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Message no. 1
From: mark.imbriaco@*****.com (Mark Imbriaco)
Subject: [ADMIN] Hotmail and the lists.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:34:16 -0400
If you use Hotmail to read the lists, chances are you're not getting this
message, but just in case you are, a quick warning. I tappears that
Hotmail, in their infinite wisdom, returns an error 554 when their servers
are too overloaded to process more incoming mail. What this causes is a
bounce message back to the sender with the same error code, and according
to the SMTP specification, 5xx errors are permanent failures. Mailman, our
list management software, counts the number of these permanent failures,
and when there is more than a certain number (5 I believe) it automatically
unsubscribes the offending address(es). In the past day I've gotten at
least 20 notifications of Hotmail accounts being unsubscribed, so using
Hotmail to subscribe to the lists should be considered iffy at best. I'd
recommend you find another more reliable email provider if you're currently
using Hotmail.

For more information, read
this:
http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-20010521/026347.html

-Mark
Message no. 2
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: [ADMIN] Hotmail and the lists.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:37:07 -0500
Mark Imbriaco wrote:
>
> If you use Hotmail to read the lists, chances are you're not getting
> this message, but just in case you are, a quick warning. I tappears
> that Hotmail, in their infinite wisdom, returns an error 554 when their
> servers are too overloaded to process more incoming mail. What this
> causes is a bounce message back to the sender with the same error code,
> and according to the SMTP specification, 5xx errors are permanent
> failures.

Yet another reason to not use hotmail at all.
Message no. 3
From: Jeffleegreen@***.com (Jeffleegreen@***.com)
Subject: [ADMIN] Hotmail and the lists.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:24:47 -0400
In a message dated Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:37:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, justin@******.net
writes:

>
>
>
>
> Mark Imbriaco wrote:
> >
> > If you use Hotmail to read the lists, chances are you're not getting
> > this message, but just in case you are, a quick warning. I tappears
> > that Hotmail, in their infinite wisdom, returns an error 554 when their
> > servers are too overloaded to process more incoming mail. What this
> > causes is a bounce message back to the sender with the same error code,
> > and according to the SMTP specification, 5xx errors are
> permanent
> > failures.
>
> Yet another reason to not use hotmail at all.

Go figure it is from Microsoft
Message no. 4
From: Jeffleegreen@***.com (Jeffleegreen@***.com)
Subject: [ADMIN] Hotmail and the lists.
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:25:03 -0400
In a message dated Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:37:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, justin@******.net
writes:

>
>
>
>
> Mark Imbriaco wrote:
> >
> > If you use Hotmail to read the lists, chances are you're not getting
> > this message, but just in case you are, a quick warning. I tappears
> > that Hotmail, in their infinite wisdom, returns an error 554 when their
> > servers are too overloaded to process more incoming mail. What this
> > causes is a bounce message back to the sender with the same error code,
> > and according to the SMTP specification, 5xx errors are
> permanent
> > failures.
>
> Yet another reason to not use hotmail at all.

Go figure it is from Microsoft

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