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Message no. 1
From: ratinox@******.gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Subject: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:18:59 GMT
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On Sun, 19 May 1996 11:33:12 +0100, "Gurth" <Gurth@******.nl> wrote:

>> Isn't that what the Fashion spell is for?
>No, it's Makeover. Fashion is for your clothes :)

Hey, has anyone besides me used Fashion or Makeover to pop a spell lock?
Just wondering...

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Message no. 2
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 09:51:05 -0600 (MDT)
Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
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|On Sun, 19 May 1996 11:33:12 +0100, "Gurth" <Gurth@******.nl> wrote:
|
|>> Isn't that what the Fashion spell is for?
|>No, it's Makeover. Fashion is for your clothes :)
|
|Hey, has anyone besides me used Fashion or Makeover to pop a spell lock?
|Just wondering...

LOL, Not yet <GM grin>.

-David

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Message no. 3
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 17:55:49 +0100 (BST)
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|Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
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||On Sun, 19 May 1996 11:33:12 +0100, "Gurth" <Gurth@******.nl> wrote:
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||>> Isn't that what the Fashion spell is for?
||>No, it's Makeover. Fashion is for your clothes :)
||
||Hey, has anyone besides me used Fashion or Makeover to pop a spell lock?
||Just wondering...
|
|LOL, Not yet <GM grin>.

What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?
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Message no. 4
From: dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:16:45 -0600 (MDT)
A Halliwell wrote:
||
||Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
|||
|||Hey, has anyone besides me used Fashion or Makeover to pop a spell lock?
|||Just wondering...
||
||LOL, Not yet <GM grin>.
|
|What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?

If you are a mage and you're in astral space, do you have to use a combat
spell to destroy a spell lock? Or a destructive spell for that matter? I
think that's what SSR was talking about. And, would a spell like Fashion or
Makeover ground out if used in this fashion?

If SSR was talking about something else I'm sure he'll correct me. In any
event I'm curious now.

-David

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Message no. 5
From: ratinox@******.gweep.net (Stainless Steel Rat)
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 00:00:45 GMT
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On Mon, 20 May 1996 11:16:45 -0600 (MDT), dbuehrer@****.org (David
Buehrer) wrote:

>|What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?
>If you are a mage and you're in astral space, do you have to use a combat
>spell to destroy a spell lock? Or a destructive spell for that matter? I
>think that's what SSR was talking about.

Exactly. And to answer the questions, the only restrictions on the spells
used are a) it must be a physical spell, and b) it cannot be a damaging
manipulation. While Fashion and Makeover are both physical manipulation
spells, they are not damaging manipulations.

>And, would a spell like Fashion or Makeover ground out if used in this
>fashion?

Yup. All kinds of amusing things you can do with these two spells that
almost nobody ever takes.

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Message no. 6
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 21:19:47 -0400 (EDT)
At 12:00 AM 5/21/96 GMT, you wrote:
>dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer) wrote:

>>|What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?
>
>>If you are a mage and you're in astral space, do you have to use a combat
>>spell to destroy a spell lock? Or a destructive spell for that matter? I
>>think that's what SSR was talking about.
>
>Exactly. And to answer the questions, the only restrictions on the spells
>used are a) it must be a physical spell, and b) it cannot be a damaging
>manipulation. While Fashion and Makeover are both physical manipulation
>spells, they are not damaging manipulations.

I hate to re-open the oldest argument in SR, but it doesn't have to be a
physical spell, unless you're trying to ground an area of effect spell.
I agree about no DM spells being allowed, but I was under the impression
that only Combat spells were allowed. No big deal, really.

>>And, would a spell like Fashion or Makeover ground out if used in this
>>fashion?
>
>Yup. All kinds of amusing things you can do with these two spells that
>almost nobody ever takes.

I don't think I'd allow a fashion spell to alter the form of spell locks, if
that's what you're thinking. If you could do that, you could then in theory
do it any active focus, with the exception of those in non-clothing form
like weapon foci. That seems a bit much to me.

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Message no. 7
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 96 18:05:14 +1030
>I hate to re-open the oldest argument in SR, but it doesn't have to be a
>physical spell, unless you're trying to ground an area of effect spell.
>I agree about no DM spells being allowed, but I was under the impression
>that only Combat spells were allowed. No big deal, really.

"Attacking Through A Focus": Remember that the attacking spell must be a
physical spell to work in this manner [which means grounding in the first
place].




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Message no. 8
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:01:17 +0100
A Halliwell said on 17:55/20 May 96...

> ||>> Isn't that what the Fashion spell is for?
> ||>No, it's Makeover. Fashion is for your clothes :)
> ||
> ||Hey, has anyone besides me used Fashion or Makeover to pop a spell lock?
> ||Just wondering...
> |
> |LOL, Not yet <GM grin>.
>
> What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?

I think Rat means casting a spell that would ground out, at the lock.
Makeover is a Physical spell, so it can affect the wearer of the spell
lock; casting it through the lock means the spell has to overcome the
lock, and thereby destroys it. It also gives the cleans of the lock, does
his/her hair, and so on :)

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Message no. 9
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:36:36 +0100
Ubiquitous said on 21:19/20 May 96...

