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Message no. 1
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:47:14 EST
After considering MC23's post a bit more, I'm clarifying my "Unofficial Poll"
that I'm taking. I'm currently just interesting in the "Shadowrun(ing) in
Space" part of things. I'm sure that the "Earthbound Stuff" will be
coverable and have plenty of people's thoughts/interests.

-K
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Message no. 2
From: Frank Pelletier (Trinity) fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:00:52 -0500
Make it a different game...

But not Shadowrun... I tried SR in Space, and it's called Shatterzone, and
frankly, it sucked. In my mind, Cyberpunk will always be tied in with those
lofty landscapes of LA seen in "Blade Runner", not 2001, nor Star Wars..

Now, if they see space like they do in the Aliens series... dark,
industrial, not all glitter and gadjets, but pipes and cables and metal and
more metal, then, I guess, it MIGHT be okay... but still...

Now if, on the other hand, they're putting super-duper mages in space, and
falling down the powermunchie road they once took with that whole IE thing,
I swear to God, this "bought every damn supplement since SR 1st ed." guy is
QUITTING SR. I'm really close to dropping it as it is, if they introduce BS
again, like superior magic and Earthdawn adept-like powers, it's a done
deal.

But I have faith in FASA. I'm sure they remember what Cyberpunk means.

Trinity
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Frank Pelletier
fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
"Let them hate me, provided they fear me" - Atreus

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Message no. 3
From: dghost@****.com dghost@****.com
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:22:32 -0800
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:00:52 -0500 "Frank Pelletier (Trinity)"
<fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> writes:
> Make it a different game...
>
> But not Shadowrun... I tried SR in Space, and it's called Shatterzone,
and
> frankly, it sucked. In my mind, Cyberpunk will always be tied in with
those
> lofty landscapes of LA seen in "Blade Runner", not 2001, nor Star
Wars..
>
> Now, if they see space like they do in the Aliens series... dark,
> industrial, not all glitter and gadjets, but pipes and cables and metal
and
> more metal, then, I guess, it MIGHT be okay... but still...
>
Why can't something like Earth: Final Conflict be a Shadowrun setting
(for lack of a better word)? It's not gritty but the activities are
Shadowrunny. I think it's somewhere between Sci Fi/Cyberpunk and Sci
Fi/Spy. However, think of adapting it a bit. The Talons are a corp
instead of an alien race. Runners my see Space Facilities in the course
of a run (ie, if they hit NASA, Inc), but most likely they won't go INTO
space unless they get captured and are subverted to the space program.
They may be sent on a manned (One-way) space mission rather than risking
someone (semi) important.

--
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Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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Message no. 4
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:10:32 -0500
dghost@****.com wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:00:52 -0500 "Frank Pelletier (Trinity)"
> <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> writes:
> <SNIP>
> Why can't something like Earth: Final Conflict be a Shadowrun setting
> (for lack of a better word)? It's not gritty but the activities are
> Shadowrunny. I think it's somewhere between Sci Fi/Cyberpunk and Sci
> Fi/Spy. However, think of adapting it a bit. The Talons are a corp
> instead of an alien race. Runners my see Space Facilities in the course
> of a run (ie, if they hit NASA, Inc), but most likely they won't go INTO
> space unless they get captured and are subverted to the space program.
> They may be sent on a manned (One-way) space mission rather than risking
> someone (semi) important.
>

Yes, I like that, the implications of the run affect space, but the runs
are earthbound. You'd just need to justify a reason for runs which affect
space, maybe a new space race? Maybe some corp has developed tech to extract
minerals from Haley's Comet or asteroids cheaply. Just think, you've got what
could be an unlimited supply of materials and no competition. What corp
wouldn't want that?

>
> --
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> Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
> -Groucho Marx
>
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Message no. 5
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:24:49 EST
In a message dated 11/16/1999 9:10:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
strago@***.com writes:

> > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:00:52 -0500 "Frank Pelletier (Trinity)"
> > <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> writes:
> > <SNIP>
> > Why can't something like Earth: Final Conflict be a Shadowrun setting
> > (for lack of a better word)? It's not gritty but the activities are
> > Shadowrunny. I think it's somewhere between Sci Fi/Cyberpunk and Sci
> > Fi/Spy. However, think of adapting it a bit. The Talons are a corp

THE WHO/WHAT??? You mean the "Ta'Lonns???" (I can't find the actual
spelling on this one, I haven't been to the website yet).

> > instead of an alien race. Runners my see Space Facilities in the course
> > of a run (ie, if they hit NASA, Inc), but most likely they won't go INTO
> > space unless they get captured and are subverted to the space program.
> > They may be sent on a manned (One-way) space mission rather than risking
> > someone (semi) important.
> >
>
> Yes, I like that, the implications of the run affect space, but the
runs
> are earthbound. You'd just need to justify a reason for runs which affect
> space, maybe a new space race? Maybe some corp has developed tech to
extract
> minerals from Haley's Comet or asteroids cheaply. Just think, you've got
> what
> could be an unlimited supply of materials and no competition. What corp
> wouldn't want that?

Actually, this concept is being pursued/investigated now. With the rising
power of the megacorporations, and the parallel development of so many
'Awakened Nations' on earth starting to push/fight back (*YOU* explain to
Amazonia why you want to re-establish deforestation!!!!). Resource rushes
alone would do some of it IMO.

I'm not necessarily been saying "your runner group has space capability", but
more along the lines of "your runners have backgrounds in space, left the
company, but occasionally go do more "dirtier work" for them now and again"

as well.

-K
[Hoosier Hacker House]
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Message no. 6
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:42:31 -0500
Ereskanti@***.com wrote:

> In a message dated 11/16/1999 9:10:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> strago@***.com writes:
>
> <Snip>
>
> Actually, this concept is being pursued/investigated now. With the rising
> power of the megacorporations, and the parallel development of so many
> 'Awakened Nations' on earth starting to push/fight back (*YOU* explain to
> Amazonia why you want to re-establish deforestation!!!!). Resource rushes
> alone would do some of it IMO.
>
> I'm not necessarily been saying "your runner group has space capability",
but
> more along the lines of "your runners have backgrounds in space, left the
> company, but occasionally go do more "dirtier work" for them now and
again"
> as well.
>

As long as there's no leaving the manasphere or "super-mages" who can toss
around
force 12 Manaballs with NO Drain, I don't care.

>
> -K
> [Hoosier Hacker House]
> [http://members.aol.com/hhackerh/index.html]
> ICQ#-51511837

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Message no. 7
From: Bira ubiratan@**.homeshopping.com.br
Subject: Alter Subject (Shadowrun in Space)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:55:01 -0200
On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:00:52 -0500
"Frank Pelletier (Trinity)" <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> wrote:

> Make it a different game...
>
> But not Shadowrun... I tried SR in Space, and it's called Shatterzone, and
> frankly, it sucked. In my mind, Cyberpunk will always be tied in with those
> lofty landscapes of LA seen in "Blade Runner", not 2001, nor Star Wars..
>
> Now, if they see space like they do in the Aliens series... dark,
> industrial, not all glitter and gadjets, but pipes and cables and metal and
> more metal, then, I guess, it MIGHT be okay... but still...

> But I have faith in FASA. I'm sure they remember what Cyberpunk means.

Cyberpunk can also be space, you just have to give space the
right feel. Either "Alien industrial" or like the orbital habitats from
"Neuromancer" and "Count Zero", from William Gibson. Neuromancer is to
cyberpunk role-playing in general what Lord of the Rings was to fantasy
games :) .


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