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Message no. 1
From: "Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman" <jeremy@***********.COM>
Subject: Alternate SR? (was Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:17:39 -0700
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> From: Danyel N Woods <9604801@********.AC.NZ>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053
> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 6:54 PM
>
> Quoth Erik Jameson (1209 29-4-98):
>
> But seriously, Erik, I think what he's referring to are the *liosalvar*
> and the *svartalvar* (light and dark 'alvar' (singular 'alv', meaning
> 'elf')). The liosalvar were the good guys, trying to make a life and be
> nice; the svartalvar just wanted to crush the 'light' team and take over
> the show (old story, new names).
>
> (I got the terms from a novel I read a couple of years ago, so I can't
> vouch for their accuracy. The spelling's right, though.)
>

Yay for Guy Gavrial Kay!

This does make me wonder one thing, though... has anyone just trashcanned
the SR races and made their own sort of "world" with different races from
some other fantasy novel and kept the rules? Like Kay's "The Summer Tree",
or the Jordan "Wheel of Time" books...? I don't know how well this would
work... but it did just occur to me.
Message no. 2
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Alternate SR? (was Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:43:45 +0100
And verily, did Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman hastily scribble thusly...
|This does make me wonder one thing, though... has anyone just trashcanned
|the SR races and made their own sort of "world" with different races from
|some other fantasy novel and kept the rules? Like Kay's "The Summer Tree",
|or the Jordan "Wheel of Time" books...? I don't know how well this would
|work... but it did just occur to me.
|

And if you did it for Jordans, would you do it BEFORE the breaking, so men
could use the one power safely, or would you have all men eventually burning
out or going gaga?

<HMMMM, anyone for a game of wheel of time?>
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Message no. 3
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Alternate SR? (was Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:00:01 -0400
Spike wrote:
>|This does make me wonder one thing, though... has anyone just trashcanned
>|the SR races and made their own sort of "world" with different races from
>|some other fantasy novel and kept the rules? Like Kay's "The Summer Tree",
>|or the Jordan "Wheel of Time" books...? I don't know how well this would
>|work... but it did just occur to me.
>
>And if you did it for Jordans, would you do it BEFORE the breaking, so men
>could use the one power safely, or would you have all men eventually burning
>out or going gaga?
>
><HMMMM, anyone for a game of wheel of time?>

Nah, WoT is too varied - there's too much scaling going on between
your average joe and any of the chars. SRII would just blow up.

You could probably manage Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" series
though. The main characters are gross, but it's "let's beat on a
couple dozen troops" gross, not "let's crack the world" gross.
Mmmm - Mord-Sith... :-)

James Ojaste
Message no. 4
From: "Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman" <jeremy@***********.COM>
Subject: Re: Alternate SR? (was Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:15:24 -0700
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> From: Ojaste,James [NCR] <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: Alternate SR? (was Re: Sv: Re: Scandinavia 2053)
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 1:00 PM
>
> Spike wrote:
> >|This does make me wonder one thing, though... has anyone just
trashcanned
> >|the SR races and made their own sort of "world" with different races
from
> >|some other fantasy novel and kept the rules? Like Kay's "The Summer
Tree",
> >|or the Jordan "Wheel of Time" books...? I don't know how well this
would
> >|work... but it did just occur to me.
> >
> >And if you did it for Jordans, would you do it BEFORE the breaking, so
men
> >could use the one power safely, or would you have all men eventually
burning
> >out or going gaga?
> >
> ><HMMMM, anyone for a game of wheel of time?>
>
> Nah, WoT is too varied - there's too much scaling going on between
> your average joe and any of the chars. SRII would just blow up.
>

I think it's all a relative scale. If I were to do it, the similarity to
WoT would be about the same as it's current similarity to AD&D or Tolkien.
Aes Sedai would be about the same level of power as current SR mages, the
key difference being that men would be better at some aspects of the power,
and women better at others. You might need to recategorize the spells.
Maybe substitute the Immortal Elves and the Horrors with the Forsaken, and
maybe a few other characters. Main problem I see cropping up is alternate
races... There's the Ogiers, but what else? You might be able to divide
the creatures of the Dark One into PC and NPC races... Trollocs on one
side, False Men on the other. Dunno... at the very least I'd say it would
require a fair amount of artistic license to adapt it to a SR-type
environment.

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