> >Yup. All kinds of amusing things you can do with these two spells that
> >almost nobody ever takes.
>
> I don't think I'd allow a fashion spell to alter the form of spell locks, if
> that's what you're thinking. If you could do that, you could then in theory
> do it any active focus, with the exception of those in non-clothing form
> like weapon foci. That seems a bit much to me.

A single-target spell cast at a spell lock will affect the wearer of the
spell lock, not just the lock itself.

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Message no. 10
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:15:25 +0200
At 2:00 Uhr 21.05.96, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
>>If you are a mage and you're in astral space, do you have to use a combat
>>spell to destroy a spell lock? Or a destructive spell for that matter? I
>>think that's what SSR was talking about.

>Exactly. And to answer the questions, the only restrictions on the spells
>used are a) it must be a physical spell, and b) it cannot be a damaging
>manipulation. While Fashion and Makeover are both physical manipulation
>spells, they are not damaging manipulations.

>>And, would a spell like Fashion or Makeover ground out if used in this
>>fashion?

>Yup. All kinds of amusing things you can do with these two spells that
>almost nobody ever takes.

In my opinion both are must-haves, especially if you are moving in better
areas then the Barrens. Especially Makeover helps to get rid of those
blood stains, and Fashion is really needed if one plans to move from the
Barrens to some AAA-Area (Ever tried to cross the Barrens in a Mortimer
Suit? :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 11
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 06:31:48 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:36 AM 5/21/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Ubiquitous said on 21:19/20 May 96...

>> I don't think I'd allow a fashion spell to alter the form of spell locks, if
>> that's what you're thinking. If you could do that, you could then in theory
>> do it any active focus, with the exception of those in non-clothing form
>> like weapon foci. That seems a bit much to me.
>
>A single-target spell cast at a spell lock will affect the wearer of the
>spell lock, not just the lock itself.

I wasn't talking about grounding the spell, I was talking about using it to
mess up spell locks, ie., "I'm going to change his broach-shaped spell lock
into a ring-shaped one it falls off of him."

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Message no. 12
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 11:46:46 +0100 (BST)
|
|At 11:36 AM 5/21/96 +0100, you wrote:
|>Ubiquitous said on 21:19/20 May 96...
|>A single-target spell cast at a spell lock will affect the wearer of the
|>spell lock, not just the lock itself.
|
|I wasn't talking about grounding the spell, I was talking about using it to
|mess up spell locks, ie., "I'm going to change his broach-shaped spell lock
|into a ring-shaped one it falls off of him."

True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.

Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
here......
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Message no. 13
From: "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 16:16:27 GMT
David Buehrer writes

> A Halliwell wrote:
> ||
> |What do you mean by "pop" a spell lock?
>
> If you are a mage and you're in astral space, do you have to use a combat
> spell to destroy a spell lock? Or a destructive spell for that matter? I
> think that's what SSR was talking about. And, would a spell like Fashion or
> Makeover ground out if used in this fashion?
>
> If SSR was talking about something else I'm sure he'll correct me. In any
> event I'm curious now.
>
I think the origonal idea was that makover etc are not going to harm
the target, ground them through foci and the first the poor target
knows is when the focus breaks up. Note that by the rules grounding
ANY spell through a focus successfully destroys it. Mana spells will
do, as will the mind controlling etc manipulations and the makeover
typoe stuff. Damaging manipulations will not work as they are dual
spells, cretae physical magical matter that travels to the target on
the physical plane rather than the astral like combat spells, and
hence cannot be cast on the astral (no physical half).

The result is amusing, and assuming the target has no way to spot the
locks going pop allows you to get them without triggering det enemies
locked (makeover won't hurt him - make him look silly for a second
possibly if you give him a clown suit but astral project you cannot
sustain spells despite what certain novels sugest).

Mark
Message no. 14
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:39:16 +0200
At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.
>
>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>here......
Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's protective
value [...]". But... hm... does a knight's armor with wool padding inside have
the same armor value as a guard's armor? Maybe... but it's much more
encumbrancing :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 15
From: Peter David Boddy <pdboddy@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 96 14:01:24 EDT
Sascha Pabst writes:
>
> >Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> >armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
> >here......
> Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's protective
value [...]". But... hm... does a knight's armor with wool padding inside have
> the same armor value as a guard's armor? Maybe... but it's much more
> encumbrancing :-)

Thats the toughest evening gown in high fashion. Think about this, you
can turn your hard armour into a tres chic suit. Looks and feels like the
real thing, and can bounce assualt rifle rounds.

Pete

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Message no. 16
From: Joel Nesbitt <joel.nesbitt@******.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:01:58 +0100
> Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's protective
value [...]". But... hm... does a knight's armor with wool padding inside have
> the same armor value as a guard's armor? Maybe... but it's much more
> encumbrancing :-)

The shaman in our team used to use this spell to make his security armour look like heavy
biker clothes, though
now the GM has reconsidered and restricted the use of the spell so as to avoid this
somewhat (uh-oh)
munchkinous effect. I like the ballgown and the clown idea, though. Do you reckon
Makeover could be used to
give a guard a really silly hairstyle and beard?


