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Message no. 1
From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:43:37 -0700
.. For lack of a better name ..

As most of you have noticed, when a minor infraction such as a HTML posting
or a un-snipped post happens, a ton of people tend to come out of the
woodwork and yell at the person who is guilty, which occasionally ends up
turning into a nice little flame war, generally pisses a ton of people off,
and at times, causes people to unsubscribe, giving us a nasty reputation.

Which of course, we don't like, or really deserve.

So, instead of having everyone respond to mis-posts and mistakes, we're
going to a appoint a few 'flunkies', for lack of a better term. (I like
enforcers, myself..). This 'flunkies' would be the ones who post things
such as "Hey so-and-so, you're posting in HTML!", or "Excuse me Mr Bob, but
you didn't snip anything from that post, and only added one line.", etc.

The current flunkies are of course the list admins: Mark I, Dvixen, and
Myself. We're looking for a few good men (or gals!) who have reliable
email access, have been on ShadowRN for awhile, are generally in good
standing with the other list members, and meet our super special
Alpha-3-Level criteria. Which, of course, we can't tell you what it is.

The people who are NOT flunkies would then be asked to NOT post things such
as that, but let the flunkies do their job. This will reduce OT clutter,
promote On-Topic discussion, and hopefully make the list a friendlier place.

So -- if you feel you want to be a certified ShadowRN Flunky, send an email
to me, at <fro@***.ab.ca>. Give me a quick run down of why you should be a
flunky. Chances are I'll recognize you, and make a snap decision whether
you're a worthy flunky or not, but I might just read the email and then
decide based on that.

I'll forward my choices to the other Admins, and we'll discuss, or yell, or
chant, or something like that.

The 'winners' will be announced sometime in the next couple of weeks, but
we're only looking for a *few* good flunkies, so get your application in
early!

-Adam
ShadowRN Enforcer
"We break your fingers till you post properly, or can't post at all!"
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Message no. 2
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:24:51 +0000
And verily, did Adam J hastily scribble thusly...
|The people who are NOT flunkies would then be asked to NOT post things such
|as that, but let the flunkies do their job. This will reduce OT clutter,
|promote On-Topic discussion, and hopefully make the list a friendlier place.

I hereby volunteer.
Mainly because I couldn't break the habbit of a lifetime....

|The 'winners' will be announced sometime in the next couple of weeks, but
|we're only looking for a *few* good flunkies, so get your application in
|early!

This early enough?

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Message no. 3
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:43:02 EST
In a message dated 98-02-12 07:26:00 EST, u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK writes:

> And verily, did Adam J hastily scribble thusly...
> |The people who are NOT flunkies would then be asked to NOT post things
such
> |as that, but let the flunkies do their job. This will reduce OT clutter,
> |promote On-Topic discussion, and hopefully make the list a friendlier
place.

( lots of strange shuffling noises heard in the background, and someone
yelling "OUCH", just as ....

(Spike, who reached the top of his own stairs first)
> I hereby volunteer.
> Mainly because I couldn't break the habbit of a lifetime....

You addict you....

> |The 'winners' will be announced sometime in the next couple of weeks, but
> |we're only looking for a *few* good flunkies, so get your application in
> |early!

As much as I would like too, I don't think I will. I somehow think the OTness
won't change ultimately, but my reasons for believing such are my own. I wish
all the other 'flunky-wannabees' the best of luck...like Spike here...

> This early enough?

Spike!!! Next time don't step on my toes to get to the podium!!! :)
-K
Message no. 4
From: losthalo <losthalo@********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:23:56 -0500
At 04:43 AM 2/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>So, instead of having everyone respond to mis-posts and mistakes, we're
>going to a appoint a few 'flunkies', for lack of a better term. (I like
>enforcers, myself..). This 'flunkies' would be the ones who post things
>such as "Hey so-and-so, you're posting in HTML!", or "Excuse me Mr Bob,
but
>you didn't snip anything from that post, and only added one line.", etc.

One meek little suggestion: Rather than sending the Thwaps, wedgies, and
"Hey, you're bein' a wanker!" comments to the list, could they be emailed
so that not everyone need read them? If we're trying to get rid of too
much OT, that would help.

losthalo
Message no. 5
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:59:17 +0000
> Myself. We're looking for a few good men (or gals!) who have reliable
> email access, have been on ShadowRN for awhile, are generally in good
> standing with the other list members, and meet our super special

"Good standing with other..." aw nuts.

