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Message no. 1
From: Jonas Bolander <Jonas.Bolander@****.SE>
Subject: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:24:50 +0200
I need some good ideas regarding a situation in my current scenario,
"Dead Man's Run".

Two operatives from the New Society of Jesus have hired the Players
to help them retrieve "an item". Last session the Runners, accompanied
by the Jesuit agents, managed to snatch the item (which turned out to be
corpse) from the Tir agents currently in possession of it.
During the snatch a trio of CyberZombies and some Combat Mages also
tried to get the corpse which have left the 'Runners feeling a bit
overmatched. This, and the fact that they are hauling around the corpse
in a standard issue bodybag while it was previously locked up in a
cryogenic airtight coffin with multiple BioHazard signs on it, has
prompted them to renegotiate their payment.

I feel a bit uninspired so I figured it could be a good idea to get
some ideas from the 'list.

The Jesuits want to get the corpse away to some safe place as far from
Aztlan (which they know have sent the CyberZombies mentioned above) and
Tir Tairngire (who had the corpse in the first place) as possible. It
should ideally be a place with a strong Catolic influence
and they need to get there _fast_. They are also apprehensive that the
corpse may be hazardous and would prefer to avoid public transports.
Where could they be heading? And how would they be travelling there?
Money is not a (big) problem. They are currently located in California,
Oakland.

How much should they pay the 'Runners to act as bodyguards? The previous
pay per 'Runner was 4000nY/day for the tracking phase and an additional
20000nY bonus for the snatch. I figure they might double the 'per day'
pay and maybe add another 20000 nY bonus for safe delivery and partial
amnesia but I'm not totally sure the 'Runners will be satisfied with
that ...


I would be grateful for any ideas ...

/Jonas Bolander

--
Jonas Bolander
Message no. 2
From: David Mezerette <mezeretted@*****.U-NANCY.FR>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:43:50 +0100
At 10:24 13/10/97 +0200, you wrote:
>I need some good ideas regarding a situation in my current scenario,
>"Dead Man's Run".
>
>Two operatives from the New Society of Jesus have hired the Players
>to help them retrieve "an item". Last session the Runners, accompanied
>by the Jesuit agents, managed to snatch the item (which turned out to be
>corpse) from the Tir agents currently in possession of it.
>During the snatch a trio of CyberZombies and some Combat Mages also
>tried to get the corpse which have left the 'Runners feeling a bit
>overmatched. This, and the fact that they are hauling around the corpse
>in a standard issue bodybag while it was previously locked up in a
>cryogenic airtight coffin with multiple BioHazard signs on it, has
>prompted them to renegotiate their payment.
>
>I feel a bit uninspired so I figured it could be a good idea to get
>some ideas from the 'list.
>
>The Jesuits want to get the corpse away to some safe place as far from
>Aztlan (which they know have sent the CyberZombies mentioned above) and
>Tir Tairngire (who had the corpse in the first place) as possible. It
>should ideally be a place with a strong Catolic influence
>and they need to get there _fast_. They are also apprehensive that the
>corpse may be hazardous and would prefer to avoid public transports.
>Where could they be heading? And how would they be travelling there?
>Money is not a (big) problem. They are currently located in California,
>Oakland.
>
>How much should they pay the 'Runners to act as bodyguards? The previous
>pay per 'Runner was 4000nY/day for the tracking phase and an additional
>20000nY bonus for the snatch. I figure they might double the 'per day'
>pay and maybe add another 20000 nY bonus for safe delivery and partial
>amnesia but I'm not totally sure the 'Runners will be satisfied with
>that ...
>
>
>I would be grateful for any ideas ...
>
>/Jonas Bolander
>
>--
>Jonas Bolander
>
If u can read french (and consequently the France sourcebook), i'd have them
heading to France, where there is REAL strong catholic influence, since the
power belongs to an oligarchy (of 4 noble families), but under 'control'
(officialy they are just consultants) of a cardinal, a druid and a
represenatnt of the Villiers (from Fuchi) family..more over there is the CCV
(Comite Catholic de Vigilance...not too hard to translate, i think...) which
deals w/ freedom of speech (or its restriction..)and which has its own
police (the 'police clericale') which can arrest u in case of speeches
against the church or the government...
And, some years ago, there was in Marseille a big corpse smuggling, which is
supposed to be stopped,but well, we all know how things go: cutting the head
of an organization ain't enough to stop its activities...
to complicate a lil, there's too this mysterious Mr de Fontainebleau,
recently seen w/ Damien Knight and Mr Darke (azt) (!!), which owns the
research center of Techno&Geo-magic of Paris + labs in the SOX in which no
one knows what's going on, + an orbital station....its main activities are
biotech and magic btw...