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Message no. 17
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 20:33:48 +0200
At 20:01 Uhr 21.05.96, Joel Nesbitt wrote:
>The shaman in our team used to use this spell to make his security
>armour look like heavy biker clothes, though
>now the GM has reconsidered and restricted the use of the spell
>so as to avoid this somewhat (uh-oh)
>munchkinous effect. I like the ballgown and the clown idea, though.
>Do you reckon Makeover could be used to
>give a guard a really silly hairstyle and beard?
Hm... how much hair? and beard?... hm... *GM grin* *shaman grin*

Sascha

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| \___ __/ | | is bound to live |
|==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | through it again. |
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Message no. 18
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 21:10:51 +0100 (BST)
|The shaman in our team used to use this spell to make his security armour look like heavy
biker clothes, though
|now the GM has reconsidered and restricted the use of the spell so as to avoid this
somewhat (uh-oh)
|munchkinous effect. I like the ballgown and the clown idea, though. Do you reckon
Makeover could be used to
|give a guard a really silly hairstyle and beard?

Why not?
Shopcking pink mohican anyone?
Red nose and vampire fangs?
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Message no. 19
From: dhinkley@***.org
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 15:49:22 -0700 (PDT)
>At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>>True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.
>>
>>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>>here......

Consider the confusion caused by changing some of the uniforms of a
security response team to typical shadowrunning clothing (what ever that is) in
the middle of a firefight....

David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
Message no. 20
From: PDL@****.dacom.co.kr
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 96 09:05:32 PDT
---------------Original Message---------------
Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's protective
value [...]". But... hm... does a knight's armor with wool padding inside have
the same armor value as a guard's armor? Maybe... but it's much more
encumbrancing :-)

Sascha

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Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
good way to get armor past security.

Patrick
Message no. 21
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 21:48:26 -0400 (EDT)
At 07:39 PM 5/21/96 +0200, you wrote:
>At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:

>>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>>here......

>Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's
>protective value [...]".

I might allow it, depending on my mood, but if I did, it'd be the TOUGHEST
evening gown ever created. ;-)


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- Jeff Dahmer
Message no. 22
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 21:52:34 -0400 (EDT)
At 02:01 PM 5/21/96 EDT, you wrote:

>Thats the toughest evening gown in high fashion. Think about this, you
>can turn your hard armour into a tres chic suit. Looks and feels like the
>real thing, and can bounce assualt rifle rounds.

Yeah, but does it have a zipper on it? *tee hee*

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Message no. 23
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:22:09 PDT
> At 07:39 PM 5/21/96 +0200, you wrote:
> >At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>
> >>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> >>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
> >>here......
>
> >Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's
> >protective value [...]".
>
> I might allow it, depending on my mood, but if I did, it'd be the TOUGHEST
> evening gown ever created. ;-)
>
>

How about turnig the gaurd's security armor into a tasteful throw rug? Funny,
but useful!

> --
> "I remember my first sexual encounter because I kept the recipe."
> - Jeff Dahmer
>

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Message no. 24
From: Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 22:17:00 -0500
>At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>>True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.
>>
>>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>>here......

One word: Straitjacket.

-Thomas Deeny
Cartoonist At Large

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information."
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Message no. 25
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 23:43:56 -0400 (EDT)
At 07:22 PM 5/21/96 PDT, you wrote:

>How about turning the guard's security armor into a tasteful throw rug?
>Funny, but useful!

How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?

Mike "Aztecnology ballistic throw rugs now on sale here!" Weber

--
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Message no. 26
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:19:52 +0100
Ubiquitous said on 6:31/21 May 96...

> I wasn't talking about grounding the spell, I was talking about using it to
> mess up spell locks, ie., "I'm going to change his broach-shaped spell lock
> into a ring-shaped one it falls off of him."

I don't think Fashion would work on that. Other Manipulation spells might,
and in that case, I'd say, yeah, the lock stops working. If you change a
focus, like breaking it in two or welding something onto it or whatever,
it loses its enchantment. So magically altering a brooch into a ring
would, IMHO, remove all magical properties.

If your spell is only Sustained, and not Permanent, I think I'd let it
lose its magical powers only for as long as you sustain the spell.

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Message no. 27
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:19:52 +0100
Faux Pas said on 22:17/21 May 96...

> >>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> >>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
> >>here......
>
> One word: Straitjacket.

I thought of that too, but I didn't say it, for this reason: would the
straitjacket be closed or open? My guess is open, since the guard won't
have his arms folded around his body when you cast the spell...

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Message no. 28
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:19:52 +0100
A Halliwell said on 11:46/21 May 96...

> Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
> here......

It'd be an evening gown with 5/3 armor, though... How about making his
trousers be joined at the knees? :)

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Message no. 29
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:19:53 +0100
Ubiquitous said on 23:43/21 May 96...

> How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?

Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us who
are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees of
course, right?)

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Message no. 30
From: "Sedah Drol" <CCRODRIG@****.indstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 5:42:55 EST
>Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us
>who
>are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
>expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees
>of
>course, right?)