> "We break your fingers till you post properly, or can't post at all!"

ROTFL!

-=SwiftOne=-
Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie
Message no. 6
From: Frank Pelletier <jeanpell@****.IVIC.QC.CA>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:12:28 +0000
losthalo <losthalo@********.COM> once wrote

> One meek little suggestion: Rather than sending the Thwaps, wedgies, and
> "Hey, you're bein' a wanker!" comments to the list, could they be emailed
> so that not everyone need read them? If we're trying to get rid of too
> much OT, that would help.

That's what I was hoping for... a little "This message was replied to in
private" method for the future list.flunkie.junior. I guess it would not
only cut down on the OT, like you said, but help more people into posting
according to the guideline than screaming blasphemies at them... But then
again, that's just my peonic opinion...

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Message no. 7
From: s c rose <scrose@****.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:55:52 -0600
Brett Borger wrote:
>
> > Myself. We're looking for a few good men (or gals!) who have reliable
> > email access, have been on ShadowRN for awhile, are generally in good
> > standing with the other list members, and meet our super special
>
> "Good standing with other..." aw nuts.

hehehe I agree with with you on this one, We debate and argue with each
other a great deal
beside which I'm still pretty new to the list IMO... I learn things from
the list all the time
that end up in my Game. I hope others might take some of my ideas and
use them or say that's down right silly I don't want to do that. :)





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Message no. 8
From: Damon Harper <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:05:06 PST
>And verily, did Adam J hastily scribble thusly...
>|The people who are NOT flunkies would then be asked to NOT post things
such
>|as that, but let the flunkies do their job. This will reduce OT
clutter,
>|promote On-Topic discussion, and hopefully make the list a friendlier
place.
>
>I hereby volunteer.
>Mainly because I couldn't break the habbit of a lifetime....
>
>|The 'winners' will be announced sometime in the next couple of weeks,
but
>|we're only looking for a *few* good flunkies, so get your application
in
>|early!
>
>This early enough?

Adam, you haven't selected the flunkies yet, so I'm still gonna bitch
:)
Please, folks(not just Spike), the man said to EMAIL HIM!
If you don't have his email, then by the process of natural selection
you can't be a flunky!
I have enough crap in my email box to have people quoting Adam and
then saying "OOOO, me!"
Thank you.

-Vagabond, who will resort to private email bitchings once the flunkies
are appointed. :)


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Message no. 9
From: Mon goose <landsquid@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:19:27 PST
I'd hope anybody who posts their response regarding wanting to be a list
flunky TO THE LIST instead of to the Adams requested PRIVATE MAIL is
automatically disqualified.

This thread is ALREADY generating OT posts.

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Message no. 10
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 02:15:57 +0500
At 12-Feb-98 wrote Adam J:

>.. For lack of a better name ..

>As most of you have noticed, when a minor infraction such as a HTML posting
>or a un-snipped post happens, a ton of people tend to come out of the
>woodwork and yell at the person who is guilty, which occasionally ends up
>turning into a nice little flame war, generally pisses a ton of people off,
>and at times, causes people to unsubscribe, giving us a nasty reputation.

>Which of course, we don't like, or really deserve.

>So, instead of having everyone respond to mis-posts and mistakes, we're
>going to a appoint a few 'flunkies', for lack of a better term. (I like
>enforcers, myself..). This 'flunkies' would be the ones who post things
>such as "Hey so-and-so, you're posting in HTML!", or "Excuse me Mr Bob,
but
>you didn't snip anything from that post, and only added one line.", etc.

>The current flunkies are of course the list admins: Mark I, Dvixen, and
>Myself. We're looking for a few good men (or gals!) who have reliable
>email access, have been on ShadowRN for awhile, are generally in good
>standing with the other list members, and meet our super special
>Alpha-3-Level criteria. Which, of course, we can't tell you what it is.

>The people who are NOT flunkies would then be asked to NOT post things such
>as that, but let the flunkies do their job. This will reduce OT clutter,
>promote On-Topic discussion, and hopefully make the list a friendlier place.

>So -- if you feel you want to be a certified ShadowRN Flunky, send an email
>to me, at <fro@***.ab.ca>. Give me a quick run down of why you should be a
>flunky. Chances are I'll recognize you, and make a snap decision whether
>you're a worthy flunky or not, but I might just read the email and then
>decide based on that.

