Fire can scorch earth, water can douse fire, earth can hold back
water, and air can move any of the other three. Now, if we had wood
instead of water, what would affect fire? Wood can't, it would get
burned by fire. You need some sort of opposition.

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Message no. 6
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 12:22:56 -0600
>>Now what does everyone think about Wood as an element, and water as *not*
>>an element?

>Well, historically the four elements have been fire, earth, air, and
>water.

Historically in the *West*. China has had its five elements since antiquity.

And they do have a successive order. I don't have it off-hand, but they do
flow in a cycle.


J Roberson
Message no. 7
From: steven mancini <mancinis@******.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 15:19:22 EST
To quote Schnood:
]
] >Now what does everyone think about Wood as an element, and water as *not*
] >an element?
]
] Well, historically the four elements have been fire, earth, air, and
] water. Also, each of these elements had the ability to affect the
] other. Fire can scorch earth, water can douse fire, earth can hold back
] water, and air can move any of the other three. Now, if we had wood
] instead of water, what would affect fire? Wood can't, it would get
] burned by fire. You need some sort of opposition.
]
Earth smothers fire...

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Message no. 8
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 15:23:56 -0500
> >Could you give the dates for the signs as well? Thanx.
>
The zodiac according to asian culture runs on a yearly cycle so for
instance if you were born in 1964 you were born in the year of the
Dragon...Look it up in the Encyclopedia there is usually a forcast as
well as past dates to around the turn of the century...
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Message no. 9
From: "David R. Henry" <dhenry@******.NODAK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Zodiac question
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 14:59:31 CST
> Well, historically the four elements have been fire, earth, air, and
> water. Also, each of these elements had the ability to affect the
> other. Fire can scorch earth, water can douse fire, earth can hold back
> water, and air can move any of the other three. Now, if we had wood
> instead of water, what would affect fire? Wood can't, it would get
> burned by fire. You need some sort of opposition.

The usual Oriental stories I remember had wood stuck between earth and
air (appropriately enough). Wood would break up air, air would erode
earth, earth would absorb water, water would put out fire, and fire
would eat wood. Sometimes the air/earth sides would be reversed:
wood would break up earth, and air would topple wood.

drh

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