ChYlD
mezeretted@*****.u-nancy.fr
Message no. 3
From: Jonas Bolander <Jonas.Bolander@****.SE>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:14:38 +0200
On Oct 13, 10:43am, EXT AVS; David Mezerette wrote:
> Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
> At 10:24 13/10/97 +0200, you wrote:
> >I need some good ideas regarding a situation in my current scenario,
> >"Dead Man's Run".
> >
<snip>
> If u can read french (and consequently the France sourcebook), i'd have them
> heading to France, where there is REAL strong catholic influence, since the
> power belongs to an oligarchy (of 4 noble families), but under 'control'
> (officialy they are just consultants) of a cardinal, a druid and a
> represenatnt of the Villiers (from Fuchi) family..more over there is the CCV
> (Comite Catholic de Vigilance...not too hard to translate, i think...) which
> deals w/ freedom of speech (or its restriction..)and which has its own
> police (the 'police clericale') which can arrest u in case of speeches
> against the church or the government...
> And, some years ago, there was in Marseille a big corpse smuggling, which is
> supposed to be stopped,but well, we all know how things go: cutting the head
> of an organization ain't enough to stop its activities...
> to complicate a lil, there's too this mysterious Mr de Fontainebleau,
> recently seen w/ Damien Knight and Mr Darke (azt) (!!), which owns the
> research center of Techno&Geo-magic of Paris + labs in the SOX in which no
> one knows what's going on, + an orbital station....its main activities are
> biotech and magic btw...

Sorry, but my french is a bit too rusty to be useful ... so reading the
'France Sourcebook' is not an option. ;)
But still, France is definitely an option. And the 'hints' from the sourcebook
you detailed above makes it even more so ...
Hmm, religious police ...
Otherwise I was thinking along the lines of Spain or possibly the Phillipinos.
The problem is that the Jesuit agents really doesn't like the thought of
travelling that long by air. Especially since they have assensed the corpse
and found its aura ... disturbing (for example, it _has_ an aura). But if
they have no other choice ...
What about Quebec? Could that be an option? Hmm, now that I think about it,
is that a part of UCAS 2057?

>
> ChYlD

/Jonas Bolander



--
Jonas Bolander
Message no. 4
From: David Mezerette <mezeretted@*****.U-NANCY.FR>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:42:35 +0100
At 14:14 13/10/97 +0200, you wrote:
>On Oct 13, 10:43am, EXT AVS; David Mezerette wrote:
>> Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
>> At 10:24 13/10/97 +0200, you wrote:
>> >I need some good ideas regarding a situation in my current scenario,
>> >"Dead Man's Run".

>Otherwise I was thinking along the lines of Spain or possibly the Phillipinos.
>The problem is that the Jesuit agents really doesn't like the thought of
>travelling that long by air. Especially since they have assensed the corpse
>and found its aura ... disturbing (for example, it _has_ an aura). But if
>they have no other choice ...
>What about Quebec? Could that be an option? Hmm, now that I think about it,
>is that a part of UCAS 2057?

Nope, Quebec is a republic since the 1st january 2000 or 2001 (sorry, memory
prob); then it had no support from france: the support came w/ the coming
bact to power of the french aristocrats, about 2020
ChYlD
mezeretted@*****.u-nancy.fr
Message no. 5
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:40:12 -0500
<Snip: Jesuit Johnsons, Hot Corpse, where to
next?>

A major Jesuit university in the UCAS would be
my instincts, nice big warded area in the
basement for safekeeping until it can be sent on
to Rome for "proper burial".

IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
magical research.

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 6
From: The Spaceman <spaced@*.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:05:20 -0700
>>>>> Mike Elkins didst say unto the aether thusly:

# IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
# I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
# magical research.


So's Seattle University, home of the Dragonflight con. You could send
them there, Seattle being such a lovely place for lying low. SU is also mere
blocks from where the ATC pyramid is supposed to be, so you have them hide
in plain sight. And being in Seattle gives you (the GM) all sorts of other
factions to bedevil the players with....

