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Message no. 1
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark.imbriaco@*****.COM>
Subject: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:56:34 -0400
1) I'm aware of the duplicate message problem. I don't see anything
obvious causing it right now, so I'm going to ignore it until I restart
the lists.

2) Re: Resetting the lists. Here's how it's going to work.

1. I send out a message saying that the lists are getting
reset.
2. Wait 30 minutes.
3. Completely remove the lists from the server.
4. Re-create the list.

At this point, everything will be back online and ready to roll
with the new list. I don't intend to put the lists on hold or
anything of that nature, so once you've subscribed, assume that
the list is 'live'. I suspect that the lists will be available
approximately 1 hour after I send the message saying that I am
beginning the reset. In practice it will only take me a couple
of minutes to do it, but I want to give the mail a chance to
propagate.

Hopefully that will clear things up a little bit.

-Mark
Message no. 2
From: David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:10:20 -0700
On 25 May 98, at 23:56, Mark A. Imbriaco wrote:

> 1) I'm aware of the duplicate message problem. I don't see anything
> obvious causing it right now, so I'm going to ignore it until I restart
> the lists.
>
> 2) Re: Resetting the lists. Here's how it's going to work.
>
> 1. I send out a message saying that the lists are getting
> reset.
> 2. Wait 30 minutes.
> 3. Completely remove the lists from the server.
> 4. Re-create the list.
>
> At this point, everything will be back online and ready to roll
> with the new list. I don't intend to put the lists on hold or
> anything of that nature, so once you've subscribed, assume that
> the list is 'live'. I suspect that the lists will be available
> approximately 1 hour after I send the message saying that I am
> beginning the reset. In practice it will only take me a couple
> of minutes to do it, but I want to give the mail a chance to
> propagate.
>
> Hopefully that will clear things up a little bit.
>
> -Mark
>
The plan looks good. I would make an addition, when you know for sure when
this is going to happen. Post the approximate date and time (and the time
zone). That way the more fanactic or is it addicted members of this list can be
on line to get the final "I have started the purge" notice. So they can set
thier
on hour timer.





David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org

====================================================
Those who are too intelligent to engage in politics
are punished by being governed by those who are not
--Plato
Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 11:14:48 +0100
And verily, did David Hinkley hastily scribble thusly...
|The plan looks good. I would make an addition, when you know for sure when
|this is going to happen. Post the approximate date and time (and the time
|zone). That way the more fanactic or is it addicted members of this list can be
|on line to get the final "I have started the purge" notice. So they can set
thier
|on hour timer.

I've just had a wonderful *ping* idea....
<Pulls cord and lightbulb over head goes out>

Is there any way to make elm DELAY posting a message for a set amount of
time? 'cos if there is, when the date came through, I could set it to send
the subscribe message automatically, while I'm away....

--
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
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|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 4
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:47:33 -0400
Spike wrote:
>I've just had a wonderful *ping* idea....
><Pulls cord and lightbulb over head goes out>
>
>Is there any way to make elm DELAY posting a message for a set amount of
>time? 'cos if there is, when the date came through, I could set it to send
>the subscribe message automatically, while I'm away....

Well, it's easy enough to tell unix to delay running elm... Set up a
crontab to run "elm -s subject email@******* < message.file" at the
appropriate time.

If you can't run crontab, setup a sh script to sleep lots and then run
elm as above. The just run the script with nohup.

James Ojaste
Message no. 5
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:57:03 -0500
>
> And verily, did David Hinkley hastily scribble thusly...
> |The plan looks good. I would make an addition, when you know for sure when
> |this is going to happen. Post the approximate date and time (and the time
> |zone). That way the more fanactic or is it addicted members of this list can be
> |on line to get the final "I have started the purge" notice. So they can
set thier
> |on hour timer.
>
> I've just had a wonderful *ping* idea....
> <Pulls cord and lightbulb over head goes out>
>
> Is there any way to make elm DELAY posting a message for a set amount of
> time? 'cos if there is, when the date came through, I could set it to send
> the subscribe message automatically, while I'm away....
>
I don't think so, but if you have access to cron on the machine
you could probably get that to work. :)


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Lehlan Decker 644-4534 Systems Development
decker@****.fsu.edu http://www.scri.fsu.edu/~decker
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The universe doesn't have laws, it has habits. And habits can be broken.
Message no. 6
From: Justin Bell <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:51:59 -0500
At 11:14 AM 5/27/98 +0100, Spike wrote:
# And verily, did David Hinkley hastily scribble thusly...
# |The plan looks good. I would make an addition, when you know for sure when
# |this is going to happen. Post the approximate date and time (and the time
# |zone). That way the more fanactic or is it addicted members of this list
can be
# |on line to get the final "I have started the purge" notice. So they can
set thier
# |on hour timer.
#
# I've just had a wonderful *ping* idea....
# <Pulls cord and lightbulb over head goes out>
#
# Is there any way to make elm DELAY posting a message for a set amount of
# time? 'cos if there is, when the date came through, I could set it to send
# the subscribe message automatically, while I'm away....

at 10:00
at> echo subscribe shadowrn|/bin/mailx -s" " listserv@********.itribe.net
ctrl-D

--
/- justin@****.mcp.com -------------------- justin@******.net -\
|Justin Bell NIC:JB3084| Time and rules are changing. |
|Simon & Schuster | Attention span is quickening. |
|Programmer | Welcome to the Information Age. |
\------------ http://www.mcp.com/people/justin/ ---------------/
Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:35:20 +0100
And verily, did Justin Bell hastily scribble thusly...
|at 10:00
|at> echo subscribe shadowrn|/bin/mailx -s" " listserv@********.itribe.net
|ctrl-D

Hmmm...
I'll give it a try, but how do you set the date in it?

--
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 8
From: Justin Bell <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:55:00 -0500
At 04:35 PM 5/27/98 +0100, Spike wrote:
# And verily, did Justin Bell hastily scribble thusly...
# |at 10:00
# |at> echo subscribe shadowrn|/bin/mailx -s" " listserv@********.itribe.net
# |ctrl-D
#
# Hmmm...
# I'll give it a try, but how do you set the date in it?

try

[[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.SS]
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/- justin@****.mcp.com -------------------- justin@******.net -\
|Justin Bell NIC:JB3084| Time and rules are changing. |
|Simon & Schuster | Attention span is quickening. |
|Programmer | Welcome to the Information Age. |
\------------ http://www.mcp.com/people/justin/ ---------------/
Message no. 9
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:04:10 +0100
And verily, did Justin Bell hastily scribble thusly...
|# Hmmm...
|# I'll give it a try, but how do you set the date in it?
|
|try
|
|[[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.SS]

thanks.
I skipped through the man pages just now, and it'll accept something like
at noon tomorrow....

So as long as the purge happens on Saturday morning....
Hmmmm. Then again, we're 5 -8 hours ahead, so a specific time might be
betterer....
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 10
From: rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Duplicates and the purge.
Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:47:13 -0500
>
> At this point, everything will be back online and ready to roll
> with the new list. I don't intend to put the lists on hold or
> anything of that nature, so once you've subscribed, assume that
> the list is 'live'. I suspect that the lists will be available
> approximately 1 hour after I send the message saying that I am
> beginning the reset. In practice it will only take me a couple
> of minutes to do it, but I want to give the mail a chance to
> propagate.
>


Which lists are going to be affected by the purge?

Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com
Fourth and Sixth World Adept
Still working on the Fifth...

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