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Message no. 1
From: Mike Sapp <cynner29@******.NET>
Subject: Advanced Weapons was MP Laser
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:48:04 -0400
At 03:43 PM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Someone had mentioned a GRaser during this thread. In my
>overzealousness, I deleted that message. Crap. Anyway, where can I
>find out more info concerning this beasty. Perhaps I will adapt the
>Ares MP to a GRaser. Also, my understanding is that a GRaser is a Gamma
>Ray emitter, neh?
>
The GRaser is a gamma ray emmiter, but I should have said I don't think it
has a place in typical shadowrun games. The problem being that A) They
aren't dramatic weapons, using it against a soft target would be similiar
to watching hotdogs in the microwave, a little whurr and a bad smell at
first then it explodes. B) There's no realistic armor that can stop the
beam, I think they use a lead wall several meters thick to stop these
things, although it's available it's not something that you hang from a
skyscraper or cover a tank with C) power consumption probably exceeds that
of lasers (sidenote: the only natural source of GR, that I'm aware of are
stars, and supernovas at that,I could be wrong though, it's been awhile.)


As for advanced weaponry that deviates from kinetic slug throwers and
remains deadly, look at ultrasonics, gyrojets, minirails/coilguns. Ok so
railguns and coilguns are the definition of slug throwers but it varies a
great deal from what John Wayne used to settle his problems.
I am really suprised that FASA avoided the Gyrojet, even without smart
bullets, it's increased range and higher damage, with explosive heads,
makes it a formidable weapon that could easily be balanced through price
and availability. Sort of the supersniper weapon, range 4km damage 12S.
Unless they were trying to avoid problems with TSR since that company used
them in Star Frontiers (anybody remember playing that one?)

Cynner -
Yarzarians, Dralasites and Vrusks, Oh my.
Message no. 2
From: Geoffrey Giesemann <geoffwa@***********.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Advanced Weapons was MP Laser
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:44:16 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Sapp <cynner29@******.NET>
To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET <SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET>
Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 3:48 PM
Subject: Advanced Weapons was MP Laser



>At 03:43 PM 9/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Someone had mentioned a GRaser during this thread. In my
>>overzealousness, I deleted that message. Crap. Anyway, where can I
>>find out more info concerning this beasty. Perhaps I will adapt the
>>Ares MP to a GRaser. Also, my understanding is that a GRaser is a Gamma
>>Ray emitter, neh?
>>
> The GRaser is a gamma ray emmiter, but I should have said I don't
think it
>has a place in typical shadowrun games. The problem being that A) They
>aren't dramatic weapons, using it against a soft target would be similiar
>to watching hotdogs in the microwave, a little whurr and a bad smell at
>first then it explodes. B) There's no realistic armor that can stop the
>beam, I think they use a lead wall several meters thick to stop these
>things, although it's available it's not something that you hang from a
>skyscraper or cover a tank with C) power consumption probably exceeds that
>of lasers (sidenote: the only natural source of GR, that I'm aware of are
>stars, and supernovas at that,I could be wrong though, it's been awhile.)
>
>
> As for advanced weaponry that deviates from kinetic slug throwers
and
>remains deadly, look at ultrasonics, gyrojets, minirails/coilguns. Ok so
>railguns and coilguns are the definition of slug throwers but it varies a
>great deal from what John Wayne used to settle his problems.
> I am really suprised that FASA avoided the Gyrojet, even without
smart
>bullets, it's increased range and higher damage, with explosive heads,
>makes it a formidable weapon that could easily be balanced through price
>and availability. Sort of the supersniper weapon, range 4km damage 12S.
>Unless they were trying to avoid problems with TSR since that company used
>them in Star Frontiers (anybody remember playing that one?)
>
>Cynner -
> Yarzarians, Dralasites and Vrusks, Oh my.
>
If you think gamma radiation is bad, try antimatter for some cratering,
tachyon beams (faster than light) as well as railgun (bullets at the speed
of light) for more control. Oh, and does anyone use napalm?Or how about
'Orange Asia' that stuff they used in the Vietnam war?

Geoff
Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Advanced Weapons was MP Laser
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:03:17 +0100
|>
| The GRaser is a gamma ray emmiter, but I should have said I don't think it
|has a place in typical shadowrun games. The problem being that A) They
|aren't dramatic weapons, using it against a soft target would be similiar
|to watching hotdogs in the microwave, a little whurr and a bad smell at
|first then it explodes. B) There's no realistic armor that can stop the
|beam, I think they use a lead wall several meters thick to stop these
|things, although it's available it's not something that you hang from a
|skyscraper or cover a tank with C) power consumption probably exceeds that
|of lasers (sidenote: the only natural source of GR, that I'm aware of are
|stars, and supernovas at that,I could be wrong though, it's been awhile.)

One more disadvantage...
If someone survives a blast, don't make them angry...
You wouldn't like them when they're angry...


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Message no. 4
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Advanced Weapons was MP Laser
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:39:52 -0500
At 12:03 PM 9/9/97 +0100, Spike wrote:
#|>
#| The GRaser is a gamma ray emmiter,

#One more disadvantage...
#If someone survives a blast, don't make them angry...
#You wouldn't like them when they're angry...

I dunno, I'd be a little green with envy
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