>I'll forward my choices to the other Admins, and we'll discuss, or yell, or
>chant, or something like that.

>The 'winners' will be announced sometime in the next couple of weeks, but
>we're only looking for a *few* good flunkies, so get your application in
>early!

>-Adam
>ShadowRN Enforcer
> "We break your fingers till you post properly, or can't post at all!"
>-
>http://shadowrun.home.ml.org \ TSS Productions \ The Shadowrun Supplemental
>ShadowRN Assistant Fearless Leader \ AdamJ@******** \ fro@***.ab.ca
>The Shadowrun Archive Co-Maintainer: http://www.interware.it/shadowrun

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Message no. 11
From: Barbie <barbie@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:04:32 +0500
At 13-Feb-98 wrote Barbie:
BAHHH...sorry for the mail....

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Message no. 12
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:17:25 -0500
Bull steps forward and starts to speak, then blushes and sits back down,
realizing that he'd have to yell at himslef entirely too much. Oh well :]

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Message no. 13
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:16:29 +0000
And verily, did Mon goose hastily scribble thusly...
|
|I'd hope anybody who posts their response regarding wanting to be a list
|flunky TO THE LIST instead of to the Adams requested PRIVATE MAIL is
|automatically disqualified.
|
|This thread is ALREADY generating OT posts.

Spoilsport!

>*sulk*<

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Message no. 14
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:39:08 -0500
losthalo once dared to write,

>One meek little suggestion: Rather than sending the Thwaps, wedgies, and
>"Hey, you're bein' a wanker!" comments to the list, could they be emailed
>so that not everyone need read them? If we're trying to get rid of too
>much OT, that would help.

The problem with emailing in private is that other people don't =
know you did it so they are apt to respond. Of course a lot of people =
still respond without checking if other people have already responded =
so duplicate posts/ threats still occur.

And as much as I enjoy yelling at people I don't have the time =
to be dutifully watchful for the position. B>[#
"I coulda been a contender!"

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><=
><>

"THAT¹S NOT FAIR!"
"You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is."
-Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth

I am MC23
Message no. 15
From: losthalo <losthalo@********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:52:54 -0500
At 02:39 PM 2/13/98 -0500, you wrote:
> The problem with emailing in private is that other people don't know
you did it so they are apt to respond. Of course a lot of people still
respond without checking if other people have already responded so
duplicate posts/ threats still occur.

Well, the point *was* to have a few flunkies to do that, and no one else
would do it, knowing that the flunkies would have the thwapping situation
well in hand.

losthalo
Message no. 16
From: Drekhead <drekhead@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:26:42 -0500
On 13 Feb 98 at 1:17, Bull wrote:

> Bull steps forward and starts to speak, then blushes and sits back
> down, realizing that he'd have to yell at himslef entirely too much.
> Oh well :]

Besides, the last thing you need is yet another title in your sig
file.

:)

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Message no. 17
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:20:26 -0500
losthalo once dared to write,

>Well, the point *was* to have a few flunkies to do that, and no one else
>would do it, knowing that the flunkies would have the thwapping situation
>well in hand.

Well if we get a couple then they should be chosen to cover most of
the active posting time. Since we are international and on the go 24-7
there is a lot of active time. Things get rough when one of the usual
whipping boys is offline for a while and others decide to fill in for
them. Now when I know my boy Spike is online I know I don't need to say
anything.

As far as other suggestions for a perfect world, the new flunkies
should be friendlier than me about it when responding to faux pas. B>]#

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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Message no. 18
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [Admin] List flunkies wanted!
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:46:47 +0000
And verily, did MC23 hastily scribble thusly...
|
|losthalo once dared to write,
|
|>Well, the point *was* to have a few flunkies to do that, and no one else
|>would do it, knowing that the flunkies would have the thwapping situation
|>well in hand.
|
| Well if we get a couple then they should be chosen to cover most of
|the active posting time. Since we are international and on the go 24-7
|there is a lot of active time. Things get rough when one of the usual
|whipping boys is offline for a while and others decide to fill in for
|them. Now when I know my boy Spike is online I know I don't need to say
|anything.

Ahhh, but every other weekend, I'm not on line.
I'm down at Sutton Colefield at TA HQ doing trade training.

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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |

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