| From: | dhyde79@*********.net (Derek Hyde) |
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| Subject: | Acceleration and G-force (was Firearm Design : How long does |
| Date: | Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:55:33 -0600 |
> drivetrain are capable of pushing the vehicle up to 250kph... chances
> are very good that somewhere along the way the car's front end will
> get lifted off the ground and I'll crash.
I beg to differ once more, I've had a full size 1996 Ford Bronco (full size,
eddie bauer edition 4x4) doing 150 mph+ (241.38 kph +) and it had absolutely
no "float" or "lift". If your "average" sports car can't do
that on a
highway, then I'm terribly scared for what the car manufacturers are putting
out these days.
> Furthermore, I don't think
> any of those cars can go from 0 to 250kph in 3 or 4 seconds, and even
> if the powerplant, drivetrain, and tires could somehow grant that
> capability I doubt the vehicle would be controllable under such
> acceleration.
You're right, cars today aren't capable of THAT much acceleration, but,
who's to say that in the span of 58 years that SOMEONE won't have figured
out how to bridge that gap
I'd also like to submit the fact that there's a motorcycle out there that
"is powered by a 320 bhp Rolls Royce Allison turbine engine, producing 425
ft/lbs of torque, clocked at 227 MPH in less than a kilometer, and priced at
US$150,000."
That being said.....I can't find the documentation on it at the moment, but,
if I recall correctly, it was quoted as doing 0-187 mph in something like 6
seconds....(that's 0-300kph....on a motorcycle, in which there IS NO form of
downforce and the rider alone is a huge wind catcher just waiting to cause a
wreck) oh, and Jay Leno owns one of those....and if that fat sucker is an
example of "an exceptionally skilled driver" then I'm in league with Mario
Andretti and the like.
>
> I think the problem is that I keep stating as absolutes what really
> amount to common sense observations. Yes, many sportscars can
> achieve those speeds... with the correct body options to provide
> spoilage to keep the car grounded... and a very skilled driver...
> under ideal environmental conditions...
> That same car and driver on a freeway in the city are NOT going to
> achieve those speeds without catastrophic incident. Not likely.
>
No, not very skilled drivers, just common sense, ideal environmental
conditions don't exist, to back this up, go to porsche's website and watch
the "on the track at weisach"(sp?) video on the Carrera GT's page....they're
testing out the car and opening it up on a track that's still got patches of
snow and ice on it...
>> ...and therefore, it's your duty as a GM to simply look at the
>> person and say "no"
>
> Herein lies the problem. The player did not want to hear "no".
And I as a driver don't want to hear that my car simply can't accelerate any
faster, but, it doesn't mean that it's going to go any quicker. The
"acceleration is based on number of successes on the test" I don't agree
with nor do I use it, I treat it as common sense...if you don't think the
vehicle should be able to get to 210kph, in a 3 second span, then it can't,
the GM is the final say, not the players.