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Message no. 7
From: "David R. Lowe" <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:30:15 -0800
><Snip: Jesuit Johnsons, Hot Corpse, where to
>next?>
>
>A major Jesuit university in the UCAS would be
>my instincts, nice big warded area in the
>basement for safekeeping until it can be sent on
>to Rome for "proper burial".
>
>IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
>I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
>magical research.
>


So's USF, the University of San Francisco. Not only that, but it's a major
medical school. Jesuit version of cybermancy anyone?

D.

David R. Lowe (dlowe@****.com)
Photography/Graphic Design

"I'm not a wuss, I just don't want to shoot the bunny."

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Message no. 8
From: Mike Elkins <MikeE@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..." -Reply
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:00:58 -0500
>>IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC
Jesuit?
>>I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
>>magical research.
>>
>
>So's USF, the University of San Francisco. Not
>only that, but it's a major medical school.
>Jesuit version of cybermancy anyone?
>
>D.

Even Betah!

Double-Domed Mike
Message no. 9
From: Jonathan Hurley <jhurley1@************.EDU>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:13:58 -0400
On Tuesday, October 14, 1997 12:40, Mike Elkins[SMTP:MikeE@*********.COM]
wrote:
> <Snip: Jesuit Johnsons, Hot Corpse, where to
> next?>
>
> A major Jesuit university in the UCAS would be
> my instincts, nice big warded area in the
> basement for safekeeping until it can be sent on
> to Rome for "proper burial".
>
> IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
> I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
> magical research.

(Sound of button being depressed, then released. Bystanders look around,
and then dash madly for the exits......)

Yes, Georgetown is a Jesuit University. But, the SR writers apparently
haven't noticed. Because it is apparently a "hot-bed of liberalism". (See
Dr. Rozilyn Hernandez' background info). Why do I have a hard time
believing that a Jesuit school is going to be the kind of place that Dr.
Hernandez would be on the faculty of?

Anyway, that is my two cents...

--
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deserve neither freedom nor security
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Jonathan Hurley (mailto:jhurley1@************.edu)
Message no. 10
From: Duncan McNeill-Burton <dmcneill@************.EDU>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:14:52 -0400
Mike elkins didst say:

><Snip: Jesuit Johnsons, Hot Corpse, where to
>next?>
>
>A major Jesuit university in the UCAS would be
>my instincts, nice big warded area in the
>basement for safekeeping until it can be sent on
>to Rome for "proper burial".
>
>IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
>I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
>magical research.
>

Be sure to add Scranton College in Scranton, PA to the list of Jesuit
schools...and its buried in the mountains of Northeast, PA...not exactly the
kind of place a bunch of inner-city runners really wants to be stranded :)

Later-
Duncan McNeill-Burton
-Berek Thunderfist, Wolf Lord of the Blackmane Company
-Freelance Corporate Espionage Agent
-Tech Priest in Training
http://attila.stevens-tech.edu/~dmcneill
Message no. 11
From: Czar Eggbert <czregbrt@*********.EDU>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:48:51 -0500
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Mike Elkins wrote:

> <Snip: Jesuit Johnsons, Hot Corpse, where to
> next?>
>
> A major Jesuit university in the UCAS would be
> my instincts, nice big warded area in the
> basement for safekeeping until it can be sent on
> to Rome for "proper burial".
>
> IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
> I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
> magical research.
>
> Double-Domed Mike

Hmm there's an Idea. Or there is Boston College in Boston MA,
Creighton University in Omaha NE, Loyola in Chicago IL, Loyola in
Califorina... ect..ect... Just do a web search for Jesuit and you'll come
up with a bunch ...

Czar Eggbert

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Message no. 12
From: David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:25:02 +0000
On 13 Oct 97 at 10:24, Jonas Bolander wrote:


> The Jesuits want to get the corpse away to some safe place as far
> from Aztlan (which they know have sent the CyberZombies mentioned
> above) and Tir Tairngire (who had the corpse in the first place) as
> possible. It should ideally be a place with a strong Catolic
> influence and they need to get there _fast_. They are also
> apprehensive that the corpse may be hazardous and would prefer to
> avoid public transports. Where could they be heading? And how would
> they be travelling there? Money is not a (big) problem. They are
> currently located in California, Oakland.

There is the University of San Francsico, a Jesuit instution
located near the northeast corner of Golden Gate Park in San
Franscisco. Also in San Francisco is St Mary's Cathideral and Mission
Delores. The mission was established in 1776 and is the oldest
Catholic church in San Fransico.

