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From:	"bahwi@**********.com" <bahwi@**********.COM>
Subject:	Anything like a PAN in ShadowRun?
Date:	Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:23:15 +0000

Message no. 1 Is there any thing like a PAN in ShadowRun or should I just make it myself? A
PAN is like a LAN or WAN, but more limited, Personal Area Network. Go to the
place below if you need to know more. Basically it transfers information
through the human body, instead of wires and things. Currently, it's like a
2,400 baud modem, with, theoretically, the potential to go up to 400,000 baud.
Anyone see anything like this, should I implement it or are there reasons not
to? Thanks.

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/user/pan/pan.html

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From:	NightLife <habenir@*****.UC.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Anything like a PAN in ShadowRun?
Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:17:08 -0500

Message no. 2 At 09:23 PM 3/29/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Is there any thing like a PAN in ShadowRun or should I just make it myself? A
>PAN is like a LAN or WAN, but more limited, Personal Area Network. Go to the
>place below if you need to know more. Basically it transfers information
>through the human body, instead of wires and things. Currently, it's like a
>2,400 baud modem, with, theoretically, the potential to go up to 400,000
baud.
>Anyone see anything like this, should I implement it or are there reasons not
>to? Thanks.
>

No but I checked it out and the idea is truly freaking and mind boggling.
I"m still having trouble digesting what I just read. But if we get this
technology off the ground soon everything in all of the cybergenre games
are going to become obsolete overnight. Who needs a datjack when you can
transmit info through your skin.
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many shades. Some are harsh and infinitely painful to look upon; others can
be
as peaceful and beautiful as the setting sun. I am an artist, and many colors
lie on upon my palette. Let me paint him a rainbow, and give you the means to
decide where it ends."

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From:	Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject:	Re: Anything like a PAN in ShadowRun?
Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:31:46 +1000

Message no. 3 Nightlife writes:
>
>No but I checked it out and the idea is truly freaking and mind boggling.
>I"m still having trouble digesting what I just read. But if we get this
>technology off the ground soon everything in all of the cybergenre games
>are going to become obsolete overnight. Who needs a datjack when you can
>transmit info through your skin.

a) PANs have a fairly high error rate, so that you need a lot of error
checking.
b) You'll want a machine/brain interface of some sort, to interpret neural
signals into digital signals, and vice-versa. This still needs to be in your
brain, and a datajack to plug directly into would be easier.

Yeah, it's a really neat sounding technology, but it's an iffy concept at
best... many of the proposed uses have alternatives which are also
effective.

--
.sig deleted to conserve electrons robert.watkins@******.com

From:	Geoff Skellams <geoff.skellams@*********.COM.AU>
Subject:	Re: Anything like a PAN in ShadowRun?
Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:38:14 +1000

Message no. 4 On Shadowrun Discussion, NightLife[SMTP:habenir@*****.UC.EDU] wrote:
> No but I checked it out and the idea is truly freaking and mind
boggling.
> I"m still having trouble digesting what I just read. But if we get
this
> technology off the ground soon everything in all of the cybergenre
games
> are going to become obsolete overnight. Who needs a datjack when you
can
> transmit info through your skin.

I had a look at it as well, but I don't think it is going to
kill over the cyber genre. The amount of data throughput you will need
for a VR Matrix link will be much higher than the 400kbps quoted as
being the theoretical upper limit for PAN data transfer.
It does however make information passing very interesting.
People could brush up against one another at a bar or on a bus for a
second or two and a lot of information could be passed. Imagine getting
a job from your Johnson that way.
It might make for an interesting plot hook...

cheers
Geoff
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Geoff Skellams R&D - Tower Software
Email Address: geoff.skellams@*********.com.au
Homepage: http://www.towersoft.com.au/staff/geoff/
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From:	Zixx <t_berghoff@*********.NETSURF.DE>
Subject:	Re: Anything like a PAN in ShadowRun?
Date:	Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:51:32 +0000

Message no. 5 On 31 Mar 98 at 16:38, Geoff Skellams wrote:

[PAN's]
> I had a look at it as well, but I don't think it is going to
> kill over the cyber genre. The amount of data throughput you will need
> for a VR Matrix link will be much higher than the 400kbps quoted as
> being the theoretical upper limit for PAN data transfer.

Oh well, remember the time people said that 2400baud was the physical
maximum for modems?

> It does however make information passing very interesting.
> People could brush up against one another at a bar or on a bus for a
> second or two and a lot of information could be passed. Imagine getting
> a job from your Johnson that way.

And it makes you paranoid as hell. Who says the two over there didn't just
pass a contract. Maybe they're no wageslaves, but mages...

Oh, and data transmitted to the wrong person...<egmg>

Tobias Berghoff a.k.a Zixx
ICQ: 9293066

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