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Message no. 1
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: A Copyright Proposal (all ShadowTalk people please read)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 21:04:02 -0500
Ok, I'm about to make a proposal on how to possible settle the shadowtalk
copyright debate. I'm posting to shadowrun simply to keep the traffic on
'Talk focused.

Comments are desired.

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EFFECTIVE DATE: May 1, 1993 (ShadowTalk LOG9305A)

From this time forward, all materials to ShadowTalk become property of the
public domain. ShadowTalk can be used as a creative resource without its
users expecting any form of compensation. Any use of ShadowTalk as a source
requires that credit be given to ShadowTalk as a single entity.

Exception: Character names are the property of the individual creators.
Use of character names without permission constitutes an infringement.

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What this means (in English):

This means I could write a story about the MONICA affair and the only
requirement is that I include some mention of shadowtalk (actually, the
MONICA affair falls BEFORE this takes effect so something else would ahve to
be worked out). I could base the characters in my story in the characters
from the MONICA affair, but I could NOT use their names without the
permission of the original creator. This means I could technically have a
dragon named Bubba without any hassles, but NOT one named Tirandor.

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Now, there are two stages for discussion on this topic.

1) Is the above acceptable? If not, why. (offer an alternative).
2) Should the above be retro-active? Yes? No? Why? (either way).

I'll wait a day or so before I put up my opinions on everything.

**

I appreciate your time and effort.








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Message no. 2
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: A Copyright Proposal (all ShadowTalk people please read) (fwd)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 22:27:11 -0500
Here's another one.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1993 20:22:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: ROBERSON@***.EDU
To: hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu
Subject: RE: A Copyright Proposal (all ShadowTalk people please read)

1-Yes, it is perfectly acceptable to me. You may want to find out how well it'llhold up in
court, however.

2:Retroactive-Again, fine with me, if you can do it. I hear ShadowTalk has only been
on-line since about August '92-that's not too big a period of time
to grandfather it. If it had been around much longer, then I would question
the authority to do so.


J Roberson
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As a followup: ShadowTalk came online November 2, 1992

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