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Message no. 1
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 22:33:54 -0300
<Climbs up from 30m wide crater left by carps>

Okay, I writing this to apologize for sending that attachment
to the list. IIRC, I said in the original msg offering the file the
anyone who wanted the hkit should mail me privately. Mr. NightRain,
mailed to the list asking for it, and I, not having paid attention to
the msg header, just replied to him and sent the file. I know I made a
mistake and probaly deserved those .45 carp rounds, so this time I'm
sendin a URL where you can find it, a direct link to the file.

It is here:

http://www.br.homeshopping.com.br/~ubiratan/hkit13.zip

If you have trouble getting the file from this URL, mail me PRIVATELY,
and I repeat, PRIVATELY, and I'll send it. I would like feedback on
the text if possible.


Sincerely
Ubiratan P. Alberton
Message no. 2
From: Katt Freyson <katt@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 23:03:54 -0400
Sir,
I am writing this in the public base because I believe it should be
read by all, if I have inadvertently broken list rules, I apologize.

You have violated a major rule here by sending that file. By being
negligent you made an error. However, this is not to belittle you or take
you to task, others have been quite vocal already.

No, this is to congratulate you. You have realized that you made an
error and have had the grace to apologize and accept the critiscm for you
act. I wish that those who responded to you had had that grace.

Many of the responses to your post I personally found MUCH more
irritating than yours. Especially that multi-twac post. I thought this
mailing list had Net security to handle events such as your post, but
apparently that is not what they are here for.

Thank you for having the grace to apologize and explain.

-M
Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:43:37 +0100
Katt Freyson said on 23:03/27 May 98,...

> Many of the responses to your post I personally found MUCH more
> irritating than yours. Especially that multi-twac post. I thought this
> mailing list had Net security to handle events such as your post, but
> apparently that is not what they are here for.

It _is_ what GridSec is here for, but recently people seem to want to take
the right into their own hands again... Preventing those multiple "Don't do
[whatever]! Thwap! Zot!" postings is one of the main reasons why GridSec
was formed, AFAIK, but (un?)fortunately we can't really do anything against
people who decide to post those anyway, except for ask that they won't.

So once again, fellow listmembers, let GridSec handle these things. We _do_
send mail to people who post these things, we just don't do it via the list --
which means you don't get to see it if you're not directly involved, but trust
me when I say we can handle these things.

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Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:18:42 +0100
And verily, did Katt Freyson hastily scribble thusly...
| Many of the responses to your post I personally found MUCH more
|irritating than yours. Especially that multi-twac post. I thought this
|mailing list had Net security to handle events such as your post, but
|apparently that is not what they are here for.

It does. But som of us have been on the list too long, and old habits die
hard. (gridsec is still a little baby, only about 3 months old...)

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|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
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Message no. 5
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:10:28 +0200
On 28 May 98, at 11:43, Gurth wrote:
[snip]
> So once again, fellow listmembers, let GridSec handle these things. We
> _do_ send mail to people who post these things, we just don't do it via
> the list -- which means you don't get to see it if you're not directly
> involved, but trust me when I say we can handle these things.

This fellow listmember still wonders if Listserv could automagically remove all
attachments (OK, I know, Spike would be left without anybody tgo yell at... but I
am sure he'll find another hobby :-). I mean - how complicated can it turn out to
remove rtf/html mime settings? Anyone with knowledge of our beloved mailserver
proggy knows anything about it?


Sascha
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Message no. 6
From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:47:05 -0400
Sascha Pabst wrote:
>This fellow listmember still wonders if Listserv could automagically remove
>all
>attachments (OK, I know, Spike would be left without anybody tgo yell at...
>but I
>am sure he'll find another hobby :-). I mean - how complicated can it turn
>out to
>remove rtf/html mime settings? Anyone with knowledge of our beloved
>mailserver
>proggy knows anything about it?

Well, you could SET NOMIME, but I don't know whether that'll actually
strip the attachment, or just spew it out in ASCII...

Ask the listproc for the refcard - there's nothing to explicitly remove
attachments (of course, you could grab the source and write a patch if
you really care - then you'd just have to convince Mark to use it...)

James Ojaste
Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:09:14 +0100
And verily, did Ojaste,James [NCR] hastily scribble thusly...
|Well, you could SET NOMIME, but I don't know whether that'll actually
|strip the attachment, or just spew it out in ASCII...

NOMIME doesn't help.
Believe me, I'm still getting MIME and attachments, even though I set
NOMIME.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
| | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
|Andrew Halliwell | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
|Principal Subjects in:- |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|Comp Sci & Electronics | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |
Message no. 8
From: Jhary-a-Conel <Jhary-a-Conel@***.NET>
Subject: Re: Apologies and hkit link.
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:23:41 +0200
On 1 Jun 98, at 17:09, Spike wrote:

> And verily, did Ojaste,James [NCR] hastily scribble thusly...
> |Well, you could SET NOMIME, but I don't know whether that'll actually
> |strip the attachment, or just spew it out in ASCII...
>
> NOMIME doesn't help.
> Believe me, I'm still getting MIME and attachments, even though I set
> NOMIME.
Especially since NOMIME is default.


Sascha
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| \___ __/ | ICQ#: 7 517 216 | should die for lies. |
|==== \_/ ======|Wearing hats is just a way of life| But the truth is too |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | precious to die for." |
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