A throw rug is one of those small cloth carpets, primarilly used to add
a little bit of "life" to the floor. Some people will even hang them on
a wall for decoration.
---Sedah Drol
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Message no. 31
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:47:45 +0100 (BST)
|
|
|>At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
|>>True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.
|>>
|>>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
|>>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
|>>here......
|
|One word: Straitjacket.

You are EVIL! <snigger>
I like it, but you've still got to tie his arms behind his back.
Magic fingers anyone?
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Message no. 32
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:02:30 +0100 (BST)
|
|Ubiquitous said on 23:43/21 May 96...
|
|> How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?
|
|Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us who
|are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
|expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees of
|course, right?)

Nothing special. Just a Rug that you can throw.... :)

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Message no. 33
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 18:44:32 +0200
At 18:05 Uhr 22.05.96, PDL@****.dacom.co.kr (Patrick) wrote:
[Rules on Fashion-Spell]
>Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
>armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
>good way to get armor past security.
I thought the rules would prohibit that. If you have still the
armor values, something must be there to protect you. Bullets/
Swords don't tend to bounce off air...
So IMmagically_trainedO the armor would still have to show...

Hm... just from the back of my head: Has someone yet designed a
'Fashion Gun' spell to let your SMG look like a hold-out? :-/
hm...

Sascha

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Message no. 34
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:29:20 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 21 May 1996, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:

> Yup. All kinds of amusing things you can do with these two spells that
> almost nobody ever takes.

Yeah, like using Fashion to alter the cut and style of your light
security armor into, say, a fashionable three-piece suit. Doesn't change
the clothes' protective value, but makes it hard to notice that it's
actually armor at all.

Marc
Message no. 35
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:57:09 -0400 (EDT)
At 15:49 5/21/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>At 12:46 Uhr 21.05.96, A Halliwell wrote:
>>>True. Lets forget about spell locks and think up more..., amusing uses.
>>>
>>>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>>>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>>>here......
>
> Consider the confusion caused by changing some of the uniforms of a
>security response team to typical shadowrunning clothing (what ever that
is) in
>the middle of a firefight....
>
> David Hinkley

Typical shadowrunning outfits?If you teams are dressed like Barren freaks
and their doing a corp job someone needs a reality pill. Ever see a security
guard double clutch when the guy next to him wearing the same outfit he is
opens fire on him? If your team does its job right they can get armor that
looks like the sec guards. Makes corp pen. easier and smarter.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 36
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:57:15 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:19 5/22/96 +0100, you wrote:
>A Halliwell said on 11:46/21 May 96...
>
>> Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
>> armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
>> here......
>
>It'd be an evening gown with 5/3 armor, though... How about making his
>trousers be joined at the knees? :)
>
>--
>Gurth@******.nl

Tying his shoelaces together? Or removing them compeletly. Even better.
Changing his shoes to stiletto heels. :) Lets see a guy try walking in
those. I know I sure couldn't.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 37
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:57:18 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:19 5/22/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Ubiquitous said on 23:43/21 May 96...
>
>> How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?
>
>Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us who
>are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
>expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees of
>course, right?)
>
>--
>Gurth@******.nl

Its pretty straight forward. Its a small rug of any shape. You can litterly
throw it into a room. IE: Throw rug.

Sasquatch

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Message no. 38
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:03:44 +0200
At 18:05 Uhr 22.05.96, PDL@****.dacom.co.kr (Patrick) wrote:
[Rules on Fashion-Spell]
>Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
>armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
>good way to get armor past security.
I thought the rules would prohibit that. If you have still the
armor values, something must be there to protect you. Bullets/
Swords don't tend to bounce off air...
So IMmagically_trainedO the armor would still have to show...

Hm... just from the back of my head: Has someone yet designed a
'Fashion Gun' spell to let your SMG look like a hold-out? :-/
hm...

Sascha

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Message no. 39
From: Ken <kwhorner@*******.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 22 May 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Faux Pas said on 22:17/21 May 96...
>
> > >>Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> > >>armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly
ideas
> > >>here......
> >
> > One word: Straitjacket.
>
> I thought of that too, but I didn't say it, for this reason: would the
> straitjacket be closed or open? My guess is open, since the guard won't
> have his arms folded around his body when you cast the spell...
>
Still, those long sleeves don't make things any easier....

Nutcracker
Message no. 40
From: Ken <kwhorner@*******.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 11:47:57 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 22 May 1996, Gurth wrote:

> A Halliwell said on 11:46/21 May 96...
>
> > Being attacked by a Sec Guard. Wiggle your fingers at him and turn his
> > armour into an evening gown...... Ooooo I think I'm getting some silly ideas
> > here......
>
> It'd be an evening gown with 5/3 armor, though... How about making his
> trousers be joined at the knees? :)
>
Make his boots into 6 inch stillettos?

