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Message no. 1
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Aerodynamic grenades
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:12:14 +0100
D.Jaeck said on 8:43/26 May 96...

> > The same as normal grenades. When you go out grenade-shopping (like
> > grenade-fishing, but then different :) you say to the fixer/GM that you
> > want aerodynamic grenades, and there you have them.
>
> Are you sure, man? I mean, it seems as though their casings would
> need to be molded in a special manner or something to achieve better
> areodynamics, and that would probably raise the price a little.

I think so, because nowhere are separate prices given for aerodynamic an
non-aerodynamic grenades. AD-grenades have the disadvantage of greater
scatter than NAD ones, so the Holy Game Balance(tm) should still be more
or less level...

The better aerodynamics wouldn't be hard to achieve -- just stuff a
frisbee full of explosives and fragments, add a detonator, and there you
have your AD grenade.

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Message no. 2
From: "D.Jaeck" <dit@******.wpe.com>
Subject: Re: Aerodynamic grenades
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 07:22:12 +0400
> I think so, because nowhere are separate prices given for aerodynamic an
> non-aerodynamic grenades. AD-grenades have the disadvantage of greater
> scatter than NAD ones, so the Holy Game Balance(tm) should still be more
> or less level...

Granted, but I was more concerned with the fictional manufacturing
complications as opposed to game balance. Obviously, in the real
world, the ultimate effectiveness of an item is rarely, if ever related to it's price.
But I suppose Shadowrun isn't exactly set in the real world.

> The better aerodynamics wouldn't be hard to achieve -- just stuff a
> frisbee full of explosives and fragments, add a detonator, and there you
> have your AD grenade.

I guess that's one way to look at it. Probably not if you want to
live a long time, though. Regardless, I see your point.

Gunnar Jaeck
dit@******.wpe.com
"The man who has nothing to boast of but his illustrious ancestry, is
like the potato - the best part underground."
-Thomas Overbury
Message no. 3
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Aerodynamic grenades
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:17:49 +0100
D.Jaeck said on 7:22/29 May 96...

> > The better aerodynamics wouldn't be hard to achieve -- just stuff a
> > frisbee full of explosives and fragments, add a detonator, and there you
> > have your AD grenade.
>
> I guess that's one way to look at it. Probably not if you want to
> live a long time, though. Regardless, I see your point.

The frisbee would, of course, be a very primitive AD grenade. No doubt
Ares makes more sophisticated ones, but the general idea will be the same.

BTW, the only real-world examples of aerodynamic grenades I know of are
the American Ring Airfoil Grenades (RAGs) that were designed to be fired
from a launcher, not thrown. Anyone know if these were ever adopted by a
military?

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Message no. 4
From: Russ Myrick <rm91612@****.net>
Subject: Re: Aerodynamic grenades
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:27:31 -0700
Gurth wrote:
<snip> Anyone know if these were ever adopted by a military?
>

Not yet, but according to some friends of mine the US has been evaluating
3 different airfoils at Ft Hood for the past couple of years - still no
sale.

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