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Message no. 1
From: Mongoose <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: All Tricks Magical to skinn the cat
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:31:57 -0600
:Uhr, ah, could it maybe that the above was not possible at all???
:Leme see, the mage could cast the Tridphantasm inside the ward as he
:had made the ward itself. OK. But than, doesn't Wards blurr the Spells
:beeing cast through by it's Force? If so could it be that the mage
:cast the spell inside the Ward, but no one outside the Ward would
:notice? if so which rules would apply to make the Illusion visible?
:Can't remember something like that in the SR3rd.


Heh. Somebody else finally noticed that little "paradox". It seems
even hinkier with a "invisibility" spell. Basically, the "problem" is
that the spell is affecting persons who are not "targeted".
So what's the answer? In your case, the ward is no problem, because
you are its creator; it will never hinder your magic use. But it works
the other way also; if the Toxic Shaman had used illusions, your runners
(hidden in their wards) would have to make normal resistance tests, and
the Shamans spell use would not be affected. Weird, huh?
The best way to figure is that such spells create a localized effect,
and that effect is then viewed as normal. Mana illusion spells affect
"mana photons", but not physical ones. Like I said, hinky.

Mongoose
Message no. 2
From: Steadfast <laughingman@*******.DE>
Subject: Re: All Tricks Magical to skinn the cat
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:27:09 +0100
And so it came to happen that Mongoose wrote in reply to Myself:
>
> :Uhr, ah, could it maybe that the above was not possible at all???
> :Leme see, the mage could cast the Tridphantasm inside the ward as he
> :had made the ward itself. OK. But than, doesn't Wards blurr the Spells
> :beeing cast through by it's Force? If so could it be that the mage
> :cast the spell inside the Ward, but no one outside the Ward would
> :notice? if so which rules would apply to make the Illusion visible?
> :Can't remember something like that in the SR3rd.
>
> Heh. Somebody else finally noticed that little "paradox". It seems
> even hinkier with a "invisibility" spell. Basically, the
"problem" is
> that the spell is affecting persons who are not "targeted".
> So what's the answer? In your case, the ward is no problem, because
> you are its creator; it will never hinder your magic use. But it works
> the other way also; if the Toxic Shaman had used illusions, your runners
> (hidden in their wards) would have to make normal resistance tests, and
> the Shamans spell use would not be affected. Weird, huh?
> The best way to figure is that such spells create a localized effect,
> and that effect is then viewed as normal. Mana illusion spells affect
> "mana photons", but not physical ones. Like I said, hinky.

Sounds logical to me and would have posted nearly the same hear if I could make
myself better clear in english. Good thing to see it that way, keeps it simple.
Thanks.
--
---> Steadfast...Selfproclaimed Protector of Ger.BABY's
Surfin' through the 'trix is
not like dustin crops boy!
Uh, 089 of 200 it states in Ger. BABY...

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