Nutcracker
Message no. 41
From: "Dr. Bolthy von Schotz" <bolthy@**.COM>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:40:21 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 22 May 1996 PDL@****.dacom.co.kr wrote:

>
> ---------------Original Message---------------
> Sorry, but: Grimoire, p. 131: "The spell cannot change the clothing's protective
value [...]". But... hm... does a knight's armor with wool padding inside have
> the same armor value as a guard's armor? Maybe... but it's much more
> encumbrancing :-)
>
> Sascha
>
> ----------End of Original Message----------
> Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
> armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
> good way to get armor past security.
>

No. It will look like an armor plated evening gown. All Fashion does is
modifiy the cut of the lapels and the color, etc. =)


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Message no. 42
From: tglinka@*****.ASU.EDU
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:56:05 -0700 (MST)
Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hotpants? Our GM stepped
in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.


T. Glinka
Message no. 43
From: Paul_Haggerty@*****.Edu (Paul Haggerty)
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:31:17 -0500
>Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
>humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject?

I just happen to have the Grimmything in front of me. Yes, Fashion
does require a voluntary target.


--
Paul Haggerty
Programmer/Analyst - Planetary Geology Group
Brown University

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Message no. 44
From: Hairy Smurf <ab130f92@*******.adelphi.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:49:31 -0400 (EDT)
At 12:56 5/22/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
>humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
>have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
>in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
>pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hotpants? Our GM stepped
>in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.
>
>
>T. Glinka
>

Hotpants over dermal deposits?
"Looks like a pair of rhinos playing under a blanket."

Sasquatch

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Message no. 45
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:13:39 PDT
> Ubiquitous said on 23:43/21 May 96...
>
> > How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?
>
> Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us who
> are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
> expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees of
> course, right?)
>

It's a small rug that can be easily picked up. Try engaging in combat
with a heavy blanket around your shoulders.

Hey, another idea: Change it into a cigar-shaped tube around the
guard(with small hole for him/her to breathe through, of course. Gotta
remeber that murder charge. Soner or later, you're gonna get caught.)


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Message no. 46
From: "Meredith L. Patterson" <ST5F2@******.UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:26:03 -0500 (CDT)
Someone commented that Fashion and Makeover require voluntary targets.

A silly question: Isn't the target of Fashion the *clothes*, technically
speaking? After all, they're all that get changed. Clothes, in my experience,
have a bit of difficulty voicing either their consent or refusal. ;)

--Dryad
Message no. 47
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:13:12 PDT
>
> Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
> humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
> have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
> in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
> pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hotpants? Our GM stepped
> in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.
>
>
> T. Glinka

Yes it does. So? Reverse-engeneer(sp) the spell and take that out.

[(F/2)+2]M
Not voluntary:
[(F/2)+2]S
Limted range:
[(f/2)+2]M
Very Restricted Target(Security Armor):
[(F/2)+2]L

So now we have a new Spell:
Reshape Security Armor

This spell instantly changes security armor, transforming to the
caster's whishes. It only works on security armor. Usually used to,
say, tie up that guard with VERY good bonds. Can also change the color
of the armor: Make it Neon Yellow so you can find them again. Cannot
change the Armor ratings, merely more the junk around.
Type:Physical Range:Limited Target:4
Duration:Permanent(10 turns) Drain:[(F/2)+2]L

Well? Comments? Insults? Carps? Money? Spackle?


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Message no. 48
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:24:54 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:19 AM 5/22/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Ubiquitous said on 23:43/21 May 96...

>> How much do ballistic throw rugs sell for in 2050?
>
>Now could someone please explain what a "throw rug" is for those of us who
>are not 100% at home in English/American furniture names (at least I
>expect it's something you decorate your house with... I'm 180 degrees of
>course, right?)

It's a type of rug that's small enough to be picked up put whereever one wishes.

--
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- Jeff Dahmer
Message no. 49
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:29:32 -0400 (EDT)
At 12:56 PM 5/22/96 -0700, you wrote:

>Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
>humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
>have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
>in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
>pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hot pants? Our GM stepped
>in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.

It is, but I'm presuming someone out there's bound to create a non-voluntary
version one of these days...

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Message no. 50
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:31:23 -0400 (EDT)
At 03:13 PM 5/22/96 PDT, you wrote:

>Hey, another idea: Change it into a cigar-shaped tube around the
>guard(with small hole for him/her to breathe through, of course. Gotta
>remeber that murder charge. Soner or later, you're gonna get caught.)

Make it yellow, and you got yourself a walking banana!

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Message no. 51
From: Ken <kwhorner@*******.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 21:13:39 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 22 May 1996, Meredith L. Patterson wrote:

> Someone commented that Fashion and Makeover require voluntary targets.
>
> A silly question: Isn't the target of Fashion the *clothes*, technically
> speaking? After all, they're all that get changed. Clothes, in my experience,
> have a bit of difficulty voicing either their consent or refusal. ;)
>
Oooooooh! Existential question, what ever will we do?

Nutcracker
Message no. 52
From: "Sedah Drol" <CCRODRIG@****.indstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 01:18:26 EST
> At 18:05 Uhr 22.05.96, PDL@****.dacom.co.kr (Patrick) wrote:
> [Rules on Fashion-Spell]
> >Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
> >armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
> >good way to get armor past security.
> I thought the rules would prohibit that. If you have still the
> armor values, something must be there to protect you. Bullets/
> Swords don't tend to bounce off air...
> So IMmagically_trainedO the armor would still have to show...

