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Message no. 1
From: JonSzeto <JonSzeto@***.COM>
Subject: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:12:52 EDT
Hey fellas,

(and when I use the term "fellas" I'm using it in that gender non-specific
form of address, OK?)

Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands for,
if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up some
hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.

(Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in German
spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the "a" with the
umlaut?)

TIA,

-- Jon
Message no. 2
From: Nexx <nexx@********.NET>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:25:09 -0500
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> From: JonSzeto <JonSzeto@***.COM>

> (Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in
German
> spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the "a"
with the umlaut?)

Not according to my German-English dictionary... and its bloody huge.

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Message no. 3
From: The Vagabond <nomad74@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:20:07 PDT
>Hey fellas,
>
>(and when I use the term "fellas" I'm using it in that gender
non-specific
>form of address, OK?)

Nope... "fellas" definatly sounds more feminine... my manhood is
offended... I'm suing. :)

>
>Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands
for,
>if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up
some
>hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.

I'm Scandinavian by decent- does that count? :)
Seriously, I was under the impression that (if you are indeed
referring to Saeder-Krupp) that Saeder was a name(like Knight-Errant).
I could be wrong, and probably am...


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Message no. 4
From: Christian Bryndum <d96403@***.LYNGBYES.DK>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:07:18 +0200
At 23:12 29-04-98 EDT, you wrote:
>Hey fellas,
>
>(and when I use the term "fellas" I'm using it in that gender non-specific
>form of address, OK?)
>
>Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands for,
>if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up some
>hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.
>
>(Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in
German
>spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the "a" with
the umlaut?)
>
>TIA,
>
>-- Jon

In danish ae is pulled together to one letter. The newest Gerorge Michael
LP has the danish letter on it.Saeder means Seats in danish. In german i
think its a slang word for the corp. Saeder Krupp.

Christian
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Message no. 5
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:18:33 +0100
JonSzeto said on 23:12/29 Apr 98...

> Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands
for,
> if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up some
> hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.
>
> (Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in German
> spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the "a"
with the umlaut?)

I'm assuming this has to do with Saeder-Krupp, right? Though I'm not
German, S-K is supposed to be in SR, so I guess the question is "what does
it mean in German?" My German -> Dutch dictionary didn't list it, and my
guess is that it's nothing but a made-up word supposed to sound German,
coupled to the name of Krupp, a German heavy industry corp of the 19th and
early 20th centuries.

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Message no. 6
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:14:34 EDT
Guys, with regards to the last name Saeder, does it mean anything as a name ?

I know that there are some dictionaries which do not handle names at all, and
since this is a last name there may be difficulties in finding it.

Mike
Message no. 7
From: Airwasp <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:13:26 EDT
In a message dated 4/30/98 9:34:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!, gurth@******.NL
writes:

> > Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder"
stands
for,
>
> > if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up
> some
> > hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.
> >
> > (Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in
> German
> > spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the
"a" with the umlaut?)
>
> I'm assuming this has to do with Saeder-Krupp, right? Though I'm not
> German, S-K is supposed to be in SR, so I guess the question is "what does
> it mean in German?" My German -> Dutch dictionary didn't list it, and my
> guess is that it's nothing but a made-up word supposed to sound German,
> coupled to the name of Krupp, a German heavy industry corp of the 19th and
> early 20th centuries.
>

Guys, I believe that Saeder is a person's last name, as Saeder Kruppe was made
from a buyout of Saeder Munitions and Kruppe Manufacturing by BMW. The guy
who owned all of this let BMW go and become a second tier corp concentrating
on cars and the like, letting the remainder, the megacorp to concentrate on
other things.

So, in the end I don't believe there is going to be a translation for the name
Saeder.

Mike
Message no. 8
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 13:32:00 -0300
Christian Bryndum escreveu:
>
> At 23:12 29-04-98 EDT, you wrote:
> >Hey fellas,
> >
> >(and when I use the term "fellas" I'm using it in that gender
non-specific
> >form of address, OK?)
> >
> >Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands
for,
> >if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up some
> >hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.
> >
> >(Also, to the German/Swiss/Austrian list members --- is there a word in
> German
> >spelled "saeder", where the "ae" represents the "a"
with the umlaut?)
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >-- Jon
>
> In danish ae is pulled together to one letter. The newest Gerorge Michael
> LP has the danish letter on it.Saeder means Seats in danish. In german i
> think its a slang word for the corp. Saeder Krupp.
>


Saeder-Krupp was created with a friendly merger between two large
German multinationals, and
kept both names. It's in Corporate Shadowfiles.

Ubiratan
Message no. 9
From: Stefan <casanova@******.PASSAGEN.SE>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 22:52:54 +0000
> Can any of the Scandinavians here tell me what the word "saeder" stands =
for,
> if anything? I was doing a bit of research on the web, and I turned up s=
ome
> hits on several Danish and Swedish web sites.

"saeder" doesn't mean anything in Swedish and I am 100% sure of that
since I am a native :)

But then perhaps the "ae" is really just an english way of "ä"
(an a
with two dots over) .. That would make Säder ... which ofcause is a
total nonsense word ....

So no hits in Sweden,

/Stefan
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Message no. 10
From: JonSzeto <JonSzeto@***.COM>
Subject: Re: A question for the Scandinavian list members
Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 07:20:47 EDT
Gurth <gurth@******.NL> wrote,

> I'm assuming this has to do with Saeder-Krupp, right? Though I'm not
> German, S-K is supposed to be in SR, so I guess the question is "what does
> it mean in German?" My German -> Dutch dictionary didn't list it, and my
> guess is that it's nothing but a made-up word supposed to sound German,
> coupled to the name of Krupp, a German heavy industry corp of the 19th and
> early 20th centuries.

That's what I thought. I knew that Krupp (now Thyssen Krupp Stahl AG)
is a RL company, but I wasn't so sure about Saeder Munitions. I came
up empty on three different search engines, so I was fairly certain that
Saeder Munitions was a figment of Tom Dowd's/Nigel Findley's
imagination. But I just wanted to be sure that there wasn't anything else
I might have overlooked.

-- Jon

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