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From:	Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Ally Ritual of Change Question.
Date:	Sun, 23 Aug 1998 18:46:49 -0500

Message no. 1 If I create a Force 2 Ally spirit with +1 Quickness, then decide to raise
the force from 2 to 3 in a Ritual of change, will the quickness after the
Ritual be 3 or 4? I can't tell from the wording in Grimmy and Awakenings
doesn't seem to have any help I can find ...

Thanks,

D. Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
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From:	"Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject:	Re: Ally Ritual of Change Question.
Date:	Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:05:48 -0300

Message no. 2 Alfredo B Alves wrote:
>
> If I create a Force 2 Ally spirit with +1 Quickness, then decide to raise
> the force from 2 to 3 in a Ritual of change, will the quickness after the
> Ritual be 3 or 4? I can't tell from the wording in Grimmy and Awakenings
> doesn't seem to have any help I can find ...
>

It will have quickness 4, since you've already paid for the modifier
before, it still applies..

Bira

From:	K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: Ally Ritual of Change Question.
Date:	Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:21:01 EDT

Message no. 3 In a message dated 8/23/1998 6:50:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

> If I create a Force 2 Ally spirit with +1 Quickness, then decide to raise
> the force from 2 to 3 in a Ritual of change, will the quickness after the
> Ritual be 3 or 4? I can't tell from the wording in Grimmy and Awakenings
> doesn't seem to have any help I can find ...
>
> Thanks,

IMO, and not a canon rule explanation I know, I would say that the Quickness
is raised up to a 4 afterwards as well.

-K

From:	David Foster <fixer@*******.TLH.FL.US>
Subject:	Re: Ally Ritual of Change Question.
Date:	Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:40:57 -0400

Message no. 4 On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, Alfredo B Alves wrote:

->If I create a Force 2 Ally spirit with +1 Quickness, then decide to raise
->the force from 2 to 3 in a Ritual of change, will the quickness after the
->Ritual be 3 or 4? I can't tell from the wording in Grimmy and Awakenings
->doesn't seem to have any help I can find ...

That's the ay I always ran it in my campaign. After all, you're
only buying an increase, not a rating.

Fixer --------------} The easy I do before breakfast,
the difficult I do all day long,
the impossible only during the week,
and miracles performed on an as-needed basis....

Now tell me, what was your problem?

From:	Brian Moore <mooreb@****.FAC.COM>
Subject:	Re: Ally Ritual of Change Question.
Date:	Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:24:02 -0400

Message no. 5 Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM> said:
>
> If I create a Force 2 Ally spirit with +1 Quickness, then decide to raise
> the force from 2 to 3 in a Ritual of change, will the quickness after the
> Ritual be 3 or 4? I can't tell from the wording in Grimmy and Awakenings
> doesn't seem to have any help I can find ...

My mage has never done any changes to his ally, so it's never come up in
the campaign I play in. But IIRC, the Grimoire explicitly states that stats
from allies don't increase if the force increases. Otherwise, a munchkin
would buy a Force 1 ally with improved stats, then increase the force with a
Ritual of Change afterwards to get huge stats. This may only apply to
Inhabiting allies (which mine is), I'm not sure. I'll try to look it up
tonight.

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