Depends, is fashion a manimulation spell or an illusion spell?
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Message no. 53
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:24:05 +0100 (BST)
|> Consider the confusion caused by changing some of the uniforms of a
|>security response team to typical shadowrunning clothing (what ever that
|>is) in the middle of a firefight....
|>
|> David Hinkley
|
|Typical shadowrunning outfits?If you teams are dressed like Barren freaks
|and their doing a corp job someone needs a reality pill. Ever see a security
|guard double clutch when the guy next to him wearing the same outfit he is
|opens fire on him? If your team does its job right they can get armor that
|looks like the sec guards. Makes corp pen. easier and smarter.

OK then. Instead of turning the guards uniform into shadowrunner gear, turn
it into a rival corp's uniform......
That should cause a bit of confusion.
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Message no. 54
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:43:39 +0100 (BST)
|
|
|Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
|humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
|have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
|in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
|pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hotpants? Our GM stepped
|in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.

Welllll, a few weeks of research or a quest to the metaplanes, and it should
be quite easy to come up with a non-volutary version......
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Message no. 55
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:54:15 +0100 (BST)
|
|>
|> Not to put a damper on this whole thread (which I have found immensely
|> humorous), but doesn't Fashion require a voluntary subject? I don't
|> have the Grimmything in front of me to check it. This came up
|> in our campaign because we had a practical joker for a mage. He liked to
|> pick on our Troll sammy. Can you say Troll in hotpants? Our GM stepped
|> in to keep the Troll from smashing the mage into little tiny pieces.
|>
|>
|> T. Glinka
|
|Yes it does. So? Reverse-engeneer(sp) the spell and take that out.
|
|[(F/2)+2]M
|Not voluntary:
|[(F/2)+2]S
|Limted range:
|[(f/2)+2]M
|Very Restricted Target(Security Armor):
|[(F/2)+2]L

|So now we have a new Spell:
|Reshape Security Armor
|
| This spell instantly changes security armor, transforming to the
|caster's whishes. It only works on security armor. Usually used to,
|say, tie up that guard with VERY good bonds. Can also change the color
|of the armor: Make it Neon Yellow so you can find them again. Cannot
|change the Armor ratings, merely more the junk around.
|Type:Physical Range:Limited Target:4
|Duration:Permanent(10 turns) Drain:[(F/2)+2]L

Yep. BUT!!!!
If you changed it to sustained instead of permanent, the drain would fall
even more. You could probably make it reshape armour then, making it more
versatile....
(It really isn't nessecary for it to be permanent in this situation...)

|Well? Comments? Insults? Carps? Money? Spackle?
|
|
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Message no. 56
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 11:10:21 +0100 (BST)
|
|> At 18:05 Uhr 22.05.96, PDL@****.dacom.co.kr (Patrick) wrote:
|> [Rules on Fashion-Spell]
|> >Does this mean if you use fashion or makeover on heavy security
|> >armor it will look like an evening gown? If so sounds like a
|> >good way to get armor past security.
|> I thought the rules would prohibit that. If you have still the
|> armor values, something must be there to protect you. Bullets/
|> Swords don't tend to bounce off air...
|> So IMmagically_trainedO the armor would still have to show...
|
|Depends, is fashion a manimulation spell or an illusion spell?

Manipulation....
Definately.
(For one thing, it's permanent)
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Message no. 57
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:30:34 +0100
Benjamin said on 16:13/22 May 96...

> [(F/2)+2]M
> Not voluntary:
> [(F/2)+2]S
> Limted range:
> [(f/2)+2]M
> Very Restricted Target(Security Armor):
> [(F/2)+2]L

I'd make it Restricted Target: Security Armor. Very Restricted Target
would, IMHO, be "Light Sec Armor," "Medium Sec Armor," etc. which
would
make the Drain [(F/2)+1]M.

Apart from that, go with it :)

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Message no. 58
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:30:34 +0100
Hairy Smurf said on 13:57/22 May 96...

> > Consider the confusion caused by changing some of the uniforms of a
> >security response team to typical shadowrunning clothing (what ever that
> >is) in the middle of a firefight....
>
> Typical shadowrunning outfits?If you teams are dressed like Barren freaks
> and their doing a corp job someone needs a reality pill. Ever see a security
> guard double clutch when the guy next to him wearing the same outfit he is
> opens fire on him? If your team does its job right they can get armor that
> looks like the sec guards. Makes corp pen. easier and smarter.

Maybe you'd do better to change the clothes of one group of security
personnel to resemble those of a strike team from an opposing corporation,
preferably one that the guards would know is planning to do something
against the facility they're protecting.

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Message no. 59
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 12:30:34 +0100
Sascha Pabst said on 18:44/22 May 96...

> Hm... just from the back of my head: Has someone yet designed a
> 'Fashion Gun' spell to let your SMG look like a hold-out? :-/
> hm...