Closer to Oakland in Moraga is St Mary's College, if memory servesa
me right, it is a Dominican instution. Further south in Freemont
Cailfornia is Mission San Jose, another of the California missions
established in the mid 1700s.

Still Further south is the University of Santa Clara, another
[slightly inferior :) } jesuit instution. Located on the grounds of
this university is Mission Santa Clara.

All of these locations should be noted on road maps of the area. They
are all within reasonable driving distance of Oakland (currently
well less then ninty mintues by freeway). Driving or helocopter, in
my opinon being the only two practical modes of travel.

As to my opinion of which one would be best. Despite my being an
alumni of USF, I think University of Santa Clara is the best
destination. It is a jusit instution, getting threre does not require
crossing through or around Japanese check points, and the Mission is
the oldest of the three Catholic missions I named making it
one othe oldest churches in the area.

> How much should they pay the 'Runners to act as bodyguards? The
> previous pay per 'Runner was 4000nY/day for the tracking phase and
> an additional 20000nY bonus for the snatch. I figure they might
> double the 'per day' pay and maybe add another 20000 nY bonus for
> safe delivery and partial amnesia but I'm not totally sure the
> 'Runners will be satisfied with that ...
>
Sounds reasonable, especially as it should also include the Socitiy
of Jesus"owing" the runners.





David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
******************************************************
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve niether liberty or
safety.
Ben Franklin
Message no. 13
From: David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:25:03 +0000
On 14 Oct 97 at 9:30, David R. Lowe wrote:


> >IIRC, isn't Georgetown University in DC Jesuit?
> >I believe it's mentioned as a major place of
> >magical research.
> >
>
>
> So's USF, the University of San Francisco. Not only that, but it's a
> major medical school. Jesuit version of cybermancy anyone?
>
USF is a jesuit instution with very good, Law, Business and Nursing
Schools (among others). It does not have a medical school. University
of California has the very good medical school that is located in San
Francisco.

In attempt to reduce further confusion, San Franscico also is the
home of Hastings (UC's Law School), San Francisco State
University, the University of the Pacific's Dental School and a
couple of smaller private law schools. At one time or another each
has been confused with a part of another. I know I graduated from
USF.






David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
******************************************************
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
little temporary safety deserve niether liberty or
safety.
Ben Franklin
Message no. 14
From: "David R. Lowe" <dlowe@****.COM>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:57:58 -0800
At 4:25 AM 10/16/97, David Hinkley wrote:

>> So's USF, the University of San Francisco. Not only that, but it's a
>> major medical school. Jesuit version of cybermancy anyone?
>>
>USF is a jesuit instution with very good, Law, Business and Nursing
>Schools (among others). It does not have a medical school. University
>of California has the very good medical school that is located in San
>Francisco.
>
>In attempt to reduce further confusion, San Franscico also is the
>home of Hastings (UC's Law School), San Francisco State
>University, the University of the Pacific's Dental School and a
>couple of smaller private law schools. At one time or another each
>has been confused with a part of another. I know I graduated from
>USF.

Ooops. Serves me right for posting before thinking. USCF is the medical
school, not USF. Oh well, what can you expect from a SF State grad?

D.

David R. Lowe (dlowe@****.com)
Photography/Graphic Design

"I'm not a wuss, I just don't want to shoot the bunny."

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Message no. 15
From: David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 01:26:45 +0000
On 16 Oct 97 at 13:57, David R. Lowe wrote:


>
> Ooops. Serves me right for posting before thinking. USCF is the
> medical school, not USF. Oh well, what can you expect from a SF
> State grad?
>
Do you per chance mean UCSF? As to your question, a little more then
from a non-graduate. :)




David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
******************************************************
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little temporary safety deserve niether liberty or
safety.
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Message no. 16
From: Stefan <casanova@******.PASSAGEN.SE>
Subject: Re: "All shot up, and nowhere to go ..."
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:27:20 +0000
[SNIP]

> Where could they be heading? And how would they be travelling there?
> Money is not a (big) problem. They are currently located in California,
> Oakland.

Well I would say that there are places to go or other countries to
visit ... France, Italy or the Vatican ... The pope could protect
them with his nukes :)

How to get there .. well a plane or boat ... if the corpse is
important to the church I am sure they could arrange for some form of
transportation ..

/Stefan

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