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Message no. 1
From: JOHANNA BURWELL-KALES <burwell@******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Addition to my poll...
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:01:33 -0700
well, since most people dislike elven characters, this is
probably because of them being such a common character in D&D and being a
lot of the antagonists and backstabbers in the SR novels. I personally
think that they have the best racial advantage. They get +1 quickness and
+2 charisma, also you can make their age like 500 years old. They also
get low-light vision along with being such jerks though in the Tir book.
I believe that next to orks or humans, they are the other pretty
advantageous race. Dwarfs are squat people who are not much good for
anything else but that bowling stuff in Australia i once saw on TV.






No offense to dwarf players, but dwarfs are pretty lame. We always use
them for targets on the corps side.
Message no. 2
From: King of Pain <mcgowan@*****.BUCKNELL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Addition to my poll...
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:30:52 -0400
On Tue, 13 Sep 1994, JOHANNA BURWELL-KALES wrote:

> well, since most people dislike elven characters, this is
> probably because of them being such a common character in D&D and being a
> lot of the antagonists and backstabbers in the SR novels. I personally
> think that they have the best racial advantage. They get +1 quickness and
> +2 charisma, also you can make their age like 500 years old. They also
> get low-light vision along with being such jerks though in the Tir book.
> I believe that next to orks or humans, they are the other pretty
> advantageous race. Dwarfs are squat people who are not much good for
> anything else but that bowling stuff in Australia i once saw on TV.
>
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> No offense to dwarf players, but dwarfs are pretty lame. We always use
> them for targets on the corps side.
>
well, actually you can't be 500 years old. UGE occurred about 40 years
ago, and if you actually are going to allow a player to be born from ye
olden days, then they'd have to be around 10-20,000 years old,
minimum(this being the last time the magic level was high enough for UGE
to express). Secondly, yes you could have had a spike baby born 500
years ago, but unless they somehow in an age of no magic managed to
become a mage and initiate a few times to give themselves a high mana
level to activate that lovely immortality gene, that won't work either.

Just some food for thought.


RDM
Message no. 3
From: Skrub <mccllstr@*****.BUCKNELL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Addition to my poll...
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 22:36:00 -0400
Umh, somoen referred to having 500 year old elves. I hate to be
nit-picky, but I don't believe there are any elves in existince in that
range. there are the ones from 1700 years ago minimum, and the ones from
twenty years ago. I don't think too many GM's let you play an elf from
the fourth age though unfortunately.

I bring it up only cuz we had an experience with this in our group
recently (although the GM hasn't realized it yet) with a 129 year old
elf. She was used to !$&* :)

Brian McCallister---------------------------------------------------Skrub
"I get to play Doom on a Pentium 90 !!!!!!!"
-Skrub, before being shot for unknown reasons
Message no. 4
From: MILLIKEN DAMION A <u9467882@***.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Addition to my poll...
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:17:33 +1000
Johanna writes:

> Dwarfs are squat people who are not much good for anything else but that
> bowling stuff in Australia i once saw on TV.

Hunh?

> No offense to dwarf players, but dwarfs are pretty lame. We always use
> them for targets on the corps side.

I say you can blame FASA for that perception (similarly as you can blame
FASA for the perceptions about elves). If dwarfs actually featured in FASA
products then they may be viewed a little better. BTW, I use dwarfs on the
corp sides too...as magicians - that Willpower of 7 really bangs.

RDM writes:

> UGE occurred about 40 years ago, and if you actually are going to allow a
> player to be born from ye olden days, then they'd have to be around 10-20,000
> years old, minimum(this being the last time the magic level was high enough
> for UGE to express).

I thought it was only 5000-10000 yrs. Thats what Harlequin seems to indicate.

> Secondly, yes you could have had a spike baby born 500 years ago, but unless
> they somehow in an age of no magic managed to become a mage and initiate a
> few times to give themselves a high mana level to activate that lovely
> immortality gene, that won't work either.

As for this, I think that if they had the "elf" gene activate, then the long
lifespan (as opposed to "immortality") would be part of the package deal.
After all, being an elf entitles you to the extended life span. Also, this
would mean that any spike babys who aren't mages would appear much older
than they should (like Dodger). He doesn't appear to be really old (as he
would if he aged like a human until 2010).

A question on UGE though. If a human UGEs into one of the metatypes, do they
get their human lifespan, or the lifespan of the metatype? I ask this
because in the SR novels, some ork whod UGEd had the life span of a human,
while his daughter, who was born as an ork, only had the lifespan of an ork.
While, in DNA-DOA, Allen Bronston (who UGEd I think) had the lifespan of an
ork.

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Damion Milliken University of Wollongong e-mail: u9467882@***.edu.au

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Message no. 5
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Addition to my poll...
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:52:51 -0400
On Wed, 14 Sep 1994, MILLIKEN DAMION A wrote:
> > UGE occurred about 40 years ago, and if you actually are going to allow a
> > player to be born from ye olden days, then they'd have to be around 10-20,000
> > years old, minimum(this being the last time the magic level was high enough
> > for UGE to express).
>
It happens..This will be born out in a 3 novel series next year..The
first 2 occur in the Earthdawn time period and the third will occur in
the Shadowrun time period..with an Elf as the main character...Imagine that..

> I thought it was only 5000-10000 yrs. Thats what Harlequin seems to indicate.
>
This is a correct assumption..The first 2 novels will occur 7000 years
before the third..All this comes from GenCon...
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