I don't think so,. although you could make it resemble a vegetable with
that one spell from the NAGEE :)

Anyway, how about this one:

CHANGE WEAPON SHAPE (ILLUSION)
When this spell is cast, the target weapon (which must be touched by the
caster) appears to be transformed into a different weapon. In actuality,
it stays the same, however. Every 2 successes allow the caster to change
the weapon's Concealability by 1 point. For example, if Change Weapon
Shape is cast on an Ares Predator, and 4 successes are rolled, its
Concealability could be set anywhere from 2 through 6, as the caster
desires.
The caster must then select another weapon (which has a Concealability
equal to the one given to the target weapon) like which he wants the
target to look. For example, the Predator could look like a Fichetti
Security 500a (Conceal. 6) but not a Fichetti 500 (Conceal 7).
Note that the actual game stats of the weapon do not change.

Type: Physical Range: Touch Target: Object Resistance (8+)
Duration: Sustained Drain: [(F/2)+1]M

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Message no. 60
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:23:57 +0200
At 8:18 Uhr 23.05.96, Sedah Drol wrote:
>> So IMmagically_trainedO the armor would still have to show...

>Depends, is fashion a manimulation spell or an illusion spell?

Transformation Manipulation (Grimy p. 131) (as I said,
magically_trained ... :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 61
From: Valerie A Olson <volson@********.ca>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 13:51:36 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 23 May 1996, Gurth wrote:

> Sascha Pabst said on 18:44/22 May 96...
>
< Snip all the humorous stuff>

Okay, my turn to toss a potential spanner in the works, now let me begin
by saying I don't play mages, so I'm not the worlds best authority on magic
:-) But the way my Gm plays it is that the spell can change " the cut,
style or size " of the garment in question. Which means, that a pair of
pants can only be changed into another pair of pants, NOT into a skirt etc.
Similarly with armour, the spell was able to change my heavy sec. armour
into what looks like light sec. armour, so I can throw an over-sized
trench coat over it and not stand out like dogs balls. But he wouldn't
let us change the armour into say a tux, or bikers leathers, or any thing
other than sec. armour, he might let us change milspec. into sec. armour
but as we can't seem to lay our hands on any milspec armour, we haven't
been able to try him out on that :-D

So, visions of guards armour turned into neglige's are banished, how ever
changing your armour to look like the corps is still cool, we've done it.

Cheers,
The ROO-MAN,
Via his wife.
Message no. 62
From: "Paolo Falco" <Falco@****.it>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:57:58 +0000
On 22 May 96, Meredith L. Patterson wrote:

> Someone commented that Fashion and Makeover require voluntary
> targets.
> A silly question: Isn't the target of Fashion the *clothes*,
> technically speaking? After all, they're all that get changed.
> Clothes, in my experience, have a bit of difficulty voicing
> either their consent or refusal. ;)
>
> --Dryad

If I were a green spandex trouser with yellow clowns on me, I'd
BE CONSENTIENT to be changed, into anything!!! :) Good point,
though... Does the spell target the clothes or the person? Are
the clothes present in astral space? What does a green spandex
trouser with yellow clowns look like in astral space? Any better
than it does in reality?

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Message no. 63
From: "Paolo Falco" <Falco@****.it>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 18:58:12 +0000
On 23 May 96, Gurth wrote:

> Anyway, how about this one:
>
> CHANGE WEAPON SHAPE (ILLUSION)
> [snipple]

What about weapons with Conc (-)? (aka 0) I could make my
Panther look like a howitzer! Or my MMG look like a tac-nuke
missile. :) I would add that the shape must remain more or less
the same...

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Message no. 64
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 21:58:17 -0400 (EDT)
At 01:51 PM 5/23/96 -0400, you wrote:

>So, visions of guards armour turned into neglige's are banished, how ever
>changing your armour to look like the corps is still cool, we've done it.

Hardly, Roo my boy!
Anyone want to research a Armor To Negligee spell?

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Message no. 65
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 22:02:35 -0400 (EDT)
At 06:57 PM 5/23/96 +0000, you wrote:
>On 22 May 96, Meredith L. Patterson wrote:

>> Someone commented that Fashion and Makeover require voluntary
>> targets.

>> A silly question: Isn't the target of Fashion the *clothes*,
>> technically speaking? After all, they're all that get changed.
>> Clothes, in my experience, have a bit of difficulty voicing
>> either their consent or refusal. ;)

>Does the spell target the clothes or the person? Are
>the clothes present in astral space? What does a green spandex
>trouser with yellow clowns look like in astral space? Any better
>than it does in reality?

My guess would be that the clothes are within the target's aura, and
thusly affected by the willingness of whoever is wearing them.

It's another question completely if they're hanging in a closet.

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Message no. 66
From: Benjamin <benjamin@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 19:56:51 PDT
> Benjamin said on 16:13/22 May 96...
>
> > [(F/2)+2]M
> > Not voluntary:
> > [(F/2)+2]S
> > Limted range:
> > [(f/2)+2]M
> > Very Restricted Target(Security Armor):
> > [(F/2)+2]L
>
> I'd make it Restricted Target: Security Armor. Very Restricted Target
> would, IMHO, be "Light Sec Armor," "Medium Sec Armor," etc. which
would
> make the Drain [(F/2)+1]M.
>
> Apart from that, go with it :)
>

Umm, Fashion has a general target of All Clothing, so, BMR, Restricted
would be Armor (Or Dresses, or Suits, etc.), and Very Restricted would
be Security armor. Get me? I would have given it Touch Required, too,
but I decided the mage might want to be able to, say, hide behind the
<insert something big and bulletproof here>. (Such as the troll.)


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Message no. 67
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:46:22 +0100
Ubiquitous said on 21:58/23 May 96...

> >So, visions of guards armour turned into neglige's are banished, how ever
> >changing your armour to look like the corps is still cool, we've done it.
>
> Hardly, Roo my boy!
> Anyone want to research a Armor To Negligee spell?

Only now I think if the Nudity spell (or whatever it was called) that a
player of mine designed. A simple Illusion spell that makes the target
think (s)he's completely naked... :)

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Message no. 68
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:46:22 +0100
Paolo Falco said on 18:57/23 May 96...

> If I were a green spandex trouser with yellow clowns on me, I'd
> BE CONSENTIENT to be changed, into anything!!! :) Good point,
> though... Does the spell target the clothes or the person?

Maybe it can be explained by saying that inanimate objects that are
closely associated with a person, default to the person for resistance to
such spells... It isn't a satisfactory answer, really, but it's the best I
can come up with right now :)

> Are the clothes present in astral space? What does a green spandex
> trouser with yellow clowns look like in astral space? Any better than
> it does in reality?

No, not, and no, in that order (although I think the middle one works
better in Dutch :)

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Message no. 69
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:20:46 +0100 (BST)
|Paolo Falco said on 18:57/23 May 96...
|> Are the clothes present in astral space?

Nope. :)

|> What does a green spandex
|> trouser with yellow clowns look like in astral space?

It probably has a palpable air of embarrasment associated with it....

|>Any better than it does in reality?

Nuch worse. I'd imagine it would be close to background count material.
(Emotion wise....)
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Message no. 70
From: "Andre' Selmer" <031ANDRE@******.wits.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:36:42 GMT + 2:00
@ |Paolo Falco said on 18:57/23 May 96...
@ |> Are the clothes present in astral space?
@
@ Nope. :)
@
@ |> What does a green spandex
@ |> trouser with yellow clowns look like in astral space?
@
@ It probably has a palpable air of embarrasment associated with it....
@
@ |>Any better than it does in reality?
@
@ Nuch worse. I'd imagine it would be close to background count material.
@ (Emotion wise....)

If a male troll/orc/dwarf wares those, I'll have to insist on
least a background count of 1. Not to mention I'd have all the
manifest watchers possible sitting around discussing contempory trends
in fashion.;) (if I where a mage that is!;)

Andre'

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Message no. 71
From: "Sascha Pabst" <Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 12:51:59 +0200
At 13:30 Uhr 23.05.96, Gurth wrote:
>CHANGE WEAPON SHAPE (ILLUSION)
[snip]

Thanx, now where is my Karma...
(Just to prove your theorie about people not answering when
agreeing is not that right :-)

Sascha

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Message no. 72
From: "Paolo Falco" <Falco@****.it>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 18:30:05 +0000
On 24 May 96, Gurth wrote:

> Only now I think if the Nudity spell (or whatever it was
> called) that a player of mine designed. A simple Illusion spell
> that makes the target think (s)he's completely naked... :)

"Mom, the king is naked!" :)

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Message no. 73
From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 18:05:46 -0400 (EDT)
At 11:46 AM 5/24/96 +0100, you wrote:

>Only now I think if the Nudity spell (or whatever it was called) that a
>player of mine designed. A simple Illusion spell that makes the target
>think (s)he's completely naked... :)

You mean the Nude Bomb [tm] spell?

Type: Physical
Target: B[R]
Duration: Permanent (15 turns)
Drain: (F/2 + 1)D

(Minor physical change (makes clothes transparent to help drain), physical
spell, area affect, and Permanent)

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Message no. 74
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:59:15 +0100
Benjamin said on 19:56/23 May 96...

> > I'd make it Restricted Target: Security Armor. Very Restricted Target
> > would, IMHO, be "Light Sec Armor," "Medium Sec Armor," etc.
which would
> > make the Drain [(F/2)+1]M.
> >
> Umm, Fashion has a general target of All Clothing, so, BMR, Restricted
> would be Armor (Or Dresses, or Suits, etc.), and Very Restricted would
> be Security armor. Get me?

Sure. I'm only saying how I would have designed this spell.

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Message no. 75
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Amusing things to do with Fashion and Makeover
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:05:30 +0100
Ubiquitous said on 18:05/24 May 96...

> You mean the Nude Bomb [tm] spell?

Actually I meant Strip, an Illusion spell that makes you think you don't
have any clothes on, not actually change your clothes to being
transparent.

Type: Mana
Range: LOS
Target: Intelligence (R)
Duration: Sustained
Drain: [(F/2